How many Parliamentary seats did Workers Party & other opposition parties contested for, & yet DARED to claim they represent the VOICE of Singapore?

[Willamshakespear]

A credible political party aims to be the next government, by fielding at least 80% of available Parliamentary seats, so they, with their majority when won, would be able to make changes within government. There were 97 seats that was available, including walkover constituencies held by the current ruling party whereby no other opposition party contested in.

Workers Party only contested for 26 seats & lost 16 seats. Need I go on for the rest of the other opposition parties?

And INCREDIBLY, those opposition party figures claimed that based upon their personal election vote count in just the FEW constituencies they contested in, it signifies SINGAPOREAN CITIZENS sentiments????

Worse, they DARED to comment on govt's economic & even foreign policy, when they are NOT the govt nor have the numbers to make any significant change, except to collect $15,000/mth from taxpayers as MPs???

They & their supporters may be able to fool the naive, but Singaporeans are not fools.

 

[searcher1]

There are not enough quality candidate to represent WP in all GRC/SMC ... if they just field any Tom Dick Harry, speak with a local beng/lian accent
Again he/she to be ridicule by the masses, laugh at & worse ... Meme created to cook them further. Any person who have standard will choose safe PAP

 

[sbfuncle]

A true oppie party ready to takeover as the gov will need to meet these 3 very basic criterias.

1. There can only be 1 opposition party with the same vision with many members I.e as many as pap. Preferably all with solid backgrounds and profile.
2. They must be able to speak fairly well in front of a crowd.
3. They must state clearly to the people what they intend to do and change after they takeover as gov. With supportive artifacts.

The current oppies are far from meeting the above 3 main points.

By being the voices of the people in parliament will not cause any changes to the policies that gov going to make. It will only cause delays due to arguments but it will still take place eventually .
I need not elaborate more on this as everyone has their own eyes to see - what has the oppies members in parliament did for sinkies so far for the past few decades?

Therefore I agree with you that the current oppies fight for is mainly the salary.

 

[sbfuncle]

A credible political party aims to be the next government, by fielding at least 80% of available Parliamentary seats, so they, with their majority when won, would be able to make changes within government. There were 97 seats that was available, including walkover constituencies held by the current ruling party whereby no other opposition party contested in.

Workers Party only contested for 26 seats & lost 16 seats. Need I go on for the rest of the other opposition parties?

And INCREDIBLY, those opposition party figures claimed that based upon their personal election vote count in just the FEW constituencies they contested in, it signifies SINGAPOREAN CITIZENS sentiments????

Worse, they DARED to comment on govt's economic & even foreign policy, when they are NOT the govt nor have the numbers to make any significant change, except to collect $15,000/mth from taxpayers as MPs???

They & their supporters may be able to fool the naive, but Singaporeans are not fools.

Just to add

By simply needing to leepresent the voices of the people, we actually doesn't need to elect a oppie party to do the job, be in grc or ncmp.

You just need a commoners educated uncle (like me) to go into parliament and give pap a hard time. I can be the voices of the commoners as much as the elected oppies. Foc.

 

[Willamshakespear]

There are not enough quality candidate to represent WP in all GRC/SMC ... if they just field any Tom Dick Harry, speak with a local beng/lian accent
Again he/she to be ridicule by the masses, laugh at & worse ... Meme created to cook them further. Any person who have standard will choose safe PAP

Thanks for your reply.

Realities are often painful to accept, more so for one whom lived under sheltered lives. But ultimately, one can hide under the pillow the whole night in fear or tears, but the sun will still rise the next day, to face challenges ahead & deal with realities, to survive & thrive.... or hide & starve....

Our founding fathers faced FAR worse than what any opposition figure of today who claims to be the voice of Singaporeans. They had to deal with much - England WhiteHall parliamentarians, their secret service, Malaysian racial supremacists, Maoist agents, etc. They did great & gave us our todays.

No offence meant to the newly approved & appointed Opposition Leader Mr Pritam Singh of Workers Party. What had he actually done to uplift lives over the past 5 yrs holding that appointment & earning $30,000/mth salary paid by taxpayers.

Did he managed to UNITE the various opposition party figures to challenge the incumbent?

Did he even had any meaningful manifesto that could inspire unite voters, let alone worthy candiates, to choose his party, as well as the task to challenge the entire 97 Parliamentary seats available, not on mere hot air BUT facts & figures with proven data? So much more would have to be questioned by his rabid supporters & voters.....

Fortunately, at least one opposition party DARED speak out about opposition unity - that such exists not here in Singapore, thanks to the greedy & the inept opposition party figures....

Thus, voters of Workers Party, as well as Singaporean taxpayers paying $30,000/mth for such appointment, will have to wonder why they are paying for a Jiakliaobee supposed OPPOSITION Leader & failure in Parliament....

I had spoken more than I had intended. My apologies to anyone offended.

 

[sbfuncle]

Thanks for your reply.

Realities are often painful to accept, more so for one whom lived under sheltered lives. But ultimately, one can hide under the pillow the whole night in fear or tears, but the sun will still rise the next day, to face challenges ahead & deal with realities, to survive & thrive.... or hide & starve....

Our founding fathers faced FAR worse than what any opposition figure of today who claims to be the voice of Singaporeans. They had to deal with much - England WhiteHall parliamentarians, their secret service, Malaysian racial supremacists, Maoist agents, etc. They did great & gave us our todays.

No offence meant to the newly approved & appointed Opposition Leader Mr Pritam Singh of Workers Party. What had he actually done to uplift lives over the past 5 yrs holding that appointment & earning $30,000/mth salary paid by taxpayers.

Did he managed to UNITE the various opposition party figures to challenge the incumbent?

Did he even had any meaningful manifesto that could inspire unite voters, let alone worthy candiates, to choose his party, as well as the task to challenge the entire 97 Parliamentary seats available, not on mere hot air BUT facts & figures with proven data? So much more would have to be questioned by his rabid supporters & voters.....

Fortunately, at least one opposition party DARED speak out about opposition unity - that such exists not here in Singapore, thanks to the greedy & the inept opposition party figures....

Thus, voters of Workers Party, as well as Singaporean taxpayers paying $30,000/mth for such appointment, will have to wonder why they are paying for a Jiakliaobee supposed OPPOSITION Leader & failure in Parliament....

I had spoken more than I had intended. My apologies to anyone offended.

You need not have to apologise when you are speaking the facts.

I shared exactly the same view for this as a neutral person.
I'm neither a oppie or a pap supporter.
I always live wisely with facts and a very clear unbiased mind.

 

[syed putra]

Elections are just for show. Did you see any billionaires queuing to vote. They get their demands met without voting.

 

[bigozt]

Any talented farkers like LHY, TCB, KJ, Dr T, etc care to close ranks with WP? Or all want to be Indian Cheefs allow Pappies to pick them off one by one?

WP represents those who do not have good representation where they live.

Changi-Pasir Ris have to put up with Desmond of SDA for example, or Sembawang need to put up with Mad Dog Chee. KNNBCCB.

There is nothing stopping one from emailing bright ideas to Pritam and co.

The sooner Sinkie goto real two parties, the better. SDP, NSP, PAR, RDU, PSP etc. should call it a day and dissolve.

 

[birdie69]

Any talented farkers like LHY, TCB, KJ, Dr T, etc care to close ranks with WP? Or all want to be Indian Cheefs allow Pappies to pick them off one by one?

WP represents those who do not have good representation where they live.

Changi-Pasir Ris have to put up with Desmond of SDA for example, or Sembawang need to put up with Mad Dog Chee. KNNBCCB.

There is nothing stopping one from emailing bright ideas to Pritam and co.

The sooner Sinkie goto real two parties, the better. SDP, NSP, PAR, RDU, PSP etc. should call it a day and dissolve.

On the other hand, sinkies rejected the better candidates such as Michael Tng, Eileen Chong, Andre Low, CSJ, LMW, which was very discouraging to attract real good candidates to join 在野党 (I prefer not to use opposition party).
Everyone might want to take a closer look at the PAP's back benches again and compare with the above 5 mentioned.

 

[sbfuncle]

On the other hand, sinkies rejected the better candidates such as Michael Tng, Eileen Chong, Andre Low, CSJ, LMW, which was very discouraging to attract real good candidates to join 在野党 (I prefer not to use opposition party).
Everyone might want to take a closer look at the PAP's back benches again and compare with the above 5 mentioned.

I believe LMW got leejected now becos of his sort of poor defensive and attacking power in the parliament.
Is not easy to leebate so many pap members alone.
But IMHO he needs to polish up his attacking skills. He needs to be more aggressive to deal with bullies.
When people are rude to him, including the speakers, he need not show any form of kindness back. He should at times tell the speakers not to interrupt while he was speaking.
Eg He could have told the speaker, becos of your interruption, I couldn't finished my statement. Now tell me who is the one wasting the parliament precious time?
The public can see those beedios de woh.

 

[sbfuncle]

I believe LMW got leejected now becos of his sort of poor defensive and attacking power in the parliament.
Is not easy to leebate so many pap members alone.
But IMHO he needs to polish up his attacking skills. He needs to be more aggressive to deal with bullies.
When people are rude to him, including the speakers, he need not show any form of kindness back. He should at times tell the speakers not to interrupt while he was speaking.
Eg He could have told the speaker, becos of your interruption, I couldn't finished my statement. Now tell me who is the one wasting the parliament precious time?
The public can see those beedios de woh.

And while he was attacked by canto leng for those Andy lau quotes, he might not be able to throw the bomb back at him while canto leng was speaking.
But he should leebute back once he got the chance to do so.
There are many ways to deal with canto leng such fucker.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Thanks all for contributing to this thread.

The main point of this thread is that in Parliament, one or a minor few opposition party members proposal, even if one is from Harvard University, WILL NOT ONLY be challenged by the other 87 ruling party parliamentarians, but also the Civil Service whom are the ones who will have to look into the details of a proposal from ALL angles before any decision can even be made when presented to Parliament for enactment, & such will take time.

Also, there is the Party Whip to consider, which ALL political parties have, from the ruling party to Workers Party to National Solidarity Party, whereby each member is to adhere strictly to accepted consensus party doctrine, discipline & principles.....

Therefore, if an opposition political party is make changes in all aspect of National life, they would have to take over the govt thru elections. Just 10 opposition members are merely noises, more so if their proposals had NOT been well thought out from EVERY perspective & angle.

In order to have a credible opposition party to take over governance of Singapore:-

a) It must have a leader or a good team of leaders. A political leader needs not be a professor or a know it all. INSTEAD, He MUST be a capable ORGANIZER, to plan, to motivate & lead his troops.


b)It will need a clear mandate, akin to a new Constitution that appeals to ALL citizens.


c) It will need FINANCES.

I thank Mr Syed Putra for showing us how Msia Mahathir did it when he broke from UMMNO to form his own political party. He created legal corporations for finances to oil his political machinery - from grassroots volunteers to leaders - to ensure that each of them would have enough to eat & put food on the table while the leg work is being done YEARS before elections.


d) The team that is to stand for elections will have to be CREDIBLE people - education is a must & most will have trust in education, as it is not just a mark of intellect, but a distinction of someone whom is hardworking & DISCIPLINE enough to slogged it out for years to achieve a goal - the degree & be gainfully employed.

Others in the party whom are hardworking but may not have the best Uni degrees need not be disappointed. With a changeover of govt, the civil service will need to be overhauled & filled with loyal staff, & if proven capable in leadership abilities, they would still stand a chance for higher appointments in the State.

While it is comprehensible that the ruling party will grab the best of Uni grads from NUS, however there ARE est 20,000 grads per year. To fill the Parliamentary seats of 97, a political party only needs a 100 of the best of them.

Having a good heart is not enough. Any one can claim that they have a good heart, but none can see thru one's hidden heart. more so for political leadership positions as it concerns not just a company size of staff, but the entire Nation of 5million plus....It is by proven good ACTIONS that one is respected, & such take times to build up through daily interactions, not overnite.

These are just my musings & opinions. None needs to read it anyway...