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Ghost in lift?

Tikuang

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Just now at 10pm, I took lift downstairs to go provision shop buy cigs,

I stay on 30 flr.

I pressed lift button. Lift arrived. Door opened. No one inside. I walked in. Press button 1. Lift door closed. Then open again like got someone outside pressed the lift button. No one came in. I put out my head to look. Nobody.

So, I press door close button. Door closed. Then it open again. again, I felt that someone outside pressed button.

Shit. This time I a bit scared. Never look out. Just keep pressing C button. Lift door closed. Lift started to go down. Then it stopped at 24 flr. Door open. No one came in. Door closed. Lift went down to 14 flr. Again door open, No one came in. I fucking freaked out. Just press C many times. Fuck. again stopped at 4 flr. No one again. Shit. I like wtf. Heart beat like kenna heart attack.

Finally I reach ground floor. I ran out.

I kenna hantu? Anyone experience before?


This type happens very often especially for old lifts.
If for real, just ignore it.
In the human world, there are also plenty of sicko people around.
When they mati, also same same lah
江山易改本性难移
 

Muthukali

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TS, do a search for "Elisa Lam elevator" :eek: It's still one of the most mysterious unsolved cases in recent history..

elisa-lam-7.jpg

Dey, that is 藍可兒, at Cecil hotel, videos can be found in one of the episode in 来自星星的事. correct?
 

rurouni

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you believe in ghost? lol:biggrin:
Yes, I do, but I believe most of the so-called "ghosts" that people claim to have seen are actually demons:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon#Christianity
wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_demonology
and not the souls of dead humans.

This is because the soul of a dead human is either in Heaven or Hell after death.

If it is in Hell, the demons in Hell would have absolutely no mercy to allow that damned human soul to return to earth to relieve its "hunger" during any "Hungry Ghost" festival; but since the demons are cunning, they pretend to appear as those damned human souls to deceive living humans into worshipping their dead ancestors, instead of worshipping the true God, in order to increase the number of damned human souls in Hell after their eventual deaths.

If it is in Heaven, it would not want to return to earth to enjoy anything because the enjoyment in Heaven is much better, to say the least.

Spirits from Heaven can come to earth, but only if they are commissioned by God to deliver certain messages, but these spirits are usually angels, not saints (i.e. souls of dead humans who ended up in Heaven); by the way, "angel" comes from the Latin word "angelus", which means "messenger":
wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel#Etymology

Sometimes, saints from Heaven do come to earth, but this is rare and only if God wants them, just like angels, to appear to certain people for inspiration or encouragement; and those people usually end up feeling happy, not scared.
 
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Raider

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Yes, I do, but I believe most of the so-called "ghosts" that people claim to have seen are actually demons:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon#Christianity
wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_demonology
and not the souls of dead humans.

This is because the soul of a dead human is either in Heaven or Hell after death.

If it is in Hell, the demons in Hell would have absolutely no mercy to allow that damned human soul to return to earth to relieve its "hunger" during any "Hungry Ghost" festival; but since the demons are cunning, they pretend to appear as those human souls to deceive living humans into worshipping their dead ancestors, instead of worshipping the true God, in order to increase the number of damned human souls in Hell after their eventual deaths.

If it is in Heaven, it would not want to return to earth to enjoy anything because the enjoyment in Heaven is much better, to say the least.

Spirits from Heaven can come to earth, but only if they are commissioned by God to deliver certain messages, but these spirits are usually angels, not saints (i.e. souls of dead humans who ended up in Heaven); by the way, "angel" comes from the Latin word "angelus", which means "messenger":
wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel#Etymology

Sometimes, saints from Heaven do come to earth, but this is rare and only if God wants them, just like angels, to appear to certain people for inspiration or encouragement; and those people usually end up feeling happy, not scared.

how u know there is heaven? u been there? lol:biggrin:
 

rurouni

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how u know there is heaven? u been there? lol:biggrin:
I've never been there, but I believe that it exists:
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-20-29
(“Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.)

Just like how you believe that your ancestors from thousands of years ago existed, and that your existence and family line did not start with, say, your great-grandparents, if they happen to be the oldest of your ancestors that you managed to have seen before. :wink:
 
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rurouni

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what if your belief is wrong? how? lol:biggrin:
haha, since some years ago, I've been preparing myself for such a question/response from anyone, and my answer is simply:

My belief is simply as strong as believing that my grandfather's father, whom my grandfather told me about but whom I've never even seen photos of, existed.

If you ask me, "what if your grandfather's father never existed?", I'm afraid I can't answer your question, simply because my grandfather's father really existed.

A true Christian is one who has strong faith even if he/she has never seen God or Heaven or Hell or angels or demons or saints or damned souls.

But more importantly, he/she is one who puts into practice the teachings of Jesus Christ, like what I said in another thread about two weeks ago:

sammyboy.com/showthread.php?226652-Hell-was-invented-by-Church-to-instill-fear&p=2407278#post2407278
wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shelby_Spong
is clearly a false Christian, who does not believe in the existence of Heaven and Hell, and who even dares to say "God is not a Christian". :confused: :*:

Having said that, those "Christians" who use the names of "God", "Heaven" and "Hell" to control/enslave others for their own earthly benefit are also false Christians, simply because they are using God's name in vain.

The true Christian teaching is that God, Heaven, Hell, angels, demons, the Devil (or Satan) exist.
But in order to end up in Heaven (and not Hell), one must not only believe in its existence, one must also live one's life in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ, the most important of which is to follow His example of rather being sentenced to death (or imprisonment) than sinning (by being a slave of unrepentant sinners) to avoid such earthly punishment.

kingjamesbibleonline.org/James-2-18
"Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."

Having said that, I must confess that I'm still far from perfect, but I'm confident I'm on the right track.
 
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Raider

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so u relying on fact that because your grandfather father father father blah blah blah existed, and so therefore there is only one god and its your christian god?
 

rurouni

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so u relying on fact that because your grandfather father father father blah blah blah existed, and so therefore there is only one god and its your christian god?
No, of course there are other reasons (which you probably won't accept because neither you nor I have actually seen any supernatural being), but I was just trying to use a simple analogy to help you understand the strength (not the reasons, which is why I said "as strong as") of my faith, and that I'm unable to answer your question "what if your belief is wrong? how?" simply because I'm not wrong about this.

Just as you can believe in certain things that you've never seen before, so I can also believe in certain things that I've never seen before. :wink:

Also, why don't you ask yourself, "what if rurouni is right?" :wink:
 
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yellowarse

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No, of course there are other reasons (which you probably won't accept because neither you nor I have actually seen any supernatural being), but I was just trying to use a simple analogy to help you understand the strength (not the reasons, which is why I said "as strong as") of my faith, and that I'm unable to answer your question "what if your belief is wrong? how?" simply because I'm not wrong about this.

Just as you can believe in certain things that you've never seen before, so I can also believe in certain things that I've never seen before. :wink:

Also, why don't you ask yourself, "what if rurouni is right?" :wink:

You have every right to believe what you believe. But don't impose your beliefs on others. E.g. I believe pigs can fly, but I won't force you to agree with me.

The trouble with Christians is that they judge and condemn others based on their own belief while trying to ram their faith down the throats of non-believers, not realizing that others also have a right to their own – 'illogical' as they may seem to Christians – faiths and beliefs.
 

Lordshiva

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No, of course there are other reasons (which you probably won't accept because neither you nor I have actually seen any supernatural being), but I was just trying to use a simple analogy to help you understand the strength (not the reasons, which is why I said "as strong as") of my faith, and that I'm unable to answer your question "what if your belief is wrong? how?" simply because I'm not wrong about this.

Just as you can believe in certain things that you've never seen before, so I can also believe in certain things that I've never seen before. :wink:

Also, why don't you ask yourself, "what if rurouni is right?" :wink:

Faith means shutting the eyes of reasons. That's the problem with people with faith they can continue to believe what they wanted to believe without any evidence.
 

congo9

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encountered a prankster who sprinted down flight of steps to press buttons on every other floor level just to irritate chiobu inside lift. i didn't mind as i had more time to admire irritation and beauty on chiobu. :wink:

this one is obviously cannon fairy story as someone has already indicated the floors ending with 4's. :wink:

Last Saturday, went to LIM CHU KANG cemetery to perform some rituals for my whole clans.

It easily cost 30K just to have priests , helpers , set up tentage, Power Generators, food and other stuff just to have that kind of ritual. One thing, i didn't even see a single Spirit and strangely there are no mosquitoes flying around.

Yet people complained that they are strike hard by dengue in Singapore.

Actually, my other cousins boycotted the events because they are Christians. But i am too one, yet i attended and participate in the event itself . I just can't stand people who are so self righteous. I always know that my God loves me.
 
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