Serious [Malaysia] - Malay-Muslims will ‘run amok’ if ICERD ratified, Zahid warns

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Malay-Muslims will ‘run amok’ if ICERD ratified, Zahid warns

KAMPUNG GAJAH, Nov 18 — Umno president Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamid warned Putrajaya last night that the Malay-Muslim community will “run amok” to protest the Pakatan Harapan (PH) government’s pledge to ratify the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD).

Speaking in a protest held by the Perak chapter of Malay-Muslim groups coalition Ummah last night, Zahid said Umno and PAS leaders will mobilise “millions” of their members to the streets to protest the anti-discrimination human rights treaty next month.

“Don’t wait until the Malays run amok. But if our warning goes unheeded, Umno and PAS will unite.

“This is not a mere warning, don’t play if you don’t want the amok to happen.”

Thousands of protesters, even from different states such as Kedah, Kuala Lumpur, Kelantan and Terengganu, gathered at the Kampung Gajah taxi stand here to oppose the ICERD.

Among the politicians present were Umno supreme council member Datuk Seri Tajuddin Abdul Rahman, state PAS commissioner Razman Zakaria and state Umno chief Datuk Saarani Mohamad.

Zahid said both parties will join hands to oppose the ICERD by taking to the streets on December 8 in Kuala Lumpur.

“We have put aside all our political difference and united in the spirit of Malays and Muslims,” he added.

Malaysia is among the 14 countries in the world yet to accede to the ICERD, which has been ratified by numerous Muslim-majority countries, such as Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey and Jordan.

Ratifying the ICERD and five other United Nations’ core human rights conventions is part of the PH election manifesto, and last week, Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said Putrajaya is ready to hear public feedback on the matter.

Various legal experts, including the Malaysian Bar, have repeatedly stressed that the ratification would not in any way alter or affect the country’s Federal Constitution.

Despite this, groups, primarily comprising Malay-Muslim members, continue to oppose the government’s plan to formalise the convention, arguing that doing so will strip the Bumiputra community of their constitutional safeguards and privileges.

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https://sg.yahoo.com/news/malay-muslims-run-amok-icerd-001631012.html

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Oh no...the resident mudslimes will kpkb and say cinas r racists n should fuck back to ah tiong land. N worse thing is Islam is a peaceful religion... actions speak louder than words

 

[glockman]

m&ds are afraid they will be undermined. They themselves know for a fact they are an incompetent and lazy bunch and need to be given privileges to survive in this world. Fuck them all la.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

m&ds are afraid they will be undermined. They themselves know for a fact they are an incompetent and lazy bunch and need to be given privileges to survive in this world. Fuck them all la.

I waiting for the defence from the resident mudslimes.

 

[KuanTi01]

How come other more powerful Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia and closer to home, Indonesia have already ratified the ICERD? Malaysia m&ds crying the loudest!
They love to riot and create chaos don't they; whenever they don't get things done their way!

 

[songsongjurong]

why are bolehland bumis so afraid of this ICERD?


https://www.mccy.gov.sg/icerd

Signing the ICERD on 19 October 2015 represented our commitment to preserving a multiracial society where every person is equal before the law, regardless of race or religion. Ratification of the ICERD on 27 November 2017, legally binds Singapore to meeting our commitments to strive towards a society free from racial discrimination.

 

[syed putra]

m&ds are afraid they will be undermined. They themselves know for a fact they are an incompetent and lazy bunch and need to be given privileges to survive in this world. Fuck them all la.

Hullo! Malays maybe lazy and incompetent. But there were no starvation like what hsppened in clever and hard working china.

 

[whoami]

m&ds are afraid they will be undermined. They themselves know for a fact they are an incompetent and lazy bunch and need to be given privileges to survive in this world. Fuck them all la.

Some greedy cina had left Msia for good. But unhappy greedy lot 23% cina still remain. I really dont understand them. If they feel they r really discriminated why are they still staying put? China dont pracitise "discrimination". All treated fairly. I am very sure rich China would welcome them with open arms. Else go sinkieland. Very sure on the spot get pink ic.

 

[JohnTan]

If they feel they r really discriminated why are they still staying put?

Because they are the real 'sons of the soil'. They actually built the economy, while m&ds are as useful to jiuhu like pigs are useful to the quran.

 

[Semaj2357]

Hullo! Malays maybe lazy and incompetent. But there were no starvation like what hsppened in clever and hard working china.

it's coz the chinks are over-populated and have to work hard or beg to put food on the table, else they die of starvation, plain and simple fact of life. on the other hand, the m&ds cling on to their bumi rights and expect the govt to house, clothe and feed them, perpetuating a vicious cycle of brain-dead, lazy and a bunch of tak-gunas

Because they are the real 'sons of the soil'. They actually built the economy, while m&ds are as useful to jiuhu like pigs are useful to the quran.

and if given perks, land, businesses, they don't know what to do with these and sell them to the tokays for a song - casting pearls before swine

 

[rushifa666]

Very strange. How come i always seee chjnese boss and malay worker there but they are better?

 

[JohnTan]

the m&ds cling on to their bumi rights and expect the govt to house, clothe and feed them, perpetuating a vicious cycle of brain-dead, lazy and a bunch of tak-gunas

I blame the problem squarely on the m&ds' state religion, islam.

Everywhere they go, they expect others to give them preferential treatment, special privileges, and to subsidize their religion. Their mosque and madrassahs spend a lot of the religious curriculum on their past glory days, when the early muslims were caravan raiders, conquerors of non-muslim lands, shaking down non-muslims for regular jizya tax to subsidize the muslim religion.

So most of the religious m&ds aren't the very hardworking type because they don't have good role models in their own religion, and expect to just merely take from others for their own survival.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

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Okay to sign ICERD if Constitution not affected, says PKR Youth chief

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• Friday, 16 Nov 2018
  12:40 PM MYT
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• By Wani Muthiah, Vincent Tan, Tarrence Tan, and Clarissa Chung
  

SHAH ALAM: Outgoing PKR Youth chief Nik Nazmi Nik Ahmad says Malaysia could consider looking into ratifying the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) as long as the Federal Constitution is preserved.
“If we can protect our Constitution while we sign ICERD, I don’t have a problem with it,” he said, adding that Malaysia must look holistically at all the international treaties it wished to sign.

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“There are certain international treaties – not just ICERD but other treaties, such as the ones on sexuality – that may be sensitive and may not be appropriate for Malaysia.
“But there are (treaties on) fundamental things. We say we want to help the Rohingya, but we don’t even sign the (treaties on) fundamental things,” he told a press conference at the PKR Youth congress on Friday (Nov 16).

On another matter, Nik Nazmi said it was a tradition for the incumbent deputy president to officiate the party’s Youth and Women’s congress.
He said this in reply to a question on vice president Rafizi Ramli’s absence at Thursday night’s joint meeting between the party’s wings, which was opened by incumbent deputy president Datuk Seri Azmin Ali, his rival for the deputy president post.
“Sometimes the vice presidents would attend (the joint meeting), sometimes they don’t, but not all of them would attend – that is normal.
“You wouldn’t ask why (PKR incoming president) Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim didn’t attend or why (PKR outgoing president) Datuk Seri Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail didn’t attend,” he said.
Nik Nazmi said the disagreements in the party showed that PKR was different from Umno that had a “Yes boss” culture.
On talk of Umno Youth members trying to join PKR Youth, he said he was open to accepting members from different backgrounds as long as they believed in the principles of the party.
“If you truly believe in the principles of PKR, whatever your past, we don’t mind,” he said.

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[JohnTan]

Muslim majority countries who sign the treaty continue to discriminate against non-muslims and other religious or racial minorities as per normal. Their allah has commanded it so.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I blame the problem squarely on the m&ds' state religion, islam.

Everywhere they go, they expect others to give them preferential treatment, special privileges, and to subsidize their religion. Their mosque and madrassahs spend a lot of the religious curriculum on their past glory days, when the early muslims were caravan raiders, conquerors of non-muslim lands, shaking down non-muslims for regular jizya tax to subsidize the muslim religion.

So most of the religious m&ds aren't the very hardworking type because they don't have good role models in their own religion, and expect to just merely take from others for their own survival.

I blame the problem strictly on the m&ds n mudslimes for not using common sense to advance themselves instead of religion as excuses for everything

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Muslim majority countries who sign the treaty continue to discriminate against non-muslims and other religious or racial minorities as per normal. Their allah has commanded it so.

It's going to get worse in mudland...

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Zahid: Umno, PAS to create special committee to achieve Malay, Islamic agenda

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KUALA SELANGOR (Bernama): Umno and PAS will create a special committee soon to find a common stand in their struggle to achieve the Malay and Islamic agenda in the country.
Umno president Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi (pic) said the special committee was also being created to implement social programmes involving the two Malay parties.


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"Through the committee, Umno will also organise gatherings concerning issues on the Malays and Islam in every state to promote cooperation between the two parties and boost the sentiments of Malays and Muslims.
"We hope that through this committee we can work together as an opposition coalition in protecting the Malay agenda and Islam in this country,” he said when attending a gathering with the top Umno leadership at the Selangor level.

Meanwhile, Ahmad Zahid expressed confidence that Umno could defend the Rantau state seat in the impending by-election.
He said Umno was not afraid to contest in the Rantau state seat and he would prove that the party was still the choice of the people.
"Rantau had been fated to hold a by-election after the court made a decision to annul the victory of Tok Mat (Umno deputy president Datuk Seri Mohamad Hasan).
"According to the law, Tok Mat could file an appeal, but I asked him not to make an appeal. Umno has the courage to contest and this is an Umno stronghold,” he added.
Last Friday (Nov 16), the Special Election Court decided that Mohamad’s victory in the Rantau state constituency in the 14th General Election was null and void and the by-election for the state seat must be held immediately.
Previously, Mohamad, who was the former Negri Sembilan Mentri Besar, won the seat uncontested after the PKR candidate, Dr S. Streram was prevented from entering the nomination centre on April 28 as he did not have the pass issued by the Election Commission. – Bernama


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To the m&ds, equality is bending over backwards to accomodate Islam.... anything else is racism and discrimination. I remember one story going around on facebook of a firm who hired a malay to work in the office. He was very hardworking and earned the praises of his co-workers and superiors, everybody was pleased with him and even though he was the only muslim there, he got along fine with everyone and mixed around happily.

The company eventually hired one more malay guy and that's when trouble started. Since there was now two of them, the m&ds asked for a halal microwave as the other was "contaminated" according to Islam. To the company, this sounded like a reasonable request and it was not a big issue buying a microwave and labelling it halal. Very soon, more muslims joined the company and now they requested for a Halal fridge and again as there was now a good size of muslims, it sounded reasonable to have one to segregate their food from non-halal. Then more and more requests came forward: Friday prayers have to be followed strictly and all muslims have to be let go to mosque after lunch, there need to be a prayer room for them to pray at a corner of the office building, they must be allowed to pray X number of times during their office hours and this was non-neogtiable and since there are so many muslims now, the once willing to mix muslims now mostly keep to their muslim colleagues. Management wanted to stop and put and end to their requests, but was met with high resistance and complaints to the labour ministry citing prevention of freedom of practice of religion.

Good luck to Malaysia and ICERD.

 

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PORT MORESBY (Bernama): Implementing the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) would entail amending the Federal Constitution, which is almost impossible, says Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad (pic).
The Prime Minister pointed out that a two-thirds parliamentary majority was needed for this to happen.


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This, he said, was nearly impossible with the current composition of the Dewan Rakyat from the government and the reaction shown over the matter from the opposition as well as members of the government.
"Only with the support from the opposition can we have a two-thirds majority, and even then government members themselves may not support (it). So I feel that it's almost impossible for us to achieve the two-thirds majority necessary (to amend the constitution)," he said.

Dr Mahathir was speaking to Malaysian media at the conclusion of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) 2018 meeting here.
It was reported that Kedah Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Mukhriz Mahathir and Youth and Sports Minister Syed Saddiq Syed Abdul Rahman had expressed reservations about ratifying ICERD, as opposition parties planned to organise a joint rally next month against it.
Dr Mahathir acknowledged that ICERD was sensitive to Malaysia's Malay community and that the government was not rejecting the views expressed by the people on the matter.
"This matter is sensitive to the Malays, we understand that. In my speech at the United Nations (general assembly), I mentioned the complexity of implementing ICERD. So, we didn't commit that we are going to do it," he said.
Umno president Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said on Saturday (Nov 17) that the Malay-Muslim community would "run amok" to protest the Pakatan Harapan government's pledge to ratify ICERD.
To this, the Prime Minister said: "Unless Zahid stirs up trouble, there will be no riot (over ICERD)." – Bernama


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Guan Eng: DAP to leave ICERD ratification to PM, won't be drawn into racial debate

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GEORGE TOWN: DAP will leave the ratification of the International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) issue to the Prime Minister.
Party secretary-general Lim Guan Eng said DAP would not want to be drawn into the racial debate over ICERD by certain political parties.


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"Let's not add unnecessarily to the heated issue where certain parties which lost in the general election are bent on creating a racial issue over the ratification of the treaty.
"DAP members should refrain from commenting too much on the issue as we have already been branded by parties like PAS as disrespecting the royals for rejecting titles," said Lim when addressing the delegates during debate time at the Penang DAP Convention here on Sunday (Nov 18).

"Both Umno and PAS have been vocal on the issue saying there would be chaos if the treaty is ratified and I think Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad would be the best person to handle the issue."
The government's announcement that it was considering ratifying ICERD has been met with opposition from Malay and Muslim groups, who claim that the move would undermine the special position of the bumiputra community.
Top leaders from PAS and Umno are planning to hold a joint rally on Dec 8 to protest plans to ratify ICERD.
On the issue of rejecting titles from the royals, Lim said as the secretary-general of the party, he has to set certain rules on what the party stands for.
"It's an internal party matter and it's up to the members to accept or not the party's decision where serving leaders will not be allowed to accept titles.
"However, there are parties alleging that we have disrespected the sultans by trying to create chaos by making it a racial issue.
"Let's not be drawn into these issues and concentrate on serving the people which was what we were elected for," added Lim.

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