Modern Singapore Slavery

[TracyTan866]

unconscious decisions and freewill look the same to most ppl . If physical processes in the brain cause our actions, then how can there be free will?

maybe they look the same to you...but to me, they are clearly different. so you can't generalise for others

 

[TracyTan866]

You're free not to believe them.

hahahaha...well said

 

[drifter]

You're free not to believe them.

because of my good brain conditioning ...

 

[TracyTan866]

because of my good brain conditioning ...

It's nice that you think so of urself

 

[johnny333]

wahlaneh...
slavery in my limited understanding is being sold as an item to a master to be tortured until death.
remember ROOTS? Kunta Kinte.

Back then it was ok to buy/sell blacks in America.

Just as it is ok to fire Sporeans & replace them with cheaper foreigners

Its also ok to torture male Sporeans, except in Spore it's called NS

 

[ivebert]

What a loser thread started by a sinkie peasant

This is done on a willing basis. No one forces them to come.

All these PRC peasants come here for work opportunities, which are in short supply in China

Willing seller Willing Buyer

 

[TracyTan866]

Back then it was ok to buy/sell blacks in America.

Just as it is ok to fire Sporeans & replace them with cheaper foreigners

Its also ok to torture male Sporeans, except in Spore it's called NS

hahahaha...good observation..

so my this post shd also include all the NSFs..it's indeed Modern Singapore Slavery

fortunately, i was spared the torture. I was and is not a SG slave

 

[po2wq]

... Some of them pay as much as S$10,000 to the middleman to get a job, 2-yr contract in SG. This amounts to abt 1.1yrs their salary of $800 per mth ...

贩卖人口 makes goot moni ...


ze world's bestest paid gahmen open chicken coops, open gambling dens n encourages ze piglets-selling ...

 

[drifter]

http://www.physorg.com/news186830615.html

 

[TracyTan866]

贩卖人口 makes goot moni ...


ze world's bestest paid gahmen open chicken coops, open gambling dens n encourages ze piglets-selling ...

hmmmm...interesting point

 

[TracyTan866]

What a loser thread started by a sinkie peasant

This is done on a willing basis. No one forces them to come.

All these PRC peasants come here for work opportunities, which are in short supply in China

Willing seller Willing Buyer

To you, being given false information is willing seller? In legal term, it is called cheated. In pasar language, it's called conned.

so the cheap foreigner workers were cheated/conned by the middlemen

 

[drifter]

To you, being given false information is willing seller? In legal term, it is called cheated. In pasar language, it's called conned.

so the cheap foreigner workers were cheated/conned by the middlemen

so now you used cheated / conned and not freewill ?

 

[TracyTan866]

so now you used cheated / conned and not freewill ?

they were cheated/conned into modern slavery..they didnt freely choose to be modern slaves. given a choice, they wld love to go back to their homeland

 

[TracyTan866]

so now you used cheated / conned and not freewill ?

who is talking abt freewill in the exploitation of cheap foreign labour?

 

[drifter]

they were cheated/conned into modern slavery..they didnt freely choose to be modern slaves. given a choice, they wld love to go back to their homeland

as i said before ..there are no free will only conscious and unconscious decisions .

 

[Cruxx]

Slavery means very hard work or drudgery.

Do we see very hard working conditions or work drudgery in SG? This is modern day slavery not unlike medieval slavery.

Many young women and young men leave their homes in poverty stricken countries to work in SG in very hard working conditions. Some of them pay as much as S$10,000 to the middleman to get a job, 2-yr contract in SG. This amounts to abt 1.1yrs their salary of $800 per mth.

Working conditions are tough and living conditions are appalling. And the sad part is, they cant break the two-yr contract because, if they do, and are sent back, they have no means to pay back the money they borrowed to come to SG. So they are stuck!!! A slave!!!!

How many of us know abt the PRC men and gals and filipinas who work under such conditions in SG? How many of us heard of filipina maids, PRC construction workers, PRC gals working in SATs, who are subject to such deals and conditions?

The pap allows their exploitation. As a singaporean, do you condone such slavery?

"Slavery" means servitude to others against your volition, Sumiko.

 

[johnny333]

fortunately, i was spared the torture. I was and is not a SG slave

Were you really spared

Females don't have to do NS, but there are other costs: loneliness, false expectation of being a super mom, ....

Just look around at the number of unhappy "single" aunties that are on the shelf. Even the married ones look stressed & unhappy. There is also the increasing number of maid abuse cases, symptoms of problems at home?

 

[drifter]

who is talking abt freewill in the exploitation of cheap foreign labour?

since you said there are free will in religion and you believe in free will ...so whats make you think cheap FT did not have free will to chose what they belive in ??

 

[Cruxx]

as i said before ..there are no free will only conscious and unconscious decisions .

Yeah, there's no free will. I personally couldn't care if I have the freedom to leave my house or the freedom to open my mouth. Freedom is an illusion.

 

[TracyTan866]

"Slavery" means servitude to others against your volition, Sumiko.

good definition...so not freewill?