Chitchat Ho Ching dishing out new advice!

1. Mdm Ho is right in declaring that modern Singapore began in 1819 under Sir Stamford Raffles. She did not deny the existence of this red dot on the map that existed since planet Earth began. The keyword is 'MODERN'


2. During the 11th century or even far back ANCIENT times, when Human population was small, many more adventurous sought to stake out claims on little inhabited land masses. However, the realities are that one or a society can only defend what one owns or wants. Failure to do so would ensure others whom have better talents and might will just take over.


3. In such times, the existing powerful nations were sea-faring, such as Spain, France, England and even China, seeking for RICHES and Dominance of other landmasses. By the 18th century, England - a small island nation - ruled the World, thru its religion, talents, might and democratic system of Rule of Laws, and reaped wealth far far beyond their means from the lush fertile valleys of Asia.


4. If it had not been England, it would had been Spain or France that would rule Asia, and worse, leave no system of Rule of Law, infrastructure, security, etc, etc and critically a common trade lingo used Worldwide unlike the Brits that left a legacy for the World, including even USA.

We Singaporeans may had ended up speaking French, like the Vietnamese whom had been horrifically exploited by France and abandoned after WW2.


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Our ancient and colonial past will never be denied, as there are good and bad with such systems, and can never be hidden or re-written as based upon ancient records, archeological studies and even physical evidences such as the Hindu SriVijaya empire that ruled Indonesia from Palembang since 7th Century and empire remnants left in Bali, or the lives of the Han Chinese Ming Dynasty descendants in Malaysia.

ULTIMATELY, Singapore IS an INDEPENDENT Nation now, and we TAKE CONTROL over our own DEMOCRATIC destiny, and NOT upon the fate that other nations sought to determine for us.


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Can dig more at Fort Canning…British demolished a lot ancient relic in SG to facilitate the fishing village fairy tales

Many forgotten Raffles did not field work when he work at Indon prior to his expedition to find SG…how this AMDK Clerk convince his bosses to spend millions in today to fund his expedition if Raffles did not produce any solid evidence?
 
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The early 17th century Malay literary work Sejarah Melayu (Malay Annals) records that Kota Gelanggi lies on the upper reaches of the Johor River with a main fort made of black stone (or Kota Batu Hitam in Malay). "Kota Gelanggi" may derive from the Malay mispronunciation of the Thai word Ghlong-Keow or "Box of Emeralds", hence in Malay, Perbendaharaan Permata (Treasury of Jewels). Ancient Tamil inscriptions state that a city was raided in 1025 by South Indian Chola Dynasty conqueror Rajendra Chola Iafter he had destroyed the Malay Kingdom of Gangga Negara. The latter is generally equated with the ruins and ancient tombs that can still be seen in Beruas district in the state of Perak. Old European maps of the Malay Peninsula show the location of a city known as Polepi at the southern tip of the Malay Peninsula.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kota_Gelanggi#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a>

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Speculation on the Johor site was published in a 2004 paper entitled The "Lost City" of Kota Gelanggiby Raimy Che-Ross, an independent researcher.

The paper received wide coverage in the Malaysian media. In 2006, Khalid Syed Ali, Curator of Archaeology in the Department's Research and Development Division, said a team of government appointed researchers had carried out a month-long 'study' in July 2005 but found no trace of the "Lost City".<a Khalid later added that the department does not categorically deny that it exists, only that research carried out until now had not found any evidence of its existence.

Three elder Orang Asli headmen from the Linggiu Dam area nonetheless insist that the city exists; according to Tuk Batin Abdul Rahman (85), "the city is very large, I have seen it myself because it was located near my village. I estimate its fort to be approximately forty feet square, with three holes like windows along its walls", adding that the area was formerly his home and that of fifty other Orang Asli families, before they were moved out by the British due to the Communist threat in the late 1940s–50s.

He further said that he had first stumbled across the fort in the 1930s, while foraging for jungle produce. Tuk Batin Abdul Rahman's statements were independently verified by Tuk Batin Daud, 60 and Tuk Batin Adong, 58, who added that their people had visited the site on numerous previous occasions and had seen the black stone walls themselves.
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Fishing village can afford to build walled structures in ulu forest deep in Johor Jungle??
 
ohhh no, is her retirement going to be commenting on different topics? you mean we have to put up with hearing her (I don't have to listen) for more years?
 
if she were to give all her ill-gotten gains and past multimillion dollar salaries and bonuses to her former colonial master the brits, i would believe her bs.
 
1. We this generation must NEVER JUDGE our ancients and ancestors thru modern lenses, as they had lived in a far far different ERA than us. It's complex and yet simple, thru a simple example - we this generation VALUE toilet papers, for hygiene purposes, but our ancestors never had such, let alone Flushing Toilets. They had to ADAPT to the CIRCUMSTANCES of their ERA, based upon whatever they knew, TO SURVIVE, for themselves and loved ones.....

How much more CRITICAL issues of governances and social collective expenditures to grow and provide for education, infrastructure, healthcare, security, etc, etc?


2. There's a difference between respect and worship. We respect those whom had helped us, but we only go down on knees to our ALMIGHTY in worship.

It was in England, thru the Brits that ended the Divine Rights of Kings in 1689, with Parliament, made up of democratically elected leaders to LEGISLATE laws, to lead the DESTINY of its citizens, and not by any capricious minded prince or principalities. With such, it led to greater freedom and perceptions of progress, which even France learnt thru its own 1799 revolution.

3. Sir Stamford Raffles was one of such citizens, whom was empowered thru education and opportunities, to build a better World for Humankind. Colonization is never good, as it is exploitive, but Humanity was living in a different ERA, where might is right. At the least, the Brits did leave a better legacy than other powerful European Nations, such as exploitive France in Vietnam, gold hungry Spain in Philippines, and even China abandoned Malaysia when their rule became decadent thru redolent monarchial off-springs and conquered by the Manchus.

The Brits did left a legacy of Rule of Law, the common laws, that ensures all are protected and with Human Rights, that even the once colonized USA under England adopted.

Our fortunate ancestors were given rights to education, where they LEARNT about laws, administration, technologies, social sciences, governances and much more from the best Universities in England, and adapted such to build our Independent Nation of today, which without education, we would still live like aborigines with aboriginal mentalities such as the likes of Mr Syed Putra.....( just kidding...no offence meant, but hope you take a personalized joke from me, Mr Syed Putra...)


. On a more serious note, its about REALITIES......
 
1. We this generation must NEVER JUDGE our ancients and ancestors thru modern lenses, as they had lived in a far far different ERA than us. It's complex and yet simple, thru a simple example - we this generation VALUE toilet papers, for hygiene purposes, but our ancestors never had such, let alone Flushing Toilets. They had to ADAPT to the CIRCUMSTANCES of their ERA, based upon whatever they knew, TO SURVIVE, for themselves and loved ones.....

How much more CRITICAL issues of governances and social collective expenditures to grow and provide for education, infrastructure, healthcare, security, etc, etc?


2. There's a difference between respect and worship. We respect those whom had helped us, but we only go down on knees to our ALMIGHTY in worship.

It was in England, thru the Brits that ended the Divine Rights of Kings in 1689, with Parliament, made up of democratically elected leaders to LEGISLATE laws, to lead the DESTINY of its citizens, and not by any capricious minded prince or principalities. With such, it led to greater freedom and perceptions of progress, which even France learnt thru its own 1799 revolution.

3. Sir Stamford Raffles was one of such citizens, whom was empowered thru education and opportunities, to build a better World for Humankind. Colonization is never good, as it is exploitive, but Humanity was living in a different ERA, where might is right. At the least, the Brits did leave a better legacy than other powerful European Nations, such as exploitive France in Vietnam, gold hungry Spain in Philippines, and even China abandoned Malaysia when their rule became decadent thru redolent monarchial off-springs and conquered by the Manchus.

The Brits did left a legacy of Rule of Law, the common laws, that ensures all are protected and with Human Rights, that even the once colonized USA under England adopted.

Our fortunate ancestors were given rights to education, where they LEARNT about laws, administration, technologies, social sciences, governances and much more from the best Universities in England, and adapted such to build our Independent Nation of today, which without education, we would still live like aborigines with aboriginal mentalities such as the likes of Mr Syed Putra.....( just kidding...no offence meant, but hope you take a personalized joke from me, Mr Syed Putra...)


. On a more serious note, its about REALITIES......

give it a rest. the cunt has no brain
 
Fishing village can afford to build walled structures in ulu forest deep in Johor Jungle??
The fishing village has always been there since the early days even till the modern days.

It is usually the poorer ones who do fishing for a living.

The rich ones built their kingdom in the city
 
1. Our island since ancient times had ALWAYS been a fishing village till Sir Stamford Raffles arrived and with his education and opportunities in life, saw MORE than a mere fishing village that Singapore was.


2. It's about science and technology. In ancient times, right up to the 15th century. the shipping industry was non-existent in Asia. Most ships or boats were mere Skiffs - flat bottom hull transports that could sail right up to the shorelines to transport goods. Even the Ming Dynasty vast Armada of Cheng Ho fleets were flat bottom boats. The disadvantages were many, such as such boats can only carry limited personnel and goods, let alone gold and silver....


3.Furthermore, with Asia being a lush and fertile valley, there was little trade or tech needed. Even nearby forests would provide wood for cooking and homes or even boats, jungle fowls aplenty, etc. The only trade that was conducted by MOST, not the ancient elites whom traded gold from Palembang, Indonesia, were over excesses of rice and fowls produce from the self sufficient communities in villages, and often sold on certain days in a week thru designated MARKET spots....


4. With the advancements in science and tech in Europe in the 15th century, the ship building industries were abundant, to make ships with KEELS, that could stay afloat even with tons of gold and cargoes, rather than flat bottomed boats, for better productivity and survive in treacherous seas.

It only needs deep water ports that it could aligned with to dislodge or carry cargoes, than in the past where such ships would have to stay a FAR distance from the shore to prevent itself from being stuck or grounded on shallow waters, and pay extra for shallow bottomed boats to ferry their cargoes to shore.


5. As Singapore has FAR MORE numerous deep water ports, from Sembawang, to Labrador known as the golden gate to China ship captains, Keppel, Pasir Panjang, right up to even Jurong, such ships could sail right up to the shoreline ports, and with cranes, to lift FAR MORE cargoes than flat bottomed ships ever could.


6. Thus, Sir Stamford Raffles saw the opportunities and critically trade, which is the lifeblood of Humanity, developed our ports, as well as the necessary social and physical infrastructures to facilitate trades, such as education of intelligent commoners, subsidized or even given free education to build up its own civil services. warehouses, offices, roads, electrical supplies, etc, etc...
 
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If colonelism so good, why lky kick out the Brits? :thumbsdown:


1. Colonialism is never good. It is exploitive, making use of inhabitants to serve one or one's own country's National survival.

Inhabitants under colonialism have little rights, and are often subjugated and treated with less regard than one's own citizens in their natural home.

To prove a point, the Vietnamese under French colonialism were NEVER recognized as French citizens, and even more recent - Hongkongers were not UK citizens or even given full rights as Brit citizens, despite a century of hardwork by Hongkongers....


2. Our great Founding and forefathers were wise. They only accept what is good and rejected what is not necessary.

We Singapore do not even have a Queen's Counsel unlike UK, but our own Senior Counsels to determine necessary justice under our own Country's needs and circumstances. WE determine our own destiny and NOT the fate that others sought to determine for us.


3. Democracy is great, but only until it is TAKEN ADVANTAGE of by the more insidious others, and critically legislators of political parties whom seek to further their careers by playing to the gallery.

It is sad to see what UK is now today - soon to be an Islamic State, with its regressive 7th century form of justice that even the prophet Muhammad had never wanted for Arabs' progress, but only to see his ideals being twisted by the avarice on his death bed.......
 
Old Man studied their laws and wisely chose the Shyte Brits. He found the Nips too hard on themselves and the Americunts are just cunts
 
If colonelism so good, why lky kick out the Brits? :thumbsdown:
Lee was from the rich Peranakan families that have dominated this tiny island before 1819 and Lee also one of the Illuminati bloodlines

They were the early settlers next to the malay natives. Chinese coolies were only needed when they started to further develop the tiny island
 
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