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Facts You did not know about CPF

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Facts You did not know about CPF

The whole purpose of a retirement scheme is so that an individual can save a sum of money in the present while he/she is employed, so that this saved amount can be used to fund retirement expenses when they have no or a lower income. If someone sets aside a sum of money for retirement, but dips into it every month to pay for rent, or electricity bills, or car payments, than there is really no retirement fund available for this person when it comes time to retire. This is exactly what is happening with CPF. Individuals are allowed to dip into it for housing down payments, and then for monthly mortgage payments after that. That leaves them with little CPF money when they come towards their retirement. And what is worse, by imposing minimum sum requirements, even this smaller amount of CPF cannot be withdrawn unless the minimum sum met.

Bearing this in mind, here are some interesting facts from last CPF statements available in Dec 2012:

1) CPF contributions for 2012 was $24.7 billion, but withdrawals were $11.7 billion!! The withdrawal is about half of the contribution. How can you save for your retirement when you take out $5 out of every $10 you put in? But wait, you say, how can this be? The % of S’pore population over 65 is only 10%. How can they have so much CPF as to withdraw $11.7 billion a year?

2) Well, it turns out that $5.7 billion was withdrawn to fund HDB down payments and monthly mortgage payments, as well $2.3 billion was withdrawn to fund to private housing DP and payments. The serious issue here is that the PAP has deliberately overpriced the value of a flat by at least 300%, meaning that the savings have been siphoned off to pay for overpriced housing. Even worse, these flats are nothing more than 99 years pre-paid rent. Hence the $5.7 billion is going into the govt. with no benefit to the people. Some fools will say, wait, I can sell my flat for money and retire. Let me ask you if you stayed in your flat for 40 years, how much can sell it for, when no bank will finance the buyer? How much money in lost interests and mortgage payments have you sunk into the flat, and whatever price you can sell it for, will it even recoup this? Of course, who can forget the $400 million withdrawn by departing PRs every year.

3) It turns out that the CPF spends $1.4 million a year on “publicity and campaigns”, and yet , most Singaporeans are still in the dark as to how the CPF invests their money, why the rates are what they are, etc. This $1.4 million is a waste of money as far as I can see.

4) CPF is set up as a trust. They are the trustee, you are the settlor of the trust, and the only beneficiary while you are alive. You are asked to nominate another beneficiary in the event that you pass away. As the settlor of the trust, I would think that we have the right to ask the trustee how and where your money is being invested.

5) CPF spends $4 million on “staff welfare and training””. Not included is staff loans totaling another $69,000. Not sure who gets a staff loan, nor why.

6) CPF holds a total of $491 million in corporate bonds (yes, corporate, not the Singapore govt. bonds), some of which are AA rated, some are A rated, and $218 million are not rated!!. In fact, CPF acknowledges in its financial statements that these corporate bonds are riskier, and this is a much different story than what some PAP MPs have the told the public of a risk free investments.

Other than investments in special issues of Singapore Government securities, the CPF is also exposed to credit risk that arises from investments in cash, fixed deposits and debt securities. Financial loss may materialise should the issuer default on the securities.

In the prior year, CPF only invested $36 million in unrated bonds. I find it very strange that a trustee of the public money would invest in an unrated corporate bond. I would say that maybe junk bonds are not rated?

7) An astounding $750 million worth of debt securities are in non Singapore currency, hence exposing the CPF to a currency risk and loss in light of the strengthened Singapore dollar. As well, $127 million are in equity securities investments that are in non Singapore dollars. This totals $877 million in foreign currency risk, most of which is in USD.

8) Key management received $5.7 million in salary.
 
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life is a risk
scare of risk
go jump and dont risk

cpf is the best risk so far
as solid as the rock
singaporeans should be grateful to our world class governance


so many threads on a great scheme
all started by idiots who know nuts about the cpf

majulah singapura
 
It is excellent to tie in overpriced public housing to CPF. These two will kill off the PAPzis in the next GE if used wisely, widely and consistently. The $400 million wihtdrawn by foreigners will be at least 100 fold in 5 to 10 years time when the first batch of mass FT/PR/new citizen imports sell off their housing assets and withdraw their CPF. There is no way that any country will be able to afford such a large and simultaneous withdrawal without strong negative repercussions.
 
life is a risk
scare of risk
go jump and dont risk

cpf is the best risk so far
as solid as the rock
singaporeans should be grateful to our world class governance


so many threads on a great scheme
all started by idiots who know nuts about the cpf

majulah singapura

You son of a serial rape victim, the CPF is a perpetual and extremely high risk. There is no other savings or fund that has reneged on its promise to payback to savers. The CPF is absolutely a high risk venture. You can ask all those who have missed out on withdrawing their CPF if indeed it is risk free. You can also count on the minimum sum being increased while the pathetic monthly payout will continue to be extremely low and will get increasingly lower in real terms as inflation always outgrows the rate of return provided by the fund. It is ironic that you and you entire family will also suffer under this plan that you support. And this is why you are deemed a son of a serial rape victim as you enjoy getting screwed and you enjoy your entire family getting screwed.
 
life is a risk
scare of risk
go jump and dont risk

cpf is the best risk so far
as solid as the rock
singaporeans should be grateful to our world class governance


so many threads on a great scheme
all started by idiots who know nuts about the cpf

majulah singapura

Kopiuncle, why did you change your moniker?
 
Not just highly priced public housing with fake subsidy, medishield (now medishield life) and highly priced public healthcare with fake subsidy are also intended to deplete your cpf account.

Absolutely right.
 
thank you boss
you are the most enlightened moderator i ever know
you are like the rock - as solid as the cpf
majulah singapura

What a fucking underblow insult to Leongsam
That LS as solid as the cpf.

Leongsam should take back the points and BAN lionheart for such fucking insults





PAPs ARE ATTACKING SINGAPOREANS BY THIS ATTACK ON ROY
PAPs ARE FIXING THEIR PIANO WIRES AROUND THE NECKS OF SINGAPOREANS
PAPs ARE FIXING THE NECKLACE OF BURNING CAR TYRES ON THE NECKS OF SINGAPOREANS
WILL SINGAPOREANS REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH FOR PAPs TO FUCK
AND TO TIEW AND TO TIE PIANO WIRES?

TURN UP AT THE RALLY AT HONG LIM TO SUPPORT ROY AND SHOW PAPs WE FIGHT THIS TIME
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH


Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.



GET RID OF THE POISON IN SINGAPORE
HANG ALL THOSE FUCKING PAPs AND THEIR COLLABORATORS
BBQ THE BASTARD PAPs

AND SINGAPORE CAN BE AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN SWITZERLAND

OR REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE FUCKED TO BE TIEWED TO BE KANNED BY THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES

Kill them all PAPs
Let GOD sort out the good from the really bad ones
The good PAPs can then eat joss sticks and candle wax from time to time
The bad PAPs like smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY will be raped and tiewed and kanned by legions of ghouls and demons and not ever
get time off to eat joss sticks and candle wax

Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.

They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP.

Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.

Despite the leeching and fucking of singaporeans by the cheebye PAP and LKY, Singapore still managed to survive to date.
Despite their being hung as a fucking millstones around the necks of Singaporeans and the idiocy and corrupt manipulations of PAP and LKY, Singapore still not dead yet.

WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS

WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN

WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.

AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.

https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
 
life is a risk
scare of risk
go jump and dont risk

cpf is the best risk so far
as solid as the rock
singaporeans should be grateful to our world class governance


so many threads on a great scheme
all started by idiots who know nuts about the cpf

majulah singapura

Up you Lionheart. hOo ah
 
What a fucking underblow insult to Leongsam
That LS as solid as the cpf.

Leongsam should take back the points and BAN lionheart for such fucking insults





PAPs ARE ATTACKING SINGAPOREANS BY THIS ATTACK ON ROY
PAPs ARE FIXING THEIR PIANO WIRES AROUND THE NECKS OF SINGAPOREANS
PAPs ARE FIXING THE NECKLACE OF BURNING CAR TYRES ON THE NECKS OF SINGAPOREANS
WILL SINGAPOREANS REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH FOR PAPs TO FUCK
AND TO TIEW AND TO TIE PIANO WIRES?

TURN UP AT THE RALLY AT HONG LIM TO SUPPORT ROY AND SHOW PAPs WE FIGHT THIS TIME
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH


Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.



GET RID OF THE POISON IN SINGAPORE
HANG ALL THOSE FUCKING PAPs AND THEIR COLLABORATORS
BBQ THE BASTARD PAPs

AND SINGAPORE CAN BE AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN SWITZERLAND

OR REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE FUCKED TO BE TIEWED TO BE KANNED BY THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES

Kill them all PAPs
Let GOD sort out the good from the really bad ones
The good PAPs can then eat joss sticks and candle wax from time to time
The bad PAPs like smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY will be raped and tiewed and kanned by legions of ghouls and demons and not ever
get time off to eat joss sticks and candle wax

Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.

They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP.

Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.

Despite the leeching and fucking of singaporeans by the cheebye PAP and LKY, Singapore still managed to survive to date.
Despite their being hung as a fucking millstones around the necks of Singaporeans and the idiocy and corrupt manipulations of PAP and LKY, Singapore still not dead yet.

WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS

WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN

WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.

AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.

https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en

YAAAAWWWNNN , take a number , NEXT !
 
thank you boss
you are the most enlightened moderator i ever know
you are like the rock - as solid as the cpf
majulah singapura

You might as well say Boss's cock as solid as the rock..
 
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