Kublai Khan did what Genghis could not—conquer China

[LaoTze]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/magazine/2020/03-04/kublai-genghis-khan-conquered-china/

Kublai Khan did what Genghis could not—conquer China
Leading the Mongols to defeat China, Kublai Khan fulfilled his grandfather's ambitions to rule one of history’s largest empires.

 

[laksaboy]

Thanks to the Mongols' conquest of China, the following incident happened:

 

[Narong Wongwan]

It’s this Cb mongol went to conquer China that’s why now the lanjiao Tiongs now claiming territories belong to them now.

 

[Papsmearer]

What kind of bullshit is this? KK could never have conquered China if his grandfather GK did not lay the foundations. Who united the tribes, turn them into a fear fighting force? It was GK. And the reason he did not conquer China himself was because he was already old by the time he did all this. KK inherited a trained and experienced army from his father and uncles, which was in turn developed by GK. Without GK laying the foundations, KK would have his ass handed to him by the chinese.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Ahhh... how did KK small army manged to win the war....

Technology.... sit on fast running horse shoot at soldier using maths trajectory method.

This is why China today must hv invent the best technology to hit back AMLG... 报仇雪恨...

 

[tanwahtiu]

How did BE managed to become Empire... fluke... Europeans divide the world who take where, and Pommies given flithy cheat India.... then poor Indian volunteered to join British army for peaputs pay... suddenly British hv millions of ahneh killed in war for nothing no share of glory of cut the shares...

 

[mojito]

Soon Loong will do what LKY could not - conquer all rebel constituencies and unite Singapore! SG Unite!

 

[syed putra]

Genghis Khan kicked jurchen jin dynasty South of yellow river after taking over beijing and killing all its inhabitants.
That was when he got the news the Muslims in the West killed his trade and diplomatic delegation in cold blood.
So China conquest was put on hold and the butcher of Islamic countries in the middle East started.
After all that was done. He was on his way back to conquer China when he died.

 

[LaoTze]

DON'T KILL MY ENVOYS

Don’t Kill the Messenger — Especially if He Comes from Genghis Khan

 

[sleaguepunter]

It’s this Cb mongol went to conquer China that’s why now the lanjiao Tiongs now claiming territories belong to them now.

Actually the ROC version of the China proper was the extend of 清朝 rule. It about 14m squares kilometers. Currently it about 9.6m square kilometers. CCP also using that but those lost to Russia they already signed treaty in the 90s to give up.

 

[sleaguepunter]

Genghis Khan kicked jurchen jin dynasty South of yellow river after taking over beijing and killing all its inhabitants.
That was when he got the news the Muslims in the West killed his trade and diplomatic delegation in cold blood.
So China conquest was put on hold and the butcher of Islamic countries in the middle East started.
After all that was done. He was on his way back to conquer China when he died.

He died during campaign against Xia dynasty.

 

[eatshitndie]

song china turtled themselves to sextinction when they could have sprung a han-era wu ti style offensive with ferghana horses in massive cavalry formations. han wu ti got it right by being offensive minded and strategically built up cavalry formations by the hundreds of thousands.

 

[Sideswipe]

surprising fact - the so-called military weak Song was the second longest Chinese dynasty at 319 years.

 

[syed putra]

song china turtled themselves to sextinction when they could have sprung a han-era wu ti style offensive with ferghana horses in massive cavalry formations. han wu ti got it right by being offensive minded and strategically built up cavalry formations by the hundreds of thousands.

Every mongol horsemen had several small ponies So If one dies, he had back up. And the dead pony can be eaten and not wasted.

 

[LaoTze]

DON'T KILL MY ENVOYS

Don’t Kill the Messenger — Especially if He Comes from Genghis Khan

 

[eatshitndie]

Every mongol horsemen had several small ponies So If one dies, he had back up. And the dead pony can be eaten and not wasted.

6.9 ponies.

 

[sleaguepunter]

surprising fact - the so-called military weak Song was the second longest Chinese dynasty at 319 years.

Song resisted for over 50+ years with no Cavalry while the mongols hordes overran large swaths of Middle East and Europe.

 

[sleaguepunter]

song china turtled themselves to sextinction when they could have sprung a han-era wu ti style offensive with ferghana horses in massive cavalry formations. han wu ti got it right by being offensive minded and strategically built up cavalry formations by the hundreds of thousands.

Song has no access to horses even since they lost the northern pasture lands to the barbarians. Especially the lost of 河套 to Xia kingdom was devastating.

 

[eatshitndie]

Song has no access to horses even since they lost the northern pasture lands to the barbarians. Especially the lost of 河套 to Xia kingdom was devastating.

they could have ganged up with xi xia (western xia; xia dynasty was the precursor to the shang dynasty), liao and jin to fight the mongols when xi xia was under onslaught by genghis. the fact that song was divided into northern and southern dynasties meant disunity and fractious war among the various kingdoms and empires, thus they had no foresight and intestinal fortitude to unite to destroy a greater threat. nonetheless, ferghana horses were already domesticated in song china then (they were treasured all over the tang empire before song), and song could have bred them like the han under wu ti did and built offensive armies instead of walls and forts at strategic river promontories. they were determined and adamant of turtling themselves when they knew the xi xia front was the best chance of defeating the mongols if they were to cum to the aid of the tanguts.

 

[sleaguepunter]

they could have ganged up with xi xia (western xia; xia dynasty was the precursor to the shang dynasty), liao and jin to fight the mongols when xi xia was under onslaught by genghis. the fact that song was divided into northern and southern dynasties meant disunity and fractious war among the various kingdoms and empires, thus they had no foresight and intestinal fortitude to unite to destroy a greater threat. nonetheless, ferghana horses were already domesticated in song china then (they were treasured all over the tang empire before song), and song could have bred them like the han under wu ti did and built offensive armies instead of walls and forts at strategic river promontories. they were determined and adamant of turtling themselves when they knew the xi xia front was the best chance of defeating the mongols if they were to cum to the aid of the tanguts.

They may have horses but unable to breed them large scale as there lack of pasture land. Even turf club need to let individual racing horse to run about every couple of days.
Although there north song and south song but they existed in two different time. The so call north and south was due to different location of capital. North was at Kaifeng, when Kaifeng overran and emperors captured by Jin, one of the emperor brother was outside when it happened. So he fled south and set up court in hangzhou. Both era call themselves 宋 but historians used north and south to differentiate the different eras. It still basically the same dynasty.