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When dealer has a 10, I have 11, i will double down. So this rule is advantage to me. Most people do not double when dealer has a 10. When dealer has an ACE, I have seen people splitting 99 and 88. I don't split when dealer has 10 or ACE.

Actually a lot of people have shifted to playing Pontoon. Popularity is still Pontoon. So if you play blackjack, not much of those people criticise you.

Pontoon is very good for people who don't double or split. They can get money 1st when hit 21 points. Blackjack is favorable to people who like double down, split cards.
These are quite obvious. To split 99 or 88 when dealer has an ace is just plain silly.
Key questions are:
When you have a 10 and dealer has a 10, do you double down?
When dealer has a 11, do you fold or buy insurance or just carry on?
 

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These are quite obvious. To split 99 or 88 when dealer has an ace is just plain silly.
Key questions are:
When you have a 10 and dealer has a 10, do you double down?
When dealer has a 11, do you fold or buy insurance or just carry on?

When I have a 10, dealer has a 10, I hit till at least 17. That will guarantee losing lesser than hitting till 12-16 pts and wait for dealer to bust. The strategy of no busting before dealer is one of the lousiest strategy applied when we must know dealer's strongest cards are 9,10,j,q,k,A

When dealer have an ACE which is 11, 2 ways of playing.

if you are playing 1 hole, never buy insurance. Not worth it. because only 30% chance of dealer getting blackjack. insurance pays 2:1. So playing 1 hole, must try to hit your cards till at least 17pts. When dealer has an ACE, very seldom bust. Real life situation for me, dealer busting when they have an ACE is around 6%. That means 100 times, dealer has ACE, only about 6 times he will bust.

If you are playing a few holes, example 5 holes, then buying insurance is a good way to reduce losses.
if you have 5 holes in this sequence, 20pts, 18pts, pair of 33s, 16pts, 19pts.
let's say each hole bet $100. So total there is $500 worth of bets on the table. Dealer has ACE.
20pts hole can fight
19pts hole can fight
18pts hole maybe can fight

16pts cannot surrender because dealer has ACE. When dealer has 10,J,Q,K, 16pts surrender is already lose half better than lose more. It's a losing end card. So this 16pts must HIT.

pair of 33s, cannot split because dealer has ACE. 6 pts on hand, tendency to get 16pts is high because of 4 big 10s cards. getting 9 is 15pts, getting 8 is 14pts, getting 7 is 13pts. The situation is bleak.

This set of layout when dealer has ACE is to aim to leave this game losing less than $500. So will buy $50 worth of insurance.

If dealer hits blackjack, lose table bets $500 +insurance $100, total lose $400
If dealer hits 20, lose table bets $400 -insurance $50, total lose $450
If dealer hits 19, lose table bets $300 -insurance $50, total lose $350

If have no insurance, dealer hits blackjack, total lose $500

The only way to lose more than $500 is when dealer gets a 5, and gets another 5, total 21pts eat up all the bets + insurance bet. total loss is -$550
This scenario happens approx 10% of the time. So if you play 100 times, 10 times you will lose $50 more than the $500 you placed, but 90 times, you will save yourself from losing $50 or more. If can win anything out from this table, its a bonus. Rare but have also.
 

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Last night I won $1,000 in MBS from 8pm to 4pm after heavy rain outside.

Min bet in Baccarat tables had been raised in High Limit area & Ruby Room.

The buffet food in Ruby Room is horrible yet still charge $15 per head Premier Dollars :rolleyes:
 

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Last night I won $1,000 in MBS from 8pm to 4pm after heavy rain outside.

Min bet in Baccarat tables had been raised in High Limit area & Ruby Room.

The buffet food in Ruby Room is horrible yet still charge $15 per head Premier Dollars :rolleyes:

8am to 4pm. not bad, recovered your loss the other time right? Just went on friday night. maybe later going. :o
 

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8am to 4pm. not bad, recovered your loss the other time right? Just went on friday night. maybe later going. :o

Thanks I did recovered my losses. I am going to MBS now to deplete my Premier Dollars earned yesterday since my $100 levy expired at 8pm tonight.

Good luck bro silverfox... hope to see you there winning :biggrin:
 

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Last night I bought another $100 levy to play till midnight. I saw some pretty young ang moh & asian gals in roller-blades giving out promotional premier advantage leaflets. And 2 PRC women tourists exchange RMB 50,000+ for SGD10,000 in the Cage Cashier in High Limit area :eek:

There is a raise in min bet in Baccarat tables.

(a) Common areas in B1 & L1 - Min bet is $50 (no more $25)

(b) High Limit area in B1 - Min bet is $200 (no more $100)

(c) Ruby Room - Min bet is $200 (no more $100) one table min bet $500 very empty :biggrin:

L1 now also have Rapid Roulette. Very long queue in taxi stand in midnight :o

Nett winning is $1,300 this weekend after levies & taxi expenses :biggrin:
 

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In terms of giving perks, which IR is bettter?

So far, been gaming mostly at RWS and use points for food and rooms.

Heard that MBS gives out complimentary rooms and also have lucky draws, RWs should learn from them. :mad:
 

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In terms of giving perks, which IR is bettter?

So far, been gaming mostly at RWS and use points for food and rooms.

Heard that MBS gives out complimentary rooms and also have lucky draws, RWs should learn from them. :mad:

I prefer MBS. Lunch time went down to gamble 1 hour ..not bad win $350 :biggrin:
 

silverfox@

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In terms of giving perks, which IR is bettter?

So far, been gaming mostly at RWS and use points for food and rooms.

Heard that MBS gives out complimentary rooms and also have lucky draws, RWs should learn from them. :mad:

MBS wants to hook as much members as possible from Genting's base. So they will endorse your Genting Worldcard membership. Roomswise is very good. RWS and MBS also have lucky draws.

But the main reason I chose MBS is not because of these. The atmosphere is much better. Less crowding, less people also. You should make a trip down and see whether you find MBS nicer.
 

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Saw many people playing Pontoon instead, so walk over and see.

Advantage Rule
-Hit 21 points get money first

Disadvantage Rule
-Dealer hit on Soft 17.
-Doubling down on soft cards only gives a 1 and not 11. Example if A5, you double, A is considered 1 pt only
-Surrender when dealer has 10 and he gets a blackjack, he will still void your surrender.
-Lack of 10s in the deck. So it makes Doubling down and Splits disadvantageous for players.

And the worst thing is more people playing pontoon than blackjack. :eek:

Last time in Genting Malaysia, you cannot find a blackjack table in the common gaming areas. Blackjack tables are only in the International Room. Pontoon tables plenty.
 

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In terms of giving perks, which IR is bettter?

So far, been gaming mostly at RWS and use points for food and rooms.

Heard that MBS gives out complimentary rooms and also have lucky draws, RWs should learn from them. :mad:
Tell CRA not to meddle with the perks offered to members :mad: :( :rolleyes:

This was discussed earlier - see much earlier pages [from around Pg 99+ - 100+ ?

Well NOT sure that MBS is continuing with the complimentary room allocating/offer anymore due to CRA action ...
Both kia and I were NOT given any free rooms THIS month ! :mad: :confused:
Tho' I have taken advantage of their 'special-offer room rates as opposed to being totally foc as in the past' and made a weekend booking for later in Oct using my premierdollars to pay/offset such

The last Blazing 3s Finale Lucky Draws just ended on Sun
Not picked for the Fri & Sun draw sessions [didn't go MBS on Sat] and hope it wasn't because I had already won a 'quite decent cash prize of >1k on the very 1st day of the promo in August' - used quite a few of the discounted meal vouchers won from the swipes and also had 2 free room upgrade vouchers of which the final one would be used for coming stay

Also had foc box of mooncakes + offer-rate purchase of more mooncakes
{also have entries for MBS Shoppes Shopping Lucky Draw Objects of Desire ... NOT for the Tag Huer one tho' .... }

Well I wish future MBS lucky draws could be made much less 'stressful'
eg. not subjecting us to prize forfeiture if not personally present etc etc etc...

I WAS really "exhausted" on Fri when I went all-over-the-place in my high wedgies [my soles really hurt] trying to witness many of the hourly-session draws and then walking longer distance to 're-enter by the minor casino entrance for better gambling luck instead of the nearby 'main' entrances' and then going between L1 and B1 to search for available 'free' fun paying-out slots etc etc etc ..... :o:rolleyes:
On weekends I can dress so much more casually and comfortably wearing flats etc instead ....

Also see other thread : Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges
 

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MBS B1 there is a lounge with singers performed. Last night I saw one female singer quite cute. I have not sit inside the lounge for a drink yet and I am wondering can we use our Premier Dollars to offset drink purchase there :confused:
 

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Many people have the wrong impression that pontoon is a "lousier" game to play as compared to blackjack because pontoon utilises spainish decks (decks where the 10s are removed).

This is actually not true. If you refer to the following wizard of odds page on pontoon, you can see the house edge for pontoon are actually lower than blackjack ( please refer to the Malaysian version of pontoon)


http://wizardofodds.com/pontoon

This is assuming that you play using the basic strategy for pontoon and blackjack respectively. If you are using mysterious oddball plays like those favoured by silverfox, then this will not apply since the house edge for such play will be much higher than the house edge using basic.

Pontoon is only "lousier" than blackjack if you are a card counter playing against a casino using a manual shoe. This is because by using spainish decks, the incidence of positive expectations decks occuring is very low. Pontoon was therefore one of the first casino counter measures against card counters in the days before continuous shufflers. This point is of course moot for RWS/MBS since both use continuous shufflers.

Here it should be noted that if you are going to use the pontoon basic strategy from wizard of odds, prepared to get cursed at by ah peks and aunties at the pontoon table. This is because some of the specific plays run counter to what is the estalished play of many pontoon players. They will therefore scold you for "causing them to lose" and call you all sorts of names.
 
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Many people have the wrong impression that pontoon is a "lousier" game to play as compared to blackjack because pontoon utilises spainish decks (decks where the 10s are removed).

You are wrong. Many people have the wrong impression that pontoon is a "better" game to play as compared to blackjack just by looking at the crowd difference between the pontoon tables and blackjack tables. Enough said.

Use eyes and see better than talk with words. Anyone in RWS or MBS can verfiy this statement and can even throw my statement off whether there are more people playing blackjack or more people playing pontoon.

Disadvantage Rule
-Dealer hit on Soft 17.
-Doubling down on soft cards only gives a 1 and not 11. Example if A5, you double, A is considered 1 pt only (So no point doubling down on soft cards unlike Blackjack)
-Surrender when dealer has 10 and he gets a blackjack, he will still void your surrender.
-Lack of 10s in the deck. So it makes Doubling down and Splits disadvantageous for players.
This is the reason why pontoon is lousier than blackjack.

If you can think of reasons of which pontoon is better than blackjack, please "share" here.

I can only think of getting money paid out for hitting 21 regardless of whether dealer has blackjack. And most of the time when you get 21, whether get money first or later is not much of a difference. The difference is not enough to supercede all the disadvantages in pontoon
 

aurvandil

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If you can think of reasons of which pontoon is better than blackjack, please "share" here.

Monte Carlo simulation which simulated millions of hands of blackjack and millions of hands of pontoon. Applying the strategy which resulted in the best return (i.e. basic), the statisiticans found that the house edge for playing pontoon is lower than blackjack.

This however does not apply to your "special" play since you claim this can defy the laws of probability.
 

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Monte Carlo simulation which simulated millions of hands of blackjack and millions of hands of pontoon. Applying the strategy which resulted in the best return (i.e. basic), the statisiticans found that the house edge for playing pontoon is lower than blackjack.

This however does not apply to your "special" play since you claim this can defy the laws of probability.

Check the rules and regulations of each game, making sure you are very very sure how each place plays the game differently then you share.
 
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