ARE WE ALL LIVING IN A PROLETARIAT SITUATION in SINGAPORE?

[Sperminator]

Decide for yourself, where are you at the Capitalism System.

Think for yourself, where you are currently.

 

[Devil Within]

Decide for yourself, where are you at the Capitalism System.

Think for yourself, where you are currently.

That is not capitalism. Get your definition of capitalism correct first. Watch the video from 2.32 onwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23JIFy8Vm6Q&feature=related
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[Sperminator]

What do you think is better?

Capitalism upgraded to Socialism, then upgraded to Communism?

I think in this crazy world... due to selfishness of mankind, it'll be difficult to iron out what is good or what is bad.

The economic system is basically created by Man, and even if it's an ideal system, due to the flaws of man, it will not work out well...

Karl Marx thinking was very idealist, and its going to be extremely difficult to maintain a selfless, classless economic system...

Simply because everyone is different, in terms of intelligence, skills tendencies, social background, religion, etc...

There will always be some pigs more equal than other pigs...

There will always be leaders and followers...

There will always be thinkers and retards...

Strangely speaking, the economic system of today's world is designed to keep people with enough food and shelter, just enough so that they will not revolt, and not enough for the Proletariat Class to prosper enough to become Bourgeoisie Class.

In history, it's always the Bourgeoisie Class that controls the production of goods and services, and it's this class of people that have direct connections to the people in power of the nation.

Therefore, for people who do not think about the Economic System... they are actually Proletariats, or Salariats people who use their labour in exchange of wage / salary... it's this lowest class that will be stuck...

 

[Einfield]

Communism will feed the world and there will be no one dying of hunger, because the world produced enough for everyone, BUT, this system will not work for Humans, AND it also will not motivate mankind as there is no need to work hard, just work enough like everyone else will do.

The idea sounds good to poor rural folks who got nothing to loose, the fact that everyone is equal sound irresistible.

Mao, Starlin all use this to secure support from the angry mob and got into power. Murdering millions of their own people after they are in power is already clearly recorded in history.

A hybrid of Communism and Capitalism seems workable, but that can only be achieve if you have a government with a clear mission to take care of the citizens and distribute the wealth wisely. Scandinavian countries seems to be smart enough to find this balance.

Old Fart's "NO WELFARE" "OPEN LEG FOR FT" economic policy is the right wing of Capitalism, BUT he also adopt the other extreme when it come to his own people, using the left wing Communist method on "LABOR MOVEMENT"
"HASH LAWS" and many more to suppress those that they rule.

That is why many country like to study the "Singapore Model"
It is every Despot's dream to be able to reap huge profits, gain international recondition (By Buying it), suppress the population's ability to think or act, and still Stay in power for ever.

What do you think is better?

Capitalism upgraded to Socialism, then upgraded to Communism?

I think in this crazy world... due to selfishness of mankind, it'll be difficult to iron out what is good or what is bad.

The economic system is basically created by Man, and even if it's an ideal system, due to the flaws of man, it will not work out well...

Karl Marx thinking was very idealist, and its going to be extremely difficult to maintain a selfless, classless economic system...

Simply because everyone is different, in terms of intelligence, skills tendencies, social background, religion, etc...

There will always be some pigs more equal than other pigs...

There will always be leaders and followers...

There will always be thinkers and retards...

Strangely speaking, the economic system of today's world is designed to keep people with enough food and shelter, just enough so that they will not revolt, and not enough for the Proletariat Class to prosper enough to become Bourgeoisie Class.

In history, it's always the Bourgeoisie Class that controls the production of goods and services, and it's this class of people that have direct connections to the people in power of the nation.

Therefore, for people who do not think about the Economic System... they are actually Proletariats, or Salariats people who use their labour in exchange of wage / salary... it's this lowest class that will be stuck...

 

[Sperminator]

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That is why many country like to study the "Singapore Model"
It is every Despot's dream to be able to reap huge profits, gain international recondition (By Buying it), suppress the population's ability to think or act, and still Stay in power for ever.

There are countries that are studying "Uniquely SINGAPORE"

And I fully agree with your analysis.

Even so, with Capitalism + Communism Mix style management, if the mission objective is not for the people, it'll form up a Elitist Class of people.

Even so in Socialism, and Communism, there will always be some people more equal than others. Human Nature will never change, its been like this for aeons, perhaps millions of years or more, until the Dictatorship of Proletariat comes, as stated by Karl Marx.

My views are even when there is a Revolution by the Worker Class / Salariat / Proletariat, there will be someone who rise to power, and form up a Elitist Class of people again..., just like Lenin, Mao, etc... the list goes on.

The cycle will keep on continuing, until the destruction of mankind itself...

Democracy, this system is not perfect as well...

To increase public opinion, government will increase spending on domestic services, and cut taxes (TEMPORARILY), and once the intended government is in power again, domestic spending reduces, and taxes increased even higher than before...

At the end of the day, it's all about POWER & CONTROL. Whatever the form doesn't matter, whatever the name of the government it doesn't matter, it's all about POWER & CONTROL.

I can think of one very big country that is following the "Uniquely SINGAPORE" political economic management model, aka Communism + Capitalism with a taste of Socialism hybrid... CHINA.