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eatshitndie

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Now Lambo also got SUV. Urus.
suv is now the rage. luxurious and more powerful. this is the consensus from the los angeles auto show. ferrari has little to no choice but to consider designing an suv. the germans were slow to go there but when the first sales took off they are now convinced suv is the vehicle of the future, especially with hybrid and electric versions. now it's the turn of the slower and more traditional italians to realize the inevitability of the suv in the u.s. auto market.

urus is not as convincing as the porsche macan. a little too late. :wink:
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suv is now the rage. luxurious and more powerful. this is the consensus from the los angeles auto show. ferrari has little to no choice but to consider designing an suv. the germans were slow to go there but when the first sales took off they are now convinced suv is the vehicle of the future, especially with hybrid and electric versions. now it's the turn of the slower and more traditional italians to realize the inevitability of the suv in the u.s. auto market.

urus is not as convincing as the porsche macan. a little too late. :wink:
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You know something... when I arrived in NZ 20 odd years ago the first thing I did was to buy an SUV. I stuck with them for 18 years and while they were the most practical in terms of space and versatility I actually never enjoyed driving them as they all handled like of a boat... unwieldy and unresponsive.

I chanced upon what looked like a good deal in a Toyota Mark X one day and popped by the car yard that happened to be just down the road from where I live. One test drive was all it took to be converted back to the good old rear wheel drive car. It was a joy to drive. I bought it on the spot and have not looked back.

I still have an SUV but I hardly ever drive it. I use it only when there are visitors in town or I'm going on an extended road trip out of town because it takes all my gear with space to spare. For day to day driving nothing beats my CAR. I'd forgotten how nice they were to drive compared to these lumbering, oversized, ugly 4 wheel drives that now rule the roads.
 

Leongsam

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Sir, did you notice that when a portrait photo is posted here, it doesn't stay portrait.

I downloaded, opened and resaved the file and it then displays correctly.

There is something in the metadata that the forum does not interpret correctly.

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eatshitndie

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You know something... when I arrived in NZ 20 odd years ago the first thing I did was to buy an SUV. I stuck with them for 18 years and while they were the most practical in terms of space and versatility I actually never enjoyed driving them as they all handled like of a boat... unwieldy and unresponsive.

I chanced upon what looked like a good deal in a Toyota Mark X one day and popped by the car yard that happened to be just down the road from where I live. One test drive was all it took to be converted back to the good old rear wheel drive car. It was a joy to drive. I bought it on the spot and have not looked back.

I still have an SUV but I hardly ever drive it. I use it only when there are visitors in town or I'm going on an extended road trip out of town because it takes all my gear with space to spare. For day to day driving nothing beats my CAR. I'd forgotten how nice they were to drive compared to these lumbering, oversized, ugly 4 wheel drives that now rule the roads.
early generations of suv suck at driving dynamics, looks, and luxurious comfort. the lexus rx changed all that. after a decade of brisk sales and poaching of would be buyers of german luxury sedans, german auto makers started to act and churn out ugly, clunky, boxy sun's with high unbalanced profiles. but decades later, the range rover evoque and discovery sport influenced both japs and germans to go sporty and low profile with luxury compact suv's. days of the crossovers and vans are over, and the luxury compact suv's now reign supreme among city dwellers and suburban soccer moms. younger men and women with good jobs also gravitate towards the same genre of autos. it's mostly a u.s. market trend.

for me, i've never owned an suv until now. the macan is a great all rounder, the extra rear space has helped with carrying larger things around, and it's no hassle to go up to the mountains during winter. it has awd, switchable to 4wd, and tires are all-terrain including m&d, snow and ice. no need to put on chains anymore. :biggrin:
 
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eatshitndie

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since this has morphed to luxury suv's. here's the latest story on the urus. (and soon it will be joined by aston martin, rolls royce, and possibly..... ferrari.)

Lamborghini joins the boom in supercar SUVs
COLLEEN BARRY,Associated Press 4 hours ago
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The new Lamborghini 'Urus' the first Super Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV) by Lamborghini, is presented at the headquarters in Sant'Agata Bolognese, near Bologna, Monday, Dec. 4, 2017. Lamborghini unveiled the once-improbable Urus SUV on Monday at its headquarters in Sant’Agata, Italy, where the supercar maker owned by the Volkswagen group is expanding the factory to meet utility vehicle demand. (Giorgio Benvenuti/ANSA via AP)
SANT'AGATA, Italy (AP) — Supercar makers have long known that parked next to that snarling Lamborghini, a racing-red Ferrari, or stately Bentley at some of the globe's toniest addresses is a practical SUV. With the sport utility vehicle market growing by leaps and bounds, they increasingly want in on the profits.

Lamborghini unveiled the once-improbable Urus SUV on Monday at its headquarters in Sant'Agata, Italy, where the supercar maker owned by the Volkswagen group is expanding the factory to meet utility vehicle demand.

The Urus enters a luxury field crowded with the Mercedes G-Class, the Bentley Bentayga and the trailblazing Porsche Cayenne — and soon to be joined by Aston Martin, Rolls Royce and in all probability, Ferrari.

Yianni Charalambous placed an order even before he saw the Urus in person Monday. He expects to park it next to his Lamborghini Aventador supercar come September.

"I wanted a double-Lamborghini garage," Charalambous said, growing impatient while a technical glitch delayed the unveiling ceremony on the Sant'Agata factory floor.

"I have always had a four-by-four. And I have always had a Lamborghini," the Londoner said. "I have had Range Rovers. I wanted something different."

Lamborghini dabbled in the SUV market in the 1980s and 1990s with the boxy LM 002, which sported a body shape not all that different from the Hummer's. But the Hummer's lower price was hard to beat. Lamborghini ended up only building a few hundred of the LM 002.

"Now we live in a different world," John Giunta, a Lamborghini dealer in Sarasota, Florida, said. "The lines of this is more modernized, and something of this price point can survive now."

The 32 Lamborghini dealers in the United States already have orders ranging from 10 to 25, Giunta said. In the U.S., the Urus starts at $200,000 (168,718 euros.) The European base price is just under 171,500 euros ($203,322.)

The Urus boasts the high center-of-gravity which has made SUVs so popular, but Lamborghini chief engineer Maurizio Reggiani said that the height can be adjusted to a lower drive for the track or higher for off-road performance.

The Urus can go from 0 to 100 kilometers per hour (62 mph) in 3.6 seconds and brake from 100 kilometers an hour to a stop in 33.7 meters (111 feet.) At a maximum speed of 305 kilometers an hour (189.5 mph), Lamborghini boasts that it is "the fastest SUV in the world."

Analysts say that the move into SUVs has become a natural fit for most brands, despite the risk of alienating aficionados.

"I think if you look at those brands' image, I think you would look at an SUV — especially a Lamborghini — as almost a sell-out move. I don't think that is the case anymore," Jeff Schuster, senior vice president at LMC Automotive in Detroit.

From being nonexistent in 2006, high-end SUVs have more than quadrupled in sales since 2010, from 4,700 units to almost 21,000 units in 2016, driven by the Mercedes G-Class and Bentley Bentayga, according to IHS Automotive.

The entry of the Urus along with the planned Aston Martin DBX and Rolls Royce "High Side Vehicle" is expected to push those numbers up to 29,300 by 2020.

Even Ferrari is considering entering the category, with a decision expected early next year, which could leave McLaren as the only hold-out among supercars.

Luxury SUVS are following a mass-market trend. SUVs are the fastest-growing overall segment of the car market, tripling in sales in a decade from just below 8 million in 2006 to nearly 26.5 million last year. SUV sales are forecast by IHS Automotive to grow by another 28 percent to over 34 million units by 2020.

Before having a true luxury option, IHS automotive analyst Ian Fletcher said, many SUV owners went to private modifiers and tuners to increase performance and add luxury swag to their off-the-line mass-market vehicles.

"A lot of manufacturers said, 'Oh, we can have a piece of that,'" Fletcher said.

The decision to enter the SUV market was a no-brainer for Lamborghini. As part of the VW group, the Italian Lamborghini shares luxury SUV platforms with the Bentley Bentayga and the Audi Q7, bringing down development costs and increasing profit margins.

Lamborghini has not released sales goals, but IHS forecasts Urus sales of 2,900 a year to a peak in 2019-2020, putting it on par with the Lamborghini Huracan.

"This is going to sell very well," said John Littlefield, who owns Lamborghini Carolinas dealership in Greensboro, North Carolina. "I owned one of the old LM 002....The LM 002 was a beast. This is more refined luxury and beast."
 

nayr69sg

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early generations of suv suck at driving dynamics, looks, and luxurious comfort. the lexus rx changed all that. after a decade of brisk sales and poaching of would be buyers of german luxury sedans, german auto makers started to act and churn out ugly, clunky, boxy sun's with high unbalanced profiles. but decades later, the range rover evoque and discovery sport influenced both japs and germans to go sporty and low profile with luxury compact suv's. days of the crossovers and vans are over, and the luxury compact suv's now reign supreme among city dwellers and suburban soccer moms. younger men and women with good jobs also gravitate towards the same genre of autos. it's mostly a u.s. market trend.

for me, i've never owned an suv until now. the macan is a great all rounder, the extra rear space has helped with carrying larger things around, and it's no hassle to go up to the mountains during winter. it has awd, switchable to 4wd, and tires are all-terrain including m&d, snow and ice. no need to put on chains anymore. :biggrin:
There is no such thing as all terrain tires. It is something Americans came up with. Trust me their all terrain or all season come to Canada cannot make it in the snow and ice.
 

nayr69sg

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Why SUV need to go so fast? In snow and off road terrain go fast......crash and die good for you lah.
 

eatshitndie

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There is no such thing as all terrain tires. It is something Americans came up with. Trust me their all terrain or all season come to Canada cannot make it in the snow and ice.
selling like hot cakes now with light trucks to go up to slopes for skiing. yup, it's a u.s. thing. make america great again.
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