I'm very disgusted with former 民进党主席施明德

[jw5]

Shih did not mobilise "millions of people" in the protest against Ah Bian.
Taiwan's population is 23 million, how many millions could he have mobilised?
Mobilise 6 million and he would still be the chairman of DPP. 10 million and he would be president.

Reports are that he managed to get about 1 million people to donate to this cause. Doesn't mean that they all support him, many of them just hate Ah Bian.
The red shirt protest movement on the streets was between 100K to 300K depending on whether you believe police reports or protestors' reports.

And it was Shih who decided not to topple Ah Bian by force or with violence.
Of course, Ah Bian, being Ah Bian refused to resign.

 

[Ramseth]

I believe in neither hero idolising nor villain hating. E.g. everything SMT must be good and everything CSB must be bad. Politics and even commonsense go much deeper beyond that. However, successful politicians usually rely on masses without much commonsense. Don't be mistaken I'm referring to Uncle Yap, he has some sense and cause that are coherent however much others disagree with. I'm just generalising.

 

[uncleyap]

Shih did not mobilise "millions of people" in the protest against Ah Bian.
Taiwan's population is 23 million, how many millions could he have mobilised?
Mobilise 6 million and he would still be the chairman of DPP. 10 million and he would be president.

Reports are that he managed to get about 1 million people to donate to this cause. Doesn't mean that they all support him, many of them just hate Ah Bian.
The red shirt protest movement on the streets was between 100K to 300K depending on whether you believe police reports or protestors' reports.

And it was Shih who decided not to topple Ah Bian by force or with violence.
Of course, Ah Bian, being Ah Bian refused to resign.

There are millions in Taiwan HK mainland and overseas making donations and gesturing up to support Anti-Corruption and Deposing Ah Bian campaign by Mr 施明德.

However not everyone would be able to turn up at campaign marches or rallies or besiege 总统府. Hundreds of Thousands turned up.

In my blogs I wrote a dozen of articles to support this campaign, but did not got to Taipei Istana. When Red Shirts surrounded Taipei Istana for weeks of stand off it was Sept 2006, I was standing off here at Speakers Cornered. During the rest of that campaign it was GE2006 in Singapore, I was so busy, but I still wrote supportively for Anti-Corrupt Depose Bian Campaign.

 

[Equalisation]

smlj ?? so noisy ....

 

[Sideswipe]

Mr. 施明德 got millions of supporters in Taiwan and overseas and he will still enjoy the same support. He is unaffected by narrow thinking of Singaporean standard. He is not contesting election and don't have to worry about what voters think.

When he called upon people to topple corrupted Ah Bian millions will come to join him. That is not changed. His level is above any so called politicians in Singapore especially LKy.

施明德 is not contesting elections because he can't win.

He last contested Taiwan legislative elections 2004 in Taipei city, he can't even get elected in that multi members constituency ahead of Li Ao.
Today he has no chance to win a plurality constituency election against either a KMT or DPP candidate anywhere in Taiwan.

think a spinoff political party from red shirts protest also contested Taiwan legislative elections 2008 and flopped badly. of course lose - almost all the red shirt protests are KMT supporters. The red shirts leaders really believe they have millions of supporters?

 

[jw5]

施明德 is not contesting elections because he can't win.

He last contested Taiwan legislative elections 2004 in Taipei city, he can't even get elected in that multi members constituency ahead of Li Ao.
Today he has no chance to win a plurality constituency election against either a KMT or DPP candidate anywhere in Taiwan.

think a spinoff political party from red shirts protest also contested Taiwan legislative elections 2008 and flopped badly. of course lose - almost all the red shirt protests are KMT supporters. The red shirts leaders really believe they have millions of supporters?

Hey Sideswipe,

Is your avatar the official symbol of 100 years of ROC?
Mind sharing why you love ROC so much? :o

 

[Debonerman]

Hey Sideswipe,

Is your avatar the official symbol of 100 years of ROC?
Mind sharing why you love ROC so much? :o

Falling in love during Ex Starlight??

 

[jw5]

Falling in love during Ex Starlight??

Is that your reason for loving ROC? Past or present? :o

 

[Debonerman]

Is that your reason for loving ROC? Past or present? :o

I was suggesting what might be Sideswipe's answer. Me? During Heng Choong Camp? I was fucking miserable thinking about the girl I lost back home.:(

 

[Sideswipe]

Is your avatar the official symbol of 100 years of ROC?
Mind sharing why you love ROC so much? :o

well, I like 中天女主播 a lot...

it's mainly because I am a history buff of the Republican Era of China (1911-1949), the despicable ways of the Chinese Communists to attain power back then make me sympathize and support the Chinese Nationalists.

 

[jw5]

well, I like 中天女主播 a lot...

it's mainly because I am a history buff of the Republican Era of China (1911-1949), the despicable ways of the Chinese Communists to attain power back then make me sympathize and support the Chinese Nationalists.

Don't bluff, you only like one of them.

Thanks for your reply.

 

[uncleyap]

施明德 is not contesting elections because he can't win.

He last contested Taiwan legislative elections 2004 in Taipei city, he can't even get elected in that multi members constituency ahead of Li Ao.
Today he has no chance to win a plurality constituency election against either a KMT or DPP candidate anywhere in Taiwan.

think a spinoff political party from red shirts protest also contested Taiwan legislative elections 2008 and flopped badly. of course lose - almost all the red shirt protests are KMT supporters. The red shirts leaders really believe they have millions of supporters?

反贪倒扁 was a cross colored campaign, not green nor blue. People from both sides had joined. Even the green DPP had huge internal arguments about weather to turn directly against their own corrupted president or distance or disassociate with Ah Bian.

Upon admitting his own money laundering Ah Bian & wife both resigned from DPP party and their resignation was accepted. This is known in Taiwan as 切割。aka CUT-OFF.

Ah Bian's rampant corruption is so depressing and disappointing for many loyal green supporters that upon his re-election there were cases that depressed and angered green supporters took suicide and ended their own lives.

 

[uncleyap]

谢长廷 the presidential candidate who lost to 马英九 had at the final phase of losing tried to force corrupted 阿扁 to heed to resignation calls in order to save his campaign, since gallop polls indicated clearly that 马英九was going to win, 谢长廷 hoped 阿扁 to resign and turn the poll trend back. corrupt 阿扁 hanged up phone and refused to see 谢长廷.

http://news.sohu.com/20080327/n255932814.shtml

谢长廷曾逼陈水扁辞职救选情 阿扁挂电话拒见面

2008年03月27日03:12 [我来说两句(10)] [字号：大 中 小]

来源：金羊网-新快报



　　谢长廷正式请辞党主席
　　媒体预计谢将继续留任直到主席改选
　　新快报讯 民进党2008参选人、民进党主席谢长廷昨天中午正式请辞党主席，同时发表四点声明，呼吁对民进党进行维新，否则“很难确保不会在未来选举中泡沫化”。
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</td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table>他还沉重地表示，“本党将成为一无所有的在野党”。 　　据台湾媒体报道，在2008年台湾地区领导人选举中败选的谢长廷昨天正式辞去民进党主席职务。谢长廷提出民进党应该重新改革，并发表四点声明， 要求检讨党的定位，号召年轻人入党，召开临时党代表大会，扮演好监督制衡角色。谢长廷说，从2005年以来，民进党三度败选，他认为民进党应该要从党的制 度、选举、结构、定位和路线全面检讨，并非针对个人。台湾维新也包括从本党维新做起，才能找回社会对本党的信赖。谢长廷说，民进党应扮演监督好“执政党” 的在野党，民进党若不再维新，很难确保不会在未来选举中泡沫化。
　　谢长廷还在声明里，呼吁民进党重视吸引年轻人。
　　谢长廷呼吁尽快召开临时党代表大会，他说，“应该让改革的声音大鸣大放，重新思考党的未来路线和定位，修改党章、党职人选的选举办法，让新加入的年轻人能在5月党主席选举中拥有投票权。”
　　谢长廷同时呼吁马英九继续执行正义，调查林义雄案、陈文成案和“3·19枪击案”的真相，并在一定时间内予以公布。
　　民进党秘书长李应元表示，党中央今天下午将召开临时中执会讨论党主席请辞是否生效，以及处理一系列党的改造问题。台湾媒体预计谢长廷将继续带领民进党度过艰困期，直到5月25日主席改选为止。
　　施明德爆料
　　谢逼扁辞职救选情
　　新快报讯 据台湾媒体报道，民进党前主席施明德爆料，谢长廷选前曾指派许信良去劝陈水扁请辞、面对司法，挽救选情，陈水扁拒绝见面，也拒接电话。
　　谢长廷昨天下午则公开否认，表示“总统”选战期间没有见过施明德，更未跟他谈过任何条件，施的说法是假的。
　　谢长廷中午离开中常会现场受访时否认上述说法。他表示，“可能是我选输了，会有一些折磨与痛苦，我愿意承担，但涉及别人的事还要是说清楚。”
　　施明德日前在电视节目接受好友陈文茜专访，仔细描述谢派许信良去游说陈水扁请辞下台，面对司法的过程。

 

[GoldenDragon]

I would like to fuck Irene Ng's backside. How?

Sperm is a precious commodity. The older you are, the more precious it becomes. Don't waste it on Irene Ng hor.

 

[GoldenDragon]

So the Law in Singapore is based on selective interpretation?

finish (someone or an animal) off
to kill someone or an animal that is already injured or wounded. They had to finish the wounded bear off with a revolver. The hunter finished off the bear.
See also: finish
finish (something) off (with something)

to bring something to a conclusion with something. She finished the dinner off with fancy cheeses and fruit. She finished off the dinner with pie.
See also: finish
finish someone or something off

Fig. to complete some activity being performed on someone or something. Let's finish this one off and go home. Yes, let's finish off this one. Nancy is cutting Elaine's hair. When she finishes her off, she will be ready to leave.
See also: finish

Thanks, bro. That's why I left out 'k' word.

 

[GoldenDragon]

I think, she'd be wondering what's wrong with her frontside? :( :oIo:

Aiyoh, very simple. Front bo virgin liao lah. Back should have good chance - tighter lah.

 

[jw5]

There's one Taiwan politician that I detest more than Ah Bian and that's Frank Hsieh.
At least Ah Bian can sometimes be a little cute in his speech and actions. I can't find any redeeming qualities in Frank at all. :(