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Serious Kiev vs Moscow! Showdown! (2022)

Would you defend Singapore like these 13 brave Ukrainian soldiers?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • No

    Votes: 18 85.7%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

winners

Alfrescian
Loyal
You totally missed the plot. Of course, ordinary people are on the losing end. That's always the case. Oil prices rose over 30% during Iraq war and there wasn't much inflation then. I bet you have no complaints because people from the big club told you Iraq have "WMD", which by the way was never found. And also oil prices was already on the rise before this war.
You should be looking at who are the people benefiting from it rather than who are the people losing out. Come on, you are a winner! Think like one! Show some wisdom. I just saw people calling you Uncle. I m looking up to you for guidance now on, don't disappoint me. ok?
And also, it won't be long before these people uses this as a reason to push certain agenda. You see some countries calling against war in Ukraine but deep inside they wanted it to happen more than anyone else.
Trying to talk big here. So, it shows you have no concern for the ordinary people? You are so selfish and self-centered. He who laughs last, laughs best. The following few months will reveal the truth.

I know Ukraine is a sacrificial lamb. NATO will not fight for them because they are afraid of going into a direct conflict with Putin and hence a WW3 using nuclear bombs. Otherwise, why would they had intervened during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? I agree that they are ball-less, which I have already said before.

Seeing the suffering on the civilians in Ukraine currently and still applauding the Russians, it is humanely impossible for you to be living as a human being. And don't tell me every piece of news from the Western medias are fake.
 
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saynotomsm

Alfrescian
Loyal
Trying to talk big here. So, it shows you have no concern for the ordinary people? You are so selfish and self-centered. He who laughs last, laughs best. The following few months will reveal the truth.

I know Ukraine is a sacrificial lamb. NATO will not fight for them because they are afraid of going into a direct conflict with Putin and hence a WW3 using nuclear bombs. Otherwise, why would they had intervened during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? I agree that they are ball-less, which I have already said before.
Pointing out who the real criminals are isn't it a show of my concern to the general public?
By the way, you haven't thank me for my effort sharing with you about NASA hoax on moon landing. Instead now you accuse me of talking big. What an ungrateful person you are.
 

micromachine

Lieutenant General
Loyal
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glockman

Old Fart
Asset
What appeasement… Putin is no fool… a few handshakes and fake smiles mean nothing to him. When can these western nations understand you need concrete actions
I think they sort of patronised him, but there is also a general mistrust of him. After all, he's ex-KGB. Also, the shorter the man, the least trustworthy he is!:biggrin:
 

Loofydralb

Alfrescian
Loyal
Don't you just love it that Russia is wiping the floor with Ukraine troops? The going is slow because Russia is desperately avoiding civilians. Four more weeks and it will be over unless Russia wants to wait for those idiots volunteering from the west.
 

nightsafari

Alfrescian
Loyal
I was very young and brain washed (like most forummers here) when US bombed Baghdad, Afghanistan, etc. This Russian Military Intervention is the first war that caught my attention. It is an eye opener to how war starts and how it could have been ended easily. We all know Putin’s main contention is NATO’s relentless expansion with total disregard of others. Till this day, after 20 years of Russian complaints, attempts to engage, negotiate, 10 days of war… how has the west responded? Not an inch of compromise! So what else can Russia do? Bomb the hell out of these assholes. I am in full support of this military intervention and Putin is a hero. China will hold its neutral stand firmly and will not be coerced into the gang rape of Russia.
as a fellow Malaysian, I take it you'd rather be arguing with someone than not have someone to argue with at all.

So firstly, when the US invaded the ME back in the day, I will gladly tell you I lost a lot of superficial friends when I loudly and fervently protested that godforsaken invasion. In a forum like this, I got flamed left, right and centre for calling out the US. Might I remind you that a good number of Americans protested too. Check out no blood for oil.

Now though, you might wish to reconsider your stance. Whatever the West has done to Putin does not justify him inflicting harm on the Ukrainians. If your reasoning follows, you should call Putin a coward for picking on the most helpless and hapless of targets. He should bomb the West instead.
 

winners

Alfrescian
Loyal
Whatever the West has done to Putin does not justify him inflicting harm on the Ukrainians. If your reasoning follows, you should call Putin a coward for picking on the most helpless and hapless of targets. He should bomb the West instead.
Unfortunately, Ukraine becomes the sacrificial lamb for both the East and West. Right from the beginning when I commented on this war, I had already said that Zelensky should have surrendered and less bloodshed for his people because without the support of the West, the US and NATO, it's a forsaken truth that they cannot win against Russia as they have more advanced weapons and much more manpower.

Let Bloodymir Putin take over Ukraine. Those Ukrainians who don't like to join Russia, probably they can go to their neighboring Western countries as refugees and eventually to seek for asylum. Continue with the sanctions, but I think Russia will still pull it through because he can turn to the Tiongs for support. After a few years later, Bloodymir Putin will once again have his blood on Moldova (being a non-NATO member) and then the Baltic states. Hopefully at that time, NATO will not be a coward as like today. The eventual Nuclear war will still have to occur unless Bloodymir Putin will die before he could get his hands on the aforementioned countries.
 

nightsafari

Alfrescian
Loyal
Unfortunately, Ukraine becomes the sacrificial lamb for both the East and West. Right from the beginning when I commented on this war, I had already said that Zelensky should have surrendered and less bloodshed for his people because without the support of the West, the US and NATO, it's a forsaken truth that they cannot win against Russia as they have more advanced weapons and much more manpower.

Let Bloodymir Putin take over Ukraine. Those Ukrainians who don't like to join Russia, probably they can go to their neighboring Western countries as refugees and eventually to seek for asylum. Continue with the sanctions, but I think Russia will still pull it through because he can turn to the Tiongs for support. After a few years later, Bloodymir Putin will once again have his blood on Moldova (being a non-NATO member) and then the Baltic states. Hopefully at that time, NATO will not be a coward as like today. The eventual Nuclear war will still have to occur unless Bloodymir Putin will die before he could get his hands on the aforementioned countries.
Largely agree with your opinion. But he won't bother with Moldova. Means nothing to him. Also there will be no nuclear war. Putin of all people will not start one. That is something that dumbass Nato cannot see. Whatever happened and whatever reason this is an invasion. If they were neo-nazis in ukraine does it justify an invasion? garbage. Putin just wants to be Tsar again. Good luck to him. He has set back Ukraine 50 years and Russia 30 years. All while the West is untouched.
 

ginfreely

Alfrescian
Loyal
as a fellow Malaysian, I take it you'd rather be arguing with someone than not have someone to argue with at all.
You told whoami that you are ex Malaysian and now you said you are Malaysian. That’s why never can trust any Malaysian claiming to be Singaporean until see the red passport. Now ownself busted your own lies just like Jeremy Quek aka Glockman aka cottonmouth busted own lies of he attacked me because I attacked him. You are a Malaysian liar bastard using evil filthy lies viciously attacking me a virgin as a slut whore mistress for years because you are a Malaysian that dislike me speaking the truth. Pui your filthy Malaysian whore mother phua cb!

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nightsafari

Alfrescian
Loyal
You told whoami that you are ex Malaysian and now you said you are Malaysian. That’s why never can trust any Malaysian claiming to be Singaporean until see the red passport. Now ownself busted your own lies just like Jeremy Quek aka Glockman aka cottonmouth busted own lies of he attacked me because I attacked him. You are a Malaysian liar bastard using evil filthy lies viciously attacking me a virgin as a slut whore mistress for years because you are a Malaysian that dislike me speaking the truth. Pui your filthy Malaysian whore mother phua cb!

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do you have your brain screwed on correctly? I never claimed I was ex. He decided for himself. Goddamn delusional.
 

SBFNews

Alfrescian
Loyal
You told whoami that you are ex Malaysian and now you said you are Malaysian. That’s why never can trust any Malaysian claiming to be Singaporean until see the red passport. Now ownself busted your own lies just like Jeremy Quek aka Glockman aka cottonmouth busted own lies of he attacked me because I attacked him. You are a Malaysian liar bastard using evil filthy lies viciously attacking me a virgin as a slut whore mistress for years because you are a Malaysian that dislike me speaking the truth. Pui your filthy Malaysian whore mother phua cb!

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Ya nice try. You must have misled him. @whoami this nightsafari guy said you ownself decided he is ex Malaysian.
@Leongsam
PLEASE DO THE NECESSARY. SHE'S DEFACING EVERY THREAD.
 

LordElrond

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
as a fellow Malaysian, I take it you'd rather be arguing with someone than not have someone to argue with at all.

So firstly, when the US invaded the ME back in the day, I will gladly tell you I lost a lot of superficial friends when I loudly and fervently protested that godforsaken invasion. In a forum like this, I got flamed left, right and centre for calling out the US. Might I remind you that a good number of Americans protested too. Check out no blood for oil.

Now though, you might wish to reconsider your stance. Whatever the West has done to Putin does not justify him inflicting harm on the Ukrainians. If your reasoning follows, you should call Putin a coward for picking on the most helpless and hapless of targets. He should bomb the West instead.
I broadly agree with you, war is bad… except that what happened in Ukraine is just another day to me… as it has been ongoing in Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Donetsk, etc for years and no one gave a flying fuck (yes I know you did). I am inclined to believe the Russians go at length to avoid civilians casualties and I’m appalled by the ongoing dehumanisation of the Russians accusing them of injuring civilians while they sang how precised the American bombings were. I would call Zelensky a coward for urging ordinary Ukrainian civilians to throw their flesh against Russian fires. As long as the powerful rogue nations continue their bullying ways, I would have to say, I don’t shed a tear for this war. Together the human race have a collective responsibility to stop the USA from their evil ways but unfortunately I see no remorse in most people. So until then… I would agree yes let’s help the Ukrainians get out of the god forsaken country but… Zelensky must die… USA need to stop their evil ways
 

nightsafari

Alfrescian
Loyal
I broadly agree with you, war is bad… except that what happened in Ukraine is just another day to me… as it has been ongoing in Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Donetsk, etc for years and no one gave a flying fuck (yes I know you did). I am inclined to believe the Russians go at length to avoid civilians casualties and I’m appalled by the ongoing dehumanisation of the Russians accusing them of injuring civilians while they sang how precised the American bombings were. I would call Zelensky a coward for urging ordinary Ukrainian civilians to throw their flesh against Russian fires. As long as the powerful rogue nations continue their bullying ways, I would have to say, I don’t shed a tear for this war. Together the human race have a collective responsibility to stop the USA from their evil ways but unfortunately I see no remorse in most people. So until then… I would agree yes let’s help the Ukrainians get out of the god forsaken country but… Zelensky must die… USA need to stop their evil ways
It's only another day only if we accept it as another day. We should protest loudly and strongly that none of this is acceptable. There is no right and wrong other than the suffering of innocent people. That is the only wrong.

I see no winners from the leadership here. Only self-interest and hypocrisy. Everyone needs to stop. The answer to US garbage is not invasion.
 
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