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High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PAP

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Here we have a high level committee struck ostensibly to look into strenghtening NS. But this committee is a microsm of what is wrong with the PAP and SIngapore today. Literally hundreds of thousands of men have performed NS, so this is not a trivial matter. But look at who is on this committee.

- A Minister of Defence who was never a general, but a surgeon and a medical officer supposedly doing his NS in Mindef. DOes anyone here really consider a doctor's stint in the SAF to be truly representative of an NS experience. Obviously not.
- 3 members who are current or former regular sign on officers and now holding the rank of general, i.e. Chan Chun SIng, Perry Lim, and Ng Chee Meng. Again 3 characters who have never done NS.
- 2 women, Amy Khor and Luisa Lee. Unless they were serving NS as comfort women, I fail to see how they can possibily know anything about an NS experience, much less how to strenghten it.
- More Drs. like Dr. Lim Wee Kiak and Dr. Bervyn Lee.

And the rest of the committee are populated by your PAP porlumpars such as Perm Secs, SPH editors, Mediacorpse executives, etc. How can this type of committee be representative of 450,000 NSmen? They are comprised of either people who have never served NS or of elites. Where is the taxi driver, or hawker, or those other occupations now occupied by formerly peng kias and the average singapore Joe who did his NS? Not represented at all. In other words, this committee meeting for the 7th time and costing god knows how many millions knows fuck all about strengthening NS.

But this is representative of how the PAP runs things. We have SAF generals who have no corporate experience running SMRT. Every where, people who are poorly or totally unqualified are placed in areas of responsibility because they are beholden to the PAP and are their loyal lackeys. The result from all this inevitable incompetence is now demonstrated every day. Crowded MRT breaking down all the time. Not enough housing because one hand let in millions of FT without the other hand figuring out u must build flats to accomodate them. An Engineer being put in charge of $100 billion plus soveriegn funds and than losing billions $. And all these lackeys don't dare to tell the GAY emperor he has no clothes.


High-level committee looking to strengthen support for NSmen holds seventh meeting

SINGAPORE - Members at the meeting discussed several recommendations, which follow the latest round of public feedback. These include suggestions to improve the way the Individual Physical Proficiency Test is managed, and boosting measures to support national servicemen in areas of housing, healthcare and education. Another idea is to expand the roles of the Advisory Council on Community Relations in Defence and the SAF Veterans' League to deepen engagement with key stakeholders.

The Committee to Strengthen National Service (CSNS), chaired by Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen, held its 7th Steering Committee Meeting at the SAFRA Mount Faber earlier this morning.

During the meeting, the "Support for NS" and "Recognition and Benefits for National Service" Working Groups submitted their final reports to the Steering Committee. Members discussed the recommendations following the latest round of public feedback, including suggestions to improve the management of the Individual Physical Proficiency Test, expanding the roles of the Advisory Council on Community Relations in Defence (ACCORD) and the SAF Veterans' League to deepen engagement with key stakeholders, and enhancing measures to support National Servicemen in the areas of housing, healthcare and education. The Committee also discussed some of the suggestions which would not be taken up.

CSNS member Mr Gerald Singham shared after the meeting, "I am happy with the process and outcome of the CSNS. We met with a wide range of stakeholders so a lot of the recommendations are a reflection of what our NSmen would like to see. In terms of the actual recommendations, I think that they are meaningful and at the same time, it does not make NS into something that is too transactional. I personally feel that defence of our country is a sacred duty and it should not be reduced into something that is transactional."

More than 40,000 people from all walks of life have participated in the CSNS public consultation effort. The CSNS has reviewed the feedback and suggestions and will announce its recommendations by June. Members of the public who are interested in the CSNS journey may visit www.strengthenNS.sg to find out more
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

More than 40,000 people from all walks of life have participated in the CSNS public consultation effort.

the MIWs listened to your views, just that your views didn't matter much :eek::eek::eek:
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

hahaha...the empty vessel rants and rants again....
truely an idiot when he claimed he knew LKY had a mistress and illegitimate son in taiwan from a reliable source and yet only know how to kpkb here.....
double confirmed a bullshitting empty vessel......
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

I agree with your comments.

With respect, the said committee should and must include at least one to three of the following:
1. NS soldiers who were privates or LCP;
2. NSF who were CPL or SGT during NS;
3. NSF who were completed OCS, were commissioned and ORD as LTA;
4. one SAFOS;
5. one officer who was awarded a SAF Trg Award or local scholarship;
6. one other rank and one officer who completed NS, and thereafter signed on as a regular.

Here we have a high level committee struck ostensibly to look into strenghtening NS. But this committee is a microsm of what is wrong with the PAP and SIngapore today. Literally hundreds of thousands of men have performed NS, so this is not a trivial matter. But look at who is on this committee.

- A Minister of Defence who was never a general, but a surgeon and a medical officer supposedly doing his NS in Mindef. DOes anyone here really consider a doctor's stint in the SAF to be truly representative of an NS experience. Obviously not.
- 3 members who are current or former regular sign on officers and now holding the rank of general, i.e. Chan Chun SIng, Perry Lim, and Ng Chee Meng. Again 3 characters who have never done NS.
- 2 women, Amy Khor and Luisa Lee. Unless they were serving NS as comfort women, I fail to see how they can possibily know anything about an NS experience, much less how to strenghten it.
- More Drs. like Dr. Lim Wee Kiak and Dr. Bervyn Lee.

And the rest of the committee are populated by your PAP porlumpars such as Perm Secs, SPH editors, Mediacorpse executives, etc. How can this type of committee be representative of 450,000 NSmen? They are comprised of either people who have never served NS or of elites. Where is the taxi driver, or hawker, or those other occupations now occupied by formerly peng kias and the average singapore Joe who did his NS? Not represented at all. In other words, this committee meeting for the 7th time and costing god knows how many millions knows fuck all about strengthening NS.

But this is representative of how the PAP runs things. We have SAF generals who have no corporate experience running SMRT. Every where, people who are poorly or totally unqualified are placed in areas of responsibility because they are beholden to the PAP and are their loyal lackeys. The result from all this inevitable incompetence is now demonstrated every day. Crowded MRT breaking down all the time. Not enough housing because one hand let in millions of FT without the other hand figuring out u must build flats to accomodate them. An Engineer being put in charge of $100 billion plus soveriegn funds and than losing billions $. And all these lackeys don't dare to tell the GAY emperor he has no clothes.


High-level committee looking to strengthen support for NSmen holds seventh meeting

SINGAPORE - Members at the meeting discussed several recommendations, which follow the latest round of public feedback. These include suggestions to improve the way the Individual Physical Proficiency Test is managed, and boosting measures to support national servicemen in areas of housing, healthcare and education. Another idea is to expand the roles of the Advisory Council on Community Relations in Defence and the SAF Veterans' League to deepen engagement with key stakeholders.

The Committee to Strengthen National Service (CSNS), chaired by Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen, held its 7th Steering Committee Meeting at the SAFRA Mount Faber earlier this morning.

During the meeting, the "Support for NS" and "Recognition and Benefits for National Service" Working Groups submitted their final reports to the Steering Committee. Members discussed the recommendations following the latest round of public feedback, including suggestions to improve the management of the Individual Physical Proficiency Test, expanding the roles of the Advisory Council on Community Relations in Defence (ACCORD) and the SAF Veterans' League to deepen engagement with key stakeholders, and enhancing measures to support National Servicemen in the areas of housing, healthcare and education. The Committee also discussed some of the suggestions which would not be taken up.

CSNS member Mr Gerald Singham shared after the meeting, "I am happy with the process and outcome of the CSNS. We met with a wide range of stakeholders so a lot of the recommendations are a reflection of what our NSmen would like to see. In terms of the actual recommendations, I think that they are meaningful and at the same time, it does not make NS into something that is too transactional. I personally feel that defence of our country is a sacred duty and it should not be reduced into something that is transactional."

More than 40,000 people from all walks of life have participated in the CSNS public consultation effort. The CSNS has reviewed the feedback and suggestions and will announce its recommendations by June. Members of the public who are interested in the CSNS journey may visit www.strengthenNS.sg to find out more
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

when come to this PAP has to create more nonsense jobs to pretend they care.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/publ...enomenon-of-nonsense-jobs-20130831-2sy3j.html


Here we have a high level committee struck ostensibly to look into strenghtening NS. But this committee is a microsm of what is wrong with the PAP and SIngapore today. Literally hundreds of thousands of men have performed NS, so this is not a trivial matter. But look at who is on this committee.

Members of the public who are interested in the CSNS journey may visit www.strengthenNS.sg to find out more
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

How can this type of committee be representative of 450,000 NSmen? They are comprised of either people who have never served NS or of elites. Where is the taxi driver, or hawker, or those other occupations now occupied by formerly peng kias and the average singapore Joe who did his NS? Not represented at all. In other words, this committee meeting for the 7th time and costing god knows how many millions knows fuck all about strengthening NS.

So you want clowns like this one instead? :rolleyes: I'm sure the likes of him would work wonders in strengthening the defense of nation.

21055-singapore-soldier.jpg


I started off thinking that your bizarre views were a result of your ignorance. I now realise you're just a twit who lacks the intellect to understand how things work in real life.
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

So you want clowns like this one instead?

21055-singapore-soldier.jpg

boss,
this soldier is a great leader in the makings! he delegates his duties and isn't ashamed to give all the sai-kang to his minions in future ;););)
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

boss,
this soldier is a great leader in the makings! he delegates his duties and isn't ashamed to give all the sai-kang to his minions in future ;););)

Shows how important Pinoyland is to Singapore. They'll be fighting your wars for you in future.
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

let's form a comedy, oops i mean a committee, to investigate the existence of various manifestations of knnbccb from knnbccb to knbcncb to knnccbb to knccbnb, etc.
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

Shows how important Pinoyland is to Singapore. They'll be fighting your wars for you in future.

i couldn't say it any better! time to abolish full time national service! can also shut those women at aware up for good!
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

let's form a comedy, oops i mean a committee, to investigate the existence of various manifestations of knnbccb from knnbccb to knbcncb to knnccbb to knccbnb, etc.

A committee should be formed to find out how to deal with ungrateful wretches like Papsmearer who show no gratitude whatsoever towards the man who transformed the country.
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

i couldn't say it any better! time to abolish full time national service! can also shut those women at aware up for good!

I'm sure the Pinoys will abolish full time NS once their conquest of Singapore is complete.
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

I'm sure the Pinoys will abolish full time NS once their conquest of Singapore is complete.

can we depend on ah tiong and ah neh as support contingents?
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

A committee should be formed to find out how to deal with ungrateful wretches like Papsmearer who show no gratitude whatsoever towards the man who transformed the country.

i like to join the committee as the principal examiner in conducting a biopsy on her cervix. that may fulfill her fantasy of finally getting a pap smear. :p
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

can we depend on ah tiong and ah neh as support contingents?

they have already built encampments along the beach head at east coast to house friendly forces. ;)
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

boss,
this soldier is a great leader in the makings! he delegates his duties and isn't ashamed to give all the sai-kang to his minions in future ;););)

This soldier makes a great PAP MP in the near future.
 
Re: High Level Committee to Strengthen NS (CSNS): Shows all that is wrong with the PA

So many 'important' and overpaid individuals deliberating over a year on how to reward conscripts. This is the mother of triviality. Rewarding people is not rocket science or algorithmic trading. This can be done in a week, max. And you definitely don't need that many heads to come together to formulate it.
 
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