Tartman: We'll keep to 1/3 limit on FTs

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Jun 5, 2010

'Not just a global city, but also a country'

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Interview with Finance Minister and ESC chairman Tharman Shanmugaratnam

To what extent was the discontent over foreigners an issue during the Economic Strategies Committee deliberations? Much less than has been made out to be, frankly. The start and end points did not have to do with public discomfort about foreigners per se. This was a fundamental economic strategy issue. We knew that if we continued with the strategy of very rapid growth of the workforce, there would be a trade-off in low productivity growth over the long term.

If the boom years return, would the floodgates be opened for foreign workers again? No, I don't think so. This year, we are still recovering from the crisis, so we hope that it would be a good year.
Going beyond that, we've got to find ways through a whole range of policy instruments - fiscal policy, monetary policy, labour and land policies - to try to achieve a sustainable rate of growth, although year by year, it will always be higher or lower than what you think is a steady, sustainable rate. We don't have a policy of going for high growth for its own sake.

How did you decide on that one-third limit for foreigners? Because we were close to it already, that was a starting point. We had to assess whether we should allow it to keep increasing or whether to cut back. Cutting back would have been very painful for the economy and ultimately for the local workforce. But we didn't think it was wise to allow it to keep increasing, at least not on a secular basis over the long term.
One-third is somewhat lower than what some other global cities have been able to accommodate. If you look at London, New York, it's probably over 40 per cent. But they are cities in countries. I don't think we can afford to be like them, to have over 40 per cent of our workforce foreign without losing something that defines you as a nation, a basic tenor of society that's still Singaporean. And you assess that one-third is about right in the long term. We felt we are more comfortable with that than thinking we are nothing but a global city. We are also a country.
RACHEL CHANG


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[makapaaa]

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Look around you. It's more like 2/3 of Peesai is now filled with FTrash!

 

[cooleo]

>>One-third is somewhat lower than what some other global cities have been able to accommodate. If you look at London, New York, it's probably over 40 per cent. But they are cities in countries. I don't think we can afford to be like them, to have over 40 per cent of our workforce foreign without losing something that defines you as a nation, a basic tenor of society that's still Singaporean.<<

Anyone been to London or New York? Can confirm over 40% people there are foreign trash? Another urban legend by the fucking PAPpy dogs?

 

[jw5]

I don't think that 40% figure can be verified.
Even if it could, is this supposed to represent the % of foreigners to the country or simply the % of people who are "foreign" to the cities, e.g. people who are from England but not from London.

 

[halsey02]

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Look around you. It's more like 2/3 of Peesai is now filled with FTrash!

That kind of people have forked tongues...believe all you want!!:p

 

[soikee]

If you come across a keling-kia and a cobra snake, without any hesitation, kill the keling-kia first!

He's a king motherfucker tongue-twister!

 

[Brightkid]

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Interview with Finance Minister and ESC chairman Tharman Shanmugaratnam

To what extent was the discontent over foreigners an issue during the Economic Strategies Committee deliberations? Much less than has been made out to be, frankly. The start and end points did not have to do with public discomfort about foreigners per se. This was a fundamental economic strategy issue. We knew that if we continued with the strategy of very rapid growth of the workforce, there would be a trade-off in low productivity growth over the long term.

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Words in red implies ?

That MIW are deaf to the discontent fo the citizens. They did not think it was worth the fforts to amnt of time to deliberate on it.

"The start and end points did not have to do with public discomfort about foreigners per se. This was a fundamental economic strategy issue"......means YOU DIE YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

Did I interpret the message wrongly ?

 

[Baroko]

1/3 limit? He was told to put tis figure? Just like "win some, lose some"

It's a case of too little too late. Just vote wisely with your heads. Some ministers need to go before the PAP will listen.

 

[Glaringly]

We have been screwed with the choice of words being used. Before we jump up and think they did some action, we have to ask, what is lump into foreigners?

Base on all previous wordings that they try to hookwind us. I bet foreigners would mean foreign workers only.

That means he is still correct to say if we had.

1/3 foreigners, 1/3 PR, 1/3 citizens. ( So, 1/3 foreigners may mean only 1/3 citizens and the rest is non-citizen ).

The other point is, like JW5 pointed out, how can we verify? If there is no means to do it, then all these talk are plain hotair.

 

[ccchia]

Never trust the words of any politician.
They are similar to used car salesmen who would claim that a car that is a clunker and has been driven to the ground was used only by an old lady.

 

[ahleebabasingaporethief]

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Interview with Finance Minister and ESC chairman Tharman Shanmugaratnam

To what extent was the discontent over foreigners an issue during the Economic Strategies Committee deliberations? Much less than has been made out to be, frankly. The start and end points did not have to do with public discomfort about foreigners per se. This was a fundamental economic strategy issue. We knew that if we continued with the strategy of very rapid growth of the workforce, there would be a trade-off in low productivity growth over the long term.

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Much less?
THE WHOLE OF SINGAPORE TULAN UNTIL CANNOT TULAN STILL CAN SAY MUCH LESS THAN ANTICIPATED?
Tell the SCUMS to wait for ERECTIONS.

OPPOSITION better CONTEST THE WHOLE OF SINGAPORE. CCB!:oIo:
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[yellow_people]

>>One-third is somewhat lower than what some other global cities have been able to accommodate. If you look at London, New York, it's probably over 40 per cent. But they are cities in countries. I don't think we can afford to be like them, to have over 40 per cent of our workforce foreign without losing something that defines you as a nation, a basic tenor of society that's still Singaporean.<<

Anyone been to London or New York? Can confirm over 40% people there are foreign trash? Another urban legend by the fucking PAPpy dogs?

Yes its true. In SG the foreigners comprise mainly the third rate Ah Tiongs, Ah Nehs and Pinoys who CMI to first world countries. In cities like London, New York and even Melbourne and Sydney, the foreigners are made up not only of first rate Ah Tiongs and Ah Nehs but East Europeans, assortment of Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, South Americans etc. In short it is a truly multi-cultural melting pot that makes up the diverse first class cities.

Ah Beng should consider himeself fortunate he only has to compete with 3rd rate FTs.

 

[Shin Orochi]

Ah Beng should consider himeself fortunate he only has to compete with 3rd rate FTs.

Remember that your frustration will start to show next week. Every two days you will get a present from the OA. For now you can smile.

 

[Dodomeki]

Ah Beng should consider himeself fortunate he only has to compete with 3rd rate FTs.

And when we tell you to smile you better do so.

 

[cooleo]

Yes its true. In SG the foreigners comprise mainly the third rate Ah Tiongs, Ah Nehs and Pinoys who CMI to first world countries. In cities like London, New York and even Melbourne and Sydney, the foreigners are made up not only of first rate Ah Tiongs and Ah Nehs but East Europeans, assortment of Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, South Americans etc. In short it is a truly multi-cultural melting pot that makes up the diverse first class cities.

Ah Beng should consider himeself fortunate he only has to compete with 3rd rate FTs.

Yellow_People u really outdone yourself by insulting your own kind as 3rd world. So now u know why u can't get a bloody job in Sinkapore right? hehe....:oIo:

 

[Watchman]

We don't mind FTs .

But it's getting crowded here in Singapore .

And it's unbearable . Makes one consider to do something stupid !

 

[yellow_people]

Yellow_People u really outdone yourself by insulting your own kind as 3rd world. So now u know why u can't get a bloody job in Sinkapore right? hehe....:oIo:

Don't be a prude. I call a spade a spade. There are a billion Ah Nehs in India alone. The Ah Nehs that flock to SG like the Ah Tiongs are 3rd rate talents. Most of them attempt to get a VISA to UK. AUS or USA from here. Even the PAP knows that! Can't blame the FTs. Who would enjoy the company of whiny Ah Bengs with a can't do attitude? Even local Chinese women prefer foreigners.

 

[chowka]

I call a spade a spade.

But kelings smelly odour will still be there no matter how hard you scrub and how many times you shower.

 

[yellow_people]

And when we tell you to smile you better do so.

Fuck you and your 250 clones.

I'm not going to smile when told to do so simply because the 75% Ah Beng majority does what he is told without questions to PAP. When LKY tells Ah Beng to bend over, you nincompoops, drop your pants immediately and bend over and touch your toes.

LKY explaining the success behind yet another successfully PAP policy - Foreign Talent. As all successful policies, the FT policy has one constant - 75% Chinese majority. Read :

"We have a practical people whose culture tells them that contention for the sake of contention leads to disaster. I have said this on many a previous occasion; that had the mix in Singapore been different, had it been 75% Indians, 15% Malays and the rest Chinese, it would not have worked. Because they believe in the politics of contention, of opposition. But because the culture was such that the populace sought a practical way out of their difficulties, therefore it has worked." Lee Kuan Yew in Parliament, 1985.

 

[chowka]

Fuck you and your 250 clones.

We'll see about that. And don't let me see you whining.