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Opposition-bashing in "Opposition unity" forum

Darkcloud

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http://notmysdp.blogspot.com/2009/02/opposition-bashing-in-sdps-opposition.html

Opposition bashing in forum on "opposition unity". Sounds like a misnomer? That's what exactly happened in a SDP forum. An opposition forum to call for opposition unity. But this is what the speakers had to say:

"Potong Pasir has got no upgrading because the people want opposition and they want the opposition which they voted into parliament to be a catalyst for the growth of opposition in Singapore, but are they getting it?" - SDP supporter Jufrie Mahmood, questioning the leadership of Chiam See Tong (who BTW does not belong to his party)

"As a party leader they even dare not make the move to go into a GRC and win a GRC. The people of Potong Pasir and Hougang have been betrayed because the opposition has not grown after so many years." - Jufrie Mahmood thinks Chiam and Low Thia Kiang has "no guts" and slams them for being traitors to the opposition's cause (as an opposition member himself he thinks he is not partly responsible for the opposition's state)

"Worse still, some opposition MPs remain silent when asked pertinent questions in parliament." - SDP supporter Ng E Jay criticizing opposition MPs (remember this was the guy who pleaded guilty when faced with a pertinent challenge)

"All opposition parties need only be clear of the fact that they exist to challenge the ruling party, not to give them a passing grade." - Ex-WP candidate Chia Ti Lik, bashing his ex-party's ex-SG (again). Low gave PAP a "passing grade" some time back.

If you notice, all 3 who criticize the opposition are with the SDP. Jufrie, Ng and Chia are heavily involved in SDP and are part of the TBT18 (or TBT16 minus Ng and another SDP guy who pleaded guilty. So much for "unity")

These are the following people who talk about opposition unity. Look at the facts and ask yourselves if they are fit to.

1. Jufrie Mahmood stood for elections under JBJ's WP in 1984, then switched to the "gutless traitor" Chiam's SDP in '88. For abandoning JBJ for Chiam years ago, he now sheds crocodile tears as a JBJ "supporter" in Hong Lim park and becomes a critic of Chiam.

He rejoined WP again in '91 and back to SDP again in '97. Does an opposition unity "advocate" need to keep switching parties?

2. Ng E Jay has called for opposition unity for the most times this writer can remember, but did nothing to further the cause. If anything, he prides himself as critic of the main opposition WP (because they have MPs in parliament and he thinks he can do better)

3. Chia Ti Lik resigned from WP out of spite and badmouthed his party to the press. As a SDP supporter now, he wants SDP to work with WP.

4. Sin Kek Tong (a former SDP member) led a pro-Chiam group which ruptured from SDP after Chee ousted Chiam. He is now chummy with his ex-party and ex-nemesis again. After seeing how Chiam got "bitten" by his protege, he criticizes Chiam for not working towards unity.

5. No. 1 "Wayang" Award goes to none other than their leader Chee Soon Juan, who said the opposition should "prosper thy neighbour, not beggar thy neighbour". Yet he keeps all the "beggar thy neighbours" at his side and appoints them to speak at the forum.

The best sayings must come from Alex Au of Yawning Bread:

"It was already quite directionless as the panelists presented their carefully prepared seven minutes each, but at question time, the wheels fell off the whole project."

"They were refreshingly honest, but how such frankness squares with opposition unity, which they all said they hoped for, escapes me."

- http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2009/yax-981.htm

Maybe the opposition MPs knew what they were going to expect and chose not to associate themselves with the SDP clowns, because they know their places in parliament have often invoked the jealousy of the SDP chaps.
 

Darkcloud

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The part about change-t-shirt-then-plead-guilty SABOKING ng e jay is the best!

"Worse still, some opposition MPs remain silent when asked pertinent questions in parliament." - SDP supporter Ng E Jay criticizing opposition MPs (remember this was the guy who pleaded guilty when faced with a pertinent challenge)"

HAHAHA! How true!!
 

commoner

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I am always wary of these opposition-bashing oppoistion-discrediting people....... my theory is they are planted by PAP to destroy credibility of Opposition,,,

Heard about these people even before THE DEPARTED even shown,,,,

PAP is good, and they are very good

must know where to look for these 2-5 zai,,,,,,
 

Darkcloud

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Everybody now know the PAP plant change-t-shirt-then-plead-guilty SABOKING ng e jay:

remember this was the guy who pleaded guilty when faced with a pertinent challenge

Hahahaha. So true!
 

God Meng Seng

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The part about change-t-shirt-then-plead-guilty SABOKING ng e jay is the best!
"Worse still, some opposition MPs remain silent when asked pertinent questions in parliament." - SDP supporter Ng E Jay criticizing opposition MPs (remember this was the guy who pleaded guilty when faced with a pertinent challenge)"

HAHAHA! How true!!


Well done!! Bravo, Darkcloud!!!!

Darkcloud, you have condemned my arch enemies very well.

Would you be my instrument?

God Meng Seng
 

Angelo

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goh meng seng you are past your time. why dont u go and die instead?

heres a video to keep you happy u old fag.

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God Meng Seng

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EXCUSE ME, YOU HERETIC! THIS IS GOD MENG SENG HERE, the dread God of Ang Mo Kio, the architech of WP's 43.9% margin in Aljunied which I ALONE, yea, I ALONE caused to be.

Atone for your isolence or PREPARE TO PERISH!

God Meng Seng
 

Angelo

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EXCUSE ME, YOU HERETIC! THIS IS GOD MENG SENG HERE, the dread God of Ang Mo Kio, the architech of WP's 43.9% margin in Aljunied which I ALONE, yea, I ALONE caused to be.

Atone for your isolence or PREPARE TO PERISH!

God Meng Seng
old fucker not yet sleep?

poke eyes and see stars again?

go and die, you worthless old fart. It'll make ang moh kio a better place.
 

kakowi

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The outcome of all these opposition disunity is to cause voters to evaluate the oppositions separately.

It is no longer about voting oppositions - but rather which opposition is the right one to be voted for, with the rest to be rejected.

A message passed on to the voters by the oppositions themselves.

Creating an unneccessary dimension.

Maybe the SDP should keep quiet about other opposition leaders for the next four months?

Or at least talk only about those areas where their respective self-interest creates semblance of unity?

And emphasize only on those areas.
 

leetahbar

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The outcome of all these opposition disunity is to cause voters to evaluate the oppositions separately.

It is no longer about voting oppositions - but rather which opposition is the right one to be voted for, with the rest to be rejected.

A message passed on to the voters by the oppositions themselves.

Creating an unneccessary dimension.

Maybe the SDP should keep quiet about other opposition leaders for the next four months?

Or at least talk only about those areas where their respective self-interest creates semblance of unity?

And emphasize only on those areas.

those who had criticised about other opps parties particularly wp and nsp where ltk n gms dwell, have yet to affirm or reveal to everyone whether they were members of SDP.

when they brag about "supporting opposition", do they mean only support SDP which is facing extinction and then discredit other opp parties?

from observation, they seemed to be ostracising or mocking other opp parties other than SDP which is the biggest clown circus here.

but do we ever hear them admitting they are sdppies?:confused:
 

yellow_people

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The outcome of all these opposition disunity is to cause voters to evaluate the oppositions separately.

It is no longer about voting oppositions - but rather which opposition is the right one to be voted for, with the rest to be rejected.

I've already been thinking along this lines given the antics of GMS and the WP since the 2006 GE. No point in voting clowns or pseudo oppo into parliament.

If an election were to be held in Aljunied GRC tomorrow and the PAP contested the WP, making it a hobson's choice for me; I will spoil my vote instead of voting for the WP as I have done in the past.

I am estimating there are at least 10% to 15% of disillusioned voters like me who voted the WP and assuming the rest remains constant that should take the tally for the WP in Aljunied down to 30 or 35% at most.
 

char_jig_kar

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I've already been thinking along this lines given the antics of GMS and the WP since the 2006 GE. No point in voting clowns or pseudo oppo into parliament.

If an election were to be held in Aljunied GRC tomorrow and the PAP contested the WP, making it a hobson's choice for me; I will spoil my vote instead of voting for the WP as I have done in the past.

I am estimating there are at least 10% to 15% of disillusioned voters like me who voted the WP and assuming the rest remains constant that should take the tally for the WP in Aljunied down to 30 or 35% at most.

count me in. i am a anti-pap. but i will not vote for pseudo opposition such as WP too.
 

char_jig_kar

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why WP is pseudo opposition? so many action from them u can see for yourself.

WP candidate, go vote for PAP during GE (still hang around in WP, didn't get sack...)? Low Thia Khiang give PAP gahmen passing grade? Low Thia Khiang said that WP cannot form govt in 20 years? Sylvia defend spore's kangaroo court? etc etc etc etc etc etc.

What u need? NEON LIGHTS AND BILLBOARD SIGN TO UNDERSTAND THAT WP IS A PSEUDO OPPOSITION? MICROSOFT POWERPOINT SLIDES? FLOW CHART? GEEZE!
 

Avantas

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What if WP is the only opposition party which can win a GRC ?

Would you prefer to have 84 PAP MPs or 79 PAP MPs and 5 WP MPs in Parliament ?

why WP is pseudo opposition? so many action from them u can see for yourself.

WP candidate, go vote for PAP during GE (still hang around in WP, didn't get sack...)? Low Thia Khiang give PAP gahmen passing grade? Low Thia Khiang said that WP cannot form govt in 20 years? Sylvia defend spore's kangaroo court? etc etc etc etc etc etc.

What u need? NEON LIGHTS AND BILLBOARD SIGN TO UNDERSTAND THAT WP IS A PSEUDO OPPOSITION? MICROSOFT POWERPOINT SLIDES? FLOW CHART? GEEZE!
 

Perspective

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Even with all the obvious flaws of the SDP showing them to be as flawed as the PAP, I am prepared to vote it over the PAP any time.

I am surprised those in support of this party would spoil their votes when it comes to other opposition.

What's more, wanting the PAP to increase its winning margin.
 

char_jig_kar

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Even with all the obvious flaws of the SDP showing them to be as flawed as the PAP, I am prepared to vote it over the PAP any time.

I am surprised those in support of this party would spoil their votes when it comes to other opposition.

What's more, wanting the PAP to increase its winning margin.

wat's so surprising?

supposed i live in a area, whereby there's only 2 hardware shops. its 2 hours commuting time to hardware shop outside the area.

now, shop A, is fucking rude. shop B, is just slightly better. but the shop B attitude, the shop owner and his staff come straight up and say, 'look, if u don't buy from us, u gotta screw by shop A anyway." and they smirk.

i don't fuck care they are just two hardware shops around. i will boycott them.
 

char_jig_kar

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both shops think they could makan, bully the customers in the area. shop A the worst. shop B, slightly better. but shop B also full of attitude.

question is do the residents of the area has got a choice? yes, boycott these two motherfucker hardware shops. and go to hardware shop outside the town, or go online.
 
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