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Wunderfool

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I am shock to hear that - so control is like no control.

May I ask why do kiwis need guns? I think its not just me but the majority of the people that NZ is a very peaceful country with lots of greenery, nature, nice people its like heaven on earth so why the need for guns.

I thought too... but now I am stunned. If you think of NZ, the last thing on your mind is terrorism and war. Look at their beautiful nature.. serene lakes and rolling pastures. Is not that a reflection of the New Zealanders ... beautiful and peaceful people ?

On reflection, I reckon if there is no gun law in Singapore, this country too will be ravaged by extremists and madmen.
 

syed putra

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The Ottoman empire fell, the Arab Muslims lost two wars waged against Israel. Those 'Palestinians' have as much legitimate claim to the land as the ancient Romans who once invaded and occupied it.

I'm actually quite surprised at Israel's restraint in dealing with the Muslim scums.
Palestinians reacted the same way chinese in singapore reacting to mass emigrstion of ceca indians.palestinians are not all muslims. The enture middles east is a mixture of various faith, like syria snd lebanon.
If the europeans like jews so much, put them in their own country. After all, they were mostly from europe.
 
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syed putra

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Then how come it is okay for moslems to destroy kafir cities and countries, kill kafir women and children? History books are full of records of moslems repeatedly invading christian, hindu, buddhist, animist territories for loot, plunder and imperialism simply because they are of different faith?
A good defence is a good offence,
 

Devil Within

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Judging from your ignorance that race and religion are not the same thing, your tendency to equate one with the other, and your mindless obsession with turning everything into the two simplistic reducibles of "IQ and race", please explain how the the Golden Age of Islam between the 8th to 13th/14th Century where Science, Literature, Mathematics, Philosophy, Astronomy, etc could not only take place, but flourish for 700+ years?

The "Golden age of Islam" has nothing to do with Islam but the fall of golden age of Islam has everything to do with Islam.

Islam destroyed its own "Golden Age" - Neil deGrasse Tyson & Steven Weinberg

Sam Harris on the so called 'Golden Age' of Islam
 
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Devil Within

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Neil DeGrasse Tyson - The Islamic Golden Age: Naming Rights

Renown Astrophysicist Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson explains what went wrong with Islam.
 

Xisiqomelir

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Winning battles and winning the wars are two different things. US won a lot of battles in Vietnam, however they still lost the whole war. The Mongols conquered almost half the world, but they could not hold onto the territories. The West is "Able" to conquer the Muslim world if they want. And the Muslim would "Want" to conquer the West but was incapable to do so. In fact the Muslim today were already being "conquered" by the West - economically and psychologically. Even the East Asia are not able to compete with the West at the moment. However, the future might be different as we speak. But I am sure the Muslim will still not be able to overtake the West in the foreseeable future …. IQ and RACE …. play a part.

Ok, here's winning a war and holding on to a Christian territory for you:

Tariq ibn Zayid invaded Hispania for Walid the 1st of the Ummayyad Caliphate in 711. They stayed in place for nearly 800 years until Ferdinand and Isabella reconquered Granada.

This happens the other way as well. The First Crusade defeated the Fatimid Caliphate and established the Kingdom of Jerusalem which lasted 200 years.

History ebbs and flows, sometimes one way, sometimes the other.

You seem to have your heart in the right place, but I strongly urge you to learn your history. Absolutist notions like "they can't ever" or "it's impossible for us to lose" weaken your thinking, not strengthen it. Accept all of history and consider every possible eventuality.
 

Froggy

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I am so touch by some very kind hearted people (although this is not in NZ)


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whoami

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Muslim are not capable to invade a Xtian country. There is a difference between "want" and "able".

Yes. We are incapable. We have no nuclear...no state of the art weapons like USA, UK, Israel. Tats why i want to know when was the last time a Muslim country attack, invade a xtian country? But for xtian country...they have been attacking and invading the ME for decades. As we are typing now they are still bombing and killing innocents.
 

glockman

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Yes. We are incapable. We have no nuclear...no state of the art weapons like USA, UK, Israel. Tats why i want to know when was the last time a Muslim country attack, invade a xtian country? But for xtian country...they have been attacking and invading the ME for decades. As we are typing now they are still bombing and killing innocents.
bro, a friend sent me this link, I can't really believe this is what your holy book teaches.

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-call-to-the-muslims-of-the-world/

The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to “fight the unbelievers” and “He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them” (9:14).


The Qur’an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193).
 

whoami

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bro, a friend sent me this link, I can't really believe this is what your holy book teaches.

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-call-to-the-muslims-of-the-world/

The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to “fight the unbelievers” and “He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them” (9:14).


The Qur’an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193).

Bro, the prophet was the only Muslim when he started preaching Islam to the pagans. As times goes by more embraced Islam. So tere were tons tons of enemies including Jews surrounding the Muslims. There were many hypocrites. Pretend to be Muslims but they were actually spies from the enemies. Muslims were more on the defensive. In war if u dont kill ur enemies how to win the war. Our prophet is not a merciless but a very compassionate leader. Even in battlefield the muslim soldiers were given proper guidance. Even during battlefield soldiers at all time have to bear in mind what the Prophet had instructed them.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-ali-habib/four-lessons-in-compassion_b_9302404.html

“Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy’s flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.”
 
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JI_Fled

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Quick release Mas Selamat from the ISD, give him guns and grenades, make him stand guard in the MUSI & mosques! Chief mosques security commissioner!
 

glockman

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Bro, the prophet was the only Muslim when he started preaching Islam to the pagans. As times goes by more embraced Islam. So tere were tons tons of enemies including Jews surrounding the Muslims. There were many hypocrites. Pretend to be Muslims but they were actually spies from the enemies. Muslims were more on the defensive. In war if u dont kill ur enemies how to win the war.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-ali-habib/four-lessons-in-compassion_b_9302404.html

“Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy’s flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.”
Thanks for your reply. But it seems the verses I have mentioned above do not really point to a defensive posture. It teaches an all out slaughter of Jews and Christians until no other religion is left except Islam. Those verses seem to be the main guiding principles that have caught hold of more and more muslims today, not those that teaches compassion, kindness and peaceful existence which you referred to.
 

syed putra

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Just for your thougts on how low the standards of islam has become.

Satanic And Kafir




The following is a really disgusting article about the Salafis condoning the rape of females who they classify as war captives. It is too disgusting so I will not be reproducing it here. You can click on the link if you wish to know more.


http://www.financetwitter.com/2015/08/disgusting-its-ibadah-its-halal-raping-a-child-pleases-the-god.html

Here are some pictures from that article. They look real enough. Rest assured that the systematic raping of non Muslim women 'as part of their satanic and kuffar religion' has been ongoing in the Middle East ever since these spawn of satan appeared.












Here is another report about some ISIS woman defending the Salafis raping non Muslim Yazidi women.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-wife-defends-rape-yazidi-14116726




Conclusion : There are some very sick people in this world who sadly claim to be 'muslims' when in actual fact they are not. They are satanic and they are kafir.

People who say that it is ok to rape women must be not only kafir but they are truly satanic. These people cannot be Muslims.

There are also some satanic people who say that it is ok to kill someone for apostasy or kill someone who 'insults' their religion.


Now, there will be quite a few among you who will agree with the salafis, that you can rape, have sex with and even sell the 'female captives of war' as sex slaves. Not only are you satanic and kafir but quite obviously your mothers did not know who were your real fathers.

None of these satanic teachings are found anywhere in the Quran
 

nightsafari

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Thanks for your reply. But it seems the verses I have mentioned above do not really point to a defensive posture. It teaches an all out slaughter of Jews and Christians until no other religion is left except Islam. Those verses seem to be the main guiding principles that have caught hold of more and more muslims today, not those that teaches compassion, kindness and peaceful existence which you referred to.

and hence the problem of using a complex, composite body of knowledge that is open to interpretation but with a low tolerance for dissent as a guide.

Here let me give you one. I am not much of an expert so maybe someone else can give the relevant quotations, but one of the first things I bumped into was that it's written that Muhammed was human and not to be deified. He was mortal and fallible and no son of god. But there are people who will issue death threats if they dare to reproduce an image of him without holy assent or something like that.
 

glockman

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and hence the problem of using a complex, composite body of knowledge that is open to interpretation but with a low tolerance for dissent as a guide.

Here let me give you one. I am not much of an expert so maybe someone else can give the relevant quotations, but one of the first things I bumped into was that it's written that Muhammed was human and not to be deified. He was mortal and fallible and no son of god. But there are people who will issue death threats if they dare to reproduce an image of him without holy assent or something like that.
It is complex because it is inconsistent in its teachings and supposedly teaches things like the earth is flat and the sun sets in a pond. Confused writers who didn't know better, because they lived in ancient times. With any "holy teachings", people will twist and interpret words to suit their agenda. No image of the prophet is allowed? Perhaps to add to Islam's allure and mystic?
 

Froggy

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Just for your thougts on how low the standards of islam has become.

Satanic And Kafir




The following is a really disgusting article about the Salafis condoning the rape of females who they classify as war captives. It is too disgusting so I will not be reproducing it here. You can click on the link if you wish to know more.


http://www.financetwitter.com/2015/08/disgusting-its-ibadah-its-halal-raping-a-child-pleases-the-god.html

Here are some pictures from that article. They look real enough. Rest assured that the systematic raping of non Muslim women 'as part of their satanic and kuffar religion' has been ongoing in the Middle East ever since these spawn of satan appeared.












Here is another report about some ISIS woman defending the Salafis raping non Muslim Yazidi women.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-wife-defends-rape-yazidi-14116726




Conclusion : There are some very sick people in this world who sadly claim to be 'muslims' when in actual fact they are not. They are satanic and they are kafir.

People who say that it is ok to rape women must be not only kafir but they are truly satanic. These people cannot be Muslims.

There are also some satanic people who say that it is ok to kill someone for apostasy or kill someone who 'insults' their religion.

Now, there will be quite a few among you who will agree with the salafis, that you can rape, have sex with and even sell the 'female captives of war' as sex slaves. Not only are you satanic and kafir but quite obviously your mothers did not know who were your real fathers.

None of these satanic teachings are found anywhere in the Quran

So WHAT THE FUCK are so called true Muslims doing about the satanic Muslims? Still protect them?
 
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