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Tunisians drive leader from power in mass uprising


AP – Demonstrators throws stones at police during clashes in Tunis, Friday, Jan. 14, 2011. Tunisia's president … By ELAINE GANLEY and BOUAZZA BEN BOUAZZA, Associated Press Elaine Ganley And Bouazza Ben Bouazza, Associated Press – 50 mins ago
TUNIS, Tunisia – After 23 years of iron-fisted rule, the president of Tunisia was driven from power Friday by violent protests over soaring unemployment and corruption. The ouster, virtually unprecedented in modern Arab history, sent an ominous message to authoritarian governments that dominate the region: Even strongmen can be overthrown by the power of the street.

Tunisians buoyant over Zine El Abidine Ben Ali's ouster immediately worried, however, about what's next: the caretaker leadership of the prime minister who took control, the role of the army in the transition, and whether Ben Ali's departure — to an as-yet unconfirmed location — will be enough to restore calm.

The upheaval followed the country's largest protests in generations and weeks of escalating unrest, sparked by one man's suicide and fueled by social media, cell phones and young people who have seen relatively little benefit from Tunisia's recent economic growth. Thousands of demonstrators from all walks of life rejected Ben Ali's promises of change and mobbed Tunis, the capital, to demand that he leave.

The government said at least 23 people have been killed in the riots, but opposition members put the death toll at more than three times that.

On Friday, police repeatedly clashed with protesters, some of whom climbed onto the entrance roof of the dreaded Interior Ministry, widely believed for years to be a place where the regime's opponents were tortured.

With clouds of tear gas and black smoke drifting over the city's whitewashed buildings, Prime Minister Mohammed Ghannouchi went on state television to announce that he was assuming power in this North African nation known mostly for its wide sandy beaches and ancient ruins.

"I take over the responsibilities temporarily of the leadership of the country at this difficult time to help restore security," Ghannouchi said in a solemn statement on state television. "I promise ... to respect the constitution, to work on reforming economic and social issues with care and to consult with all sides."

The prime minister, a longtime ally of the president, suggested that Ben Ali had willingly handed over control, but the exact circumstances were unclear.

In a string of last-ditch efforts to tamp down the unrest, Ben Ali dissolved the government and promised legislative elections within six months — a pledge that appeared to open at least the possibility of a new government. Before his removal of power was announced, he declared a state of emergency, including a curfew that was in effect Friday night and was to be lifted at 7 a.m. Saturday.

Click image to see photos of riots in Tunisia


AP/Christophe Ena
People in downtown Tunis appeared to be respecting the curfew, though there were isolated bursts of gunfire.

European tour companies moved thousands of tourists out of the country. Foreign airlines halted service to Tunisia, and said the country's airspace had been temporarily shut down.

Ben Ali's downfall sent a potentially frightening message to autocratic leaders across the Arab world, especially because he did not seem especially vulnerable until very recently.

He managed the economy of his small country of 10 million better than many other Middle Eastern nations grappling with calcified economies and booming, young populations. He turned Tunisia into a beach haven for tourists, helping create an area of stability in volatile North Africa. There was a lack of civil rights and little or no freedom of speech, but a better quality of life for many than in neighboring countries such as Algeria and Libya.

Ben Ali had won frequent praise from abroad for presiding over reforms to make the economy more competitive and attract business. Growth last year was at 3.1 percent. Unemployment, however, was officially measured at 14 percent, and was far higher — 52 percent — among the young. Despair among job-seeking young graduates was palpable.

The riots started after an educated but jobless 26-year-old committed suicide in mid-December when police confiscated the fruits and vegetables he was selling without a permit. His desperate act hit a nerve, sparked copycat suicides and focused generalized anger against the regime into a widespread, outright revolt.

The president tried vainly to hold onto power. On Thursday night he went on television to promise not to run for re-election in 2014 and slashed prices on key foods such as sugar, bread and milk.

Protesters gathered peacefully Friday in front of the Interior Ministry, but six hours after the demonstration began hundreds of police with shields and riot gear moved in. Helmeted police fired dozens of rounds of tear gas and kicked and clubbed unarmed protesters — one of whom cowered on the ground, covering his face.

An AP Television News reporter heard gunfire in the center of the Tunisian capital late Friday afternoon, in addition to the popping of tear gas pistols.

A few youths were spotted throwing stones, but most demonstrated calmly. Protesters were of all ages and from all walks of life, from students holding sit-ins in the middle of the street to doctors in white coats and black-robed lawyers waving posters.

"A month ago, we didn't believe this uprising was possible," said Beya Mannai, a geology professor at the University of Tunis. "But the people rose up."

"My first reaction is relief," said Dr. Souha Naija, a resident radiologist at Charles Nicole Hospital. "He's gone. ... I finally feel free."

"They got the message. The people don't want a dictator." However, she voiced concern for the future because, officially at least, Ben Ali vacated power only temporarily.

"It's ambiguous," she said.

Nejib Chebbi, a founder of the main legal opposition party, said the dramatic developments do not amount to a coup d'etat.

"It's an unannounced resignation," Chebbi said by telephone. To declare a permanent absence of a head of state, such as in a coup, elections would have to be held within 60 days, he said. "So they declare a temporary vacating of power."

U.S. President Barack Obama said he applauded the courage and dignity of protesting Tunisians, and urged all parties to keep calm and avoid violence.

Arabs across the region celebrated news of the Tunisian uprising on Twitter, Facebook and blogs. Thousands of tweets congratulating the Tunisian people flooded the Internet, and many people changed their profile pictures to Tunisian flags.

Egyptian activists opposed to President Hosni Mubarak's three-decade regime looked to the events in Tunisia with hope. About 50 gathered outside the Tunisian Embassy in Cairo to celebrate with singing and dancing. They chanted, "Ben Ali, tell Mubarak a plane is waiting for him, too!"

Ben Ali's whereabouts were a mystery. "We don't know where he is," opposition leader Chebbi said. "The most probable thing is that he's left the country."

Unconfirmed rumors about Ben Ali's location reached such a fevered pitch that the governments of France and Malta — just two of several countries where he was speculated to be heading — put out statements saying they have had no requests to accommodate him.

One French official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said the French government did not want Ben Ali there.

Ghannouchi is a 69-year-old economist who has been prime minister since 1999 and is among the best-known faces of Tunisia's government. He did not say anything about a coup or about the army being in charge.

Ben Ali, 74, came to power in a bloodless palace coup in 1987. He took over from a man called formally President-for-Life — Habib Bourguiba, the founder of modern-day Tunisia who set the Muslim country on a pro-Western course after independence from France in 1956.

Ben Ali removed Bourguiba from office for "incompetence," saying he had become too old, senile and sick to rule. Ben Ali promised then that his leadership would "open the horizons to a truly democratic and evolved political life."

But after a brief period of reforms, Tunisia's political evolution stopped.

Ben Ali consistently won elections with questionable tallies: In 2009, he was re-elected for a fifth five-year term with 89 percent of the vote — and that was the lowest official percentage of any of his victories. Before that vote, he had warned opponents they would face legal retaliation if they questioned the election's fairness.

U.S. diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks have called Tunisia a "police state" and described the corruption there, saying Ben Ali had lost touch with his people. Social networks like Facebook helped spread the comments to the delight of ordinary Tunisians, who have complained about the same issues for years.

Under Ben Ali, most opposition parties were illegal. Amnesty International said authorities infiltrated human rights groups and harassed dissenters. Reporters Without Borders described Ben Ali as a "press predator" who controlled the media.

There is little precedent in the Arab world for a ruler being ousted by street protests. In Sudan in 1985, a collapsing economy and other grievances sparked a popular uprising, although the government was eventually ousted by a military coup.

The closest parallel in the broader Middle East comes from Iran — which is not an Arab nation — where mass demonstrations helped topple the shah and usher in the Islamic Republic in 1979.

Tunisia's giant neighbor Algeria saw huge protests before it was shaken by a military coup in 1992, with a five-man leadership put in place after the army canceled the nation's first multiparty legislative elections, which a Muslim fundamentalist party was poised to win. The party, the Islamic Salvation Front, became a vehicle for popular dissent.

There were also massive demonstrations in Lebanon in 2005, dubbed the "Cedar Revolution," but those were directed against Syrian influence in the country and not the Lebanese government per se. The protests led to the withdrawal of Syrian forces from Lebanon and the resignation of Lebanon's pro-Syrian prime minister and fresh elections.

Al-Qaida's North African offshoot appeared to try to capitalize on the Tunisian unrest, offering its support for protesters this week. There has been no sign of Islamic extremist involvement in the rioting.
 
Do you know why wong kan seng is the home affairs minister?
Because he is related to the familee.
Security of the citizens are none of his priorities.
His sole priorities is to protect the Familee.
 
Do you know why wong kan seng is the home affairs minister?
Because he is related to the familee.
Security of the citizens are none of his priorities.
His sole priorities is to protect the Familee.

Well, u see how the article mentions that no one knows where the President Ben Ali is. That is because he had to flee the country. Someone had to do all the arrangement for him. Wong Cunt Stink is the one who has to do all the arrangement for the Lees to flee. I can already tell u the US and israel have already said yes to him if he has to escape.
 

Because he is related to the familee.
Security of the citizens are none of his priorities.
His sole priorities is to protect the Familee.

Heard on the BBC that the Prez left with with his family. If that happened in Spore would they have enough A380 & jumbos for the relatives of the famiLee:confused:
 
Males with no balls cannot compare with those with guts.
As long as voters remain corrupted, govt will bribe them with public fund
 
What drives people to overthrow the goverment? Hunger

And I m not talking about political or expression hunger but real hunger for food and to live

we dont have that problem here so that is not going to happen.
 
Males with no balls cannot compare with those with guts.

Its not about balls or guts, its about desperation.

You guys been making so much noise here and yet you take no action yourself, it just shows that you have no balls either and at the same time you are not desperate to carry out whatever complains you have.
 
Its not about balls or guts, its about desperation.

You guys been making so much noise here and yet you take no action yourself, it just shows that you have no balls either and at the same time you are not desperate to carry out whatever complains you have.


like most, i am waiting for the next guy to act on our behalf; lets say i[we] have half balls.
 
Its not about balls or guts, its about desperation.

You guys been making so much noise here and yet you take no action yourself, it just shows that you have no balls either and at the same time you are not desperate to carry out whatever complains you have.


This forum has an eclectic audience. I suspect you'll find mostly the middle in this forum, some are no longer even Sporeans.

What you will find here is an audience of "educated "intellectuals:D

The fire will be started by some desperate Sporean e,g, the taxi driver who set fire to that PAP MP.
 
Its not about balls or guts, its about desperation.

You guys been making so much noise here and yet you take no action yourself, it just shows that you have no balls either and at the same time you are not desperate to carry out whatever complains you have.

This ^^^ :)

Moreover, you need to apply for a police permit to demonstrate in Singapore. So no chance. :D
 
This ^^^ :)

Moreover, you need to apply for a police permit to demonstrate in Singapore. So no chance. :D

Spontaneous demonstrations don't require any permits. Govt can lock up 100 people but could they lock up 10,000 people or more ?

Can try flashmobbing except most of the responders will think that's another tribute to MJ. BAD...:o:o:o
 
Spontaneous demonstrations don't require any permits. Govt can lock up 100 people but could they lock up 10,000 people or more ?

Can try flashmobbing except most of the responders will think that's another tribute to MJ. BAD...:o:o:o

You want Sinkies to be spontaneous and be willing to demonstrate at the same time? :D

The only time I see Sinkies spontaneous is when they queue for the best value deals, overnight somemore.

Don't make my toes laugh leh! Get real! :rolleyes:
 
so what is we somehow manage to kick dragon li out. if like tunsia, they replace him with another go chock tong then it's still the same nonsense except several people died for nothing.

and have you talked to the students and young people these days??? they're either a bunch of far-right pappy dogs or totally ignorant.
 
Protest for f**k?

If we are not happy, just vote PAP out during the next election. What need is there to protest? Protest for the sake of protesting? TS sounds like that moron Tonychat!!

If TS feels strongly that Singaporeans should protest, maybe he/she should walk the talk and start the protest!!!

I'm not a fan of GMS and I don't agree with his political stance. But I respect him for having the guts to do what he believes in, that is to stand against the PAP in GE, instead of KPKB behind a PC!!



:)
 
so what is we somehow manage to kick dragon li out. if like tunsia, they replace him with another go chock tong then it's still the same nonsense except several people died for nothing.

and have you talked to the students and young people these days??? they're either a bunch of far-right pappy dogs or totally ignorant.



Must take what Sporeans say in public with a grain of salt

There are many PAP supporters in senior management in many companies, probably because of their PAP connections. So worker bees in Sporeans must be very careful in what they say in public, so as to avoid problems with the PAP supporters :rolleyes:

Sporeans don't seem to understand that "vigilance" is the cost of democracy. They must be aware that it's their responsibility to get rid of deadwood like LHL, GCY, LKY,..... The process is not perfect but what is :confused:
 
Heard on the BBC that the Prez left with with his family. If that happened in Spore would they have enough A380 & jumbos for the relatives of the famiLee:confused:

Donch worry, If Old Goat can indent one entire SQ 747 to fly wrinkled old gecko back from London, they will for sure be able to commandeer every single SQ, Silkair, and Tiger airlines plane to airlift their relatives and gold out of singapore.
 
Males with no balls cannot compare with those with guts.
As long as voters remain corrupted, govt will bribe them with public fund

Voters will not go thru 5 years of suffering for a few hundred dollars. They better make the bribe thousands of dollars or else no dice.
 
Voters will not go thru 5 years of suffering for a few hundred dollars. They better make the bribe thousands of dollars or else no dice.


As long as voters accept bribes, Mr. lee's familee can manipulate with govt coffer which has billions S$ to their advanage.
 
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