Redditer: Numb and broken . This religion is toxic

[DaoMa]

Numb and broken . This religion is toxic​

I am done with christianity and with Jesus. I hate him depise him and I fear him extremely. I hate that is always live a life of pure misery and unhappiness and yet you have to worship me through it or you will be tortured eternally. Carry your cross and follow me. I DONT WANT TO STUPID MAN.

You are born in this world without your consent I never asked to be born at all and I regret being born ( even though I never had a saying ) . Then you have to obey all his rules no matter the cost and even love him on the process . Why I would love someone who forces me to suffer? And not only that he will test me to see if the faith is real. Oh but the reward is inifinite they say. Keep your fucking heaven and let me rot on my grave.I dont want to worship him my abuser and torturer. Not even as a Christian I wanted heaven not at all it seemed boring now I see it as a celestial North Korea where you cant leave from and you are surrounded by other christians. YAY . And if you dont obey you are going to be tortured eternally . The choice is yours . What an amazing options.

Some even say that heaven will be just staring at God eternally. AMAZING . Give me wealth and a woman that truly loves me instead and let me rot on my grave at the end of my days instead of taking me up there.

God has killed millions and millions of people and nobody cares at all. He flooded the earth commanded rape and genocide on the Old Testament and will torture people for the whole eternity and people praise him and cheer him. I honestly think in most cases is survival instinct they dont wanna be on the losing team. Its like the jews that helped the nazis to hunt other jews just to survive some weeks.

Its a fucking abusive relationship people should notice it: ( the three abrahamic religions are toxic)

- You are broken and dont deserve anything good

- You are nothing without me

- You should forsake everything all the time for me

- Have you got any idea of how much I sacrificed for you?

- If you leave me I will make your life a living hell.

- I dont want people or things to come between us

- I love you I truly do but if you dont love me back....

- Look at what you made me do

- Come here to worship me eternally.

I hate him so much if I ever stand before him on judgement day and he says : I am going to send you to hell eternally .Do you have any previous wish? Yes tyrant let me attack you and break your bones in your human form. Its an abusive relationship I dont know how we are so blind. The Bible says we are dirty broken people that our good works are filthy rags. Why even bother? At your best you wont ever be enough for the wrong person. Get lost Jesus . The only reason for which I was a christian was to avoid hell I came to the faith when I stumbled on a video of r3alism talking about hell an how painful it was going to be. I hate Jesus for creating me and I wish I was never born or I was aborted . I wont bring kids into this world so they have to fear hell or suffer the christian life. Jesus is my lord and saviour some people say well for me he is my abuser and torturer. I dont want heaven not even for free I just wanna rot on my grave I dont wanna be with you Jesus you are a tyrant. This stupid religion gave me OCD anxiety and now I wanna kill myself but since I am already going to be tortured eternally I might leave on a grand final. I will spend my whole life trying to debunk this toxic religion

 

[DaoMa]

Master Sifu @Dongyi
This redditer 可以吗?

 

[Dongyi]

What you're doing is 拋磚引玉.

What that pubor is doing is 孔明借箭.

 

[hepburn21]

Organized religion has been about power and control. Truth takes a back seat. Just look to the Ethiopian Bible.

 

[Dongyi]

Master Sifu @Dongyi
This redditer 可以吗?

His struggle is not with theology but with unmet desire. At its core, his complaint is that God did not give him what he wanted.

Don't believe it? Consider this: if God had relented out of fear of losing a believer and given him a private property on Dunearn Road and a Lexus ES300h to drive around in, would he still be wrestling with these theological objections? Or would he instead be speaking condescendingly to HDB dwellers and commuters on public transport, had God lifted him from a low socioeconomic background into a life of affluence? I bet he would be praising God all day long.

That is the real test. If a person's view of God changes when his circumstances change, then the issue is not merely theological or philosophical. It is also personal. The heart's desires shape the mind's conclusions far more than we often care to admit. For the true believer, the sovereignty of God is non-negotiable; for the opportunist, it is acceptable only so long as it serves his personal desires. Tio boh ?​

 

[DaoMa]

His struggle is not with theology but with unmet desire. At its core, his complaint is that God did not give him what he wanted.

Don't believe it? Consider this: if God had relented out of fear of losing a believer and given him a private property on Dunearn Road and a Lexus ES300h to drive around in, would he still be wrestling with these theological objections? Or would he instead be speaking condescendingly to HDB dwellers and commuters on public transport, had God lifted him from a low socioeconomic background into a life of affluence? I bet he would be praising God all day long.

That is the real test. If a person's view of God changes when his circumstances change, then the issue is not merely theological or philosophical. It is also personal. The heart's desires shape the mind's conclusions far more than we often care to admit. For the true believer, the sovereignty of God is non-negotiable; for the opportunist, it is acceptable only so long as it serves his personal desires. Tio boh ?​

So incisive

 

[DaoMa]

His struggle is not with theology but with unmet desire. At its core, his complaint is that God did not give him what he wanted.

Don't believe it? Consider this: if God had relented out of fear of losing a believer and given him a private property on Dunearn Road and a Lexus ES300h to drive around in, would he still be wrestling with these theological objections? Or would he instead be speaking condescendingly to HDB dwellers and commuters on public transport, had God lifted him from a low socioeconomic background into a life of affluence? I bet he would be praising God all day long.

That is the real test. If a person's view of God changes when his circumstances change, then the issue is not merely theological or philosophical. It is also personal. The heart's desires shape the mind's conclusions far more than we often care to admit. For the true believer, the sovereignty of God is non-negotiable; for the opportunist, it is acceptable only so long as it serves his personal desires. Tio boh ?​

Your compelling reflection highlights how deeply our earthly desires, socio-economic context, and personal circumstances shape our spiritual conclusions rather than pure theology. Why you such an intelligent man huh? I am.jealous!

 

[Dongyi]

Your compelling reflection highlights how deeply our earthly desires, socio-economic context, and personal circumstances shape our spiritual conclusions rather than pure theology. Why you such an intelligent man huh? I am.jealous!

You entrapped me again. 他媽的借刀殺人.

 

[DaoMa]

His struggle is not with theology but with unmet desire. At its core, his complaint is that God did not give him what he wanted.

Don't believe it? Consider this: if God had relented out of fear of losing a believer and given him a private property on Dunearn Road and a Lexus ES300h to drive around in, would he still be wrestling with these theological objections? Or would he instead be speaking condescendingly to HDB dwellers and commuters on public transport, had God lifted him from a low socioeconomic background into a life of affluence? I bet he would be praising God all day long.

That is the real test. If a person's view of God changes when his circumstances change, then the issue is not merely theological or philosophical. It is also personal. The heart's desires shape the mind's conclusions far more than we often care to admit. For the true believer, the sovereignty of God is non-negotiable; for the opportunist, it is acceptable only so long as it serves his personal desires. Tio boh ?​

I know 2 senior friends.

Senior Friend 1. Always go Bkk and pray at 4 face Buddha for luck. Then not long after his trip, he came back and struck 4D first prize 20B20S aka $100k. Then he become a firm believer of 4 face Buddha.

Senior Friend 2. He went to Bkk pray to 4 face Buddha too. But not for luck but for his cancer stricken wife. Not long after, his wife died. Then he gave up on 4 face Buddha.

So, if prayers to whatever God one believes in is answered, humans will say the God is real. If it isn't answered, then obviously they are not going to continue to believe in it.

Correct?

 

[DaoMa]

His struggle is not with theology but with unmet desire. At its core, his complaint is that God did not give him what he wanted.

Don't believe it? Consider this: if God had relented out of fear of losing a believer and given him a private property on Dunearn Road and a Lexus ES300h to drive around in, would he still be wrestling with these theological objections? Or would he instead be speaking condescendingly to HDB dwellers and commuters on public transport, had God lifted him from a low socioeconomic background into a life of affluence? I bet he would be praising God all day long.

That is the real test. If a person's view of God changes when his circumstances change, then the issue is not merely theological or philosophical. It is also personal. The heart's desires shape the mind's conclusions far more than we often care to admit. For the true believer, the sovereignty of God is non-negotiable; for the opportunist, it is acceptable only so long as it serves his personal desires. Tio boh ?​

The modern Prosperity Christianity works in the same way. It is called the "Seed-Faith" Exchange. Followers are encouraged to "sow a seed"—which means making donations to religious causes or televangelist ministries—with the expectation that God will multiply this money and return it as financial abundance.

So if after a financial donation a so called "true believer" gets a good job that pays well and good bonuses, he or she will believe that it is because he or she believes in the true God and hence, all other religions are erroneous and false.

Correct?

 

[Dongyi]

The modern Prosperity Christianity works in the same way. It is called the "Seed-Faith" Exchange. Followers are encouraged to "sow a seed"—which means making donations to religious causes or televangelist ministries—with the expectation that God will multiply this money and return it as financial abundance.

So if after a financial donation a so called "true believer" gets a good job that pays well and good bonuses, he or she will believe that it is because he or she believes in the true God and hence, all other religions are erroneous and false.​

Correct?

If God created man, then man's belief does not determine God's reality. Yet man's desires often determine which god he chooses to believe in and shape the image of that god he follows. Tio boh ?

有奶的便是娘

An opportunist praises God as a baby cries for milk - not out of love, but out of expectation. The baby knows that crying brings his mother's care; the opportunist believes that praise will bring him what he desires. When the baby gets what he wants, he learns to trust his method. The baby has no vocabulary to describe that trust, but the adult gives it a name: faith. ​

 

[DaoMa]

If God created man, then man's belief does not determine God's reality. Yet man's desires often determine which god he chooses to believe in and shape the image of that god he follows. Tio boh ?

有奶的便是娘

An opportunist praises God as a baby cries for milk - not out of love, but out of expectation. The baby knows that crying brings its mother's care; the opportunist believes that praise will bring him what he desires. When the baby gets what he wants, he learns to trust his mother. The baby has no vocabulary to describe that trust, but the adult gives it a name: faith. ​

In other words... 见利忘义, 谁给好处就投靠谁?

Same with PAP's cunning vote buying CDC/GSTV voucher schemes?

 

[Dongyi]

In other words... 见利忘义, 谁给好处就投靠谁?

Same with PAP's cunning vote buying CDC/GSTV voucher schemes?

CB, CDC/GSTV is very addictive one.

 

[lianbeng]

Numb and broken . This religion is toxic​

I am done with christianity and with Jesus. I hate him depise him and I fear him extremely. I hate that is always live a life of pure misery and unhappiness and yet you have to worship me through it or you will be tortured eternally. Carry your cross and follow me. I DONT WANT TO STUPID MAN.

You are born in this world without your consent I never asked to be born at all and I regret being born ( even though I never had a saying ) . Then you have to obey all his rules no matter the cost and even love him on the process . Why I would love someone who forces me to suffer? And not only that he will test me to see if the faith is real. Oh but the reward is inifinite they say. Keep your fucking heaven and let me rot on my grave.I dont want to worship him my abuser and torturer. Not even as a Christian I wanted heaven not at all it seemed boring now I see it as a celestial North Korea where you cant leave from and you are surrounded by other christians. YAY . And if you dont obey you are going to be tortured eternally . The choice is yours . What an amazing options.

Some even say that heaven will be just staring at God eternally. AMAZING . Give me wealth and a woman that truly loves me instead and let me rot on my grave at the end of my days instead of taking me up there.

God has killed millions and millions of people and nobody cares at all. He flooded the earth commanded rape and genocide on the Old Testament and will torture people for the whole eternity and people praise him and cheer him. I honestly think in most cases is survival instinct they dont wanna be on the losing team. Its like the jews that helped the nazis to hunt other jews just to survive some weeks.

Its a fucking abusive relationship people should notice it: ( the three abrahamic religions are toxic)

- You are broken and dont deserve anything good

- You are nothing without me

- You should forsake everything all the time for me

- Have you got any idea of how much I sacrificed for you?

- If you leave me I will make your life a living hell.

- I dont want people or things to come between us

- I love you I truly do but if you dont love me back....

- Look at what you made me do

- Come here to worship me eternally.

I hate him so much if I ever stand before him on judgement day and he says : I am going to send you to hell eternally .Do you have any previous wish? Yes tyrant let me attack you and break your bones in your human form. Its an abusive relationship I dont know how we are so blind. The Bible says we are dirty broken people that our good works are filthy rags. Why even bother? At your best you wont ever be enough for the wrong person. Get lost Jesus . The only reason for which I was a christian was to avoid hell I came to the faith when I stumbled on a video of r3alism talking about hell an how painful it was going to be. I hate Jesus for creating me and I wish I was never born or I was aborted . I wont bring kids into this world so they have to fear hell or suffer the christian life. Jesus is my lord and saviour some people say well for me he is my abuser and torturer. I dont want heaven not even for free I just wanna rot on my grave I dont wanna be with you Jesus you are a tyrant. This stupid religion gave me OCD anxiety and now I wanna kill myself but since I am already going to be tortured eternally I might leave on a grand final. I will spend my whole life trying to debunk this toxic religion

lianbeng says, "May God have mercy and grace on him."

 

[DaoMa]

CB, CDC/GSTV is very addictive one.

See lah...you dissect the Redditer post until Reddit mods removed the post

 

[syed putra]

I am done with christianity and with Jesus. I hate him depise him and I fear him extremely. I hate that is always live a life of pure misery and unhappiness and yet you have to worship me through it or you will be tortured eternally. Carry your cross and follow me. I DONT WANT TO STUPID MAN.

Guy is seeking the right path. Away from the evil of organised religion. Of subjugation. Forced assimilation. Of endless brain washing. Of nonsense. If he is sincere, God is very close. He can seek guidance from Him.

 

[Dongyi]

See lah...you dissect the Redditer post until Reddit mods removed the post ​

There are 2 ways to seek an answer: ask with humility because you don't know, or pick a fight with the person who does and hope they'll educate you for free while you get to keep your pride intact.

The Redditor clearly belongs to the latter camp. It's essentially 孔明借箭 - provoking someone into giving you exactly what you wanted all along.​