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Sometimes I find it really hard to always hate LKY.

kongsimi

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He maybe he jerk but...

Whenever I see such situation I always think SGP is blessed by God to give us LKY instead of some corrupt politicians like the leaders of these people, who are living in the most wealthiest part of the continent.

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myfoot123

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He maybe he jerk but...

Whenever I see such situation I always think SGP is blessed by God to give us LKY instead of some corrupt politicians like the leaders of these people, who are living in the most wealthiest part of the continent.

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Selective comparison again. Different leader may lead to different outcome. What makes you think that if Toh Chin Chye or others became leader, we may not become Asia's switzerland? Besides, the real architech of Singapore is everyone in the pioneer team other than LKY who resort to tyranny and gangster politics. Besides, look at all those in control now, ain't them Lee's families members and Singaporeans are now held in ransom by these few members? I am not proud of the current consequences that were plotted ahead during the lee's time.
 

Rogue Trader

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Old Man did some good in the beginning because of peer pressure from the other 1st Gen PAP vanguards.

When they left or were subsequently removed, his true colours began to show.
 

singveld

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they should go back to india, all they do is steal, pickpocket and beg money in europe, they are trouble.
 

PWNED

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Sometimes I find it really hard to always like LKY...


.. because i love despot leaders like them. :biggrin:

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Leongsam

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Selective comparison again. Different leader may lead to different outcome. What makes you think that if Toh Chin Chye or others became leader, we may not become Asia's switzerland? Besides, the real architech of Singapore is everyone in the pioneer team other than LKY who resort to tyranny and gangster politics. Besides, look at all those in control now, ain't them Lee's families members and Singaporeans are now held in ransom by these few members? I am not proud of the current consequences that were plotted ahead during the lee's time.

Without LKY's knuckleduster politics in the early 60s, law and order and stability would not have been achieved and the industrialisation phase would never have come to pass.

LKY had the mongrel in him that no other politician in his team had. The rest were technocrats not leaders. His foes were formidable. The rest of the founding members would never had defeated the BS without his leadership.

Singapore without LKY would have been like Apple computer without Steve J. Wozniak was the brains but it was Jobs that started the revolution.
 

myfoot123

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Without LKY's knuckleduster politics in the early 60s, law and order and stability would not have been achieved and the industrialisation phase would never have come to pass.

What happen now? He allows his idiot, retarded son to bring Singapore back to its 3rd world country by importing all the 3rd world foreign trash. Steve Job knows how to use talent and pay them well for success, but LKY relies on cheap trash to build artificial economy. The two cannot be compared.
 
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Leongsam

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What happen now? He allows his idiot, retarded son to bring Singapore back to its 3rd world country by importing all the 3rd world foreign trash. Steve Job knows how to use talent and pay them well for success, but LKY relies on cheap trash to build artificial economy. The two cannot be compared.

Singaporeans are to be blamed for that. A politician should never have been allowed to overstay his welcome. The founding fathers who wrote the US constitution were all too aware of human nature and limited Presidents to 8 years max.

In NZ, the electorate changes the government on a regular basis once they sense that the politicians are becoming too big for their boots. Helen Clark is a good example. She started off well but in her 3rd term of office started behaving like the empress dowager.
 

Leepotism

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Re: Sometimes I find it really hard to always like LKY...

Dictators are never liked. They are to be feared because they are evil.
 

myfoot123

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Singaporeans are to be blamed for that. A politician should never have been allowed to overstay his welcome.

Overstaying power are the result of gangster politics. 60% voters are too weak to think and lack of will for change. They belonged to the older generations make poverty and thus constantly living in fear that the gangster leader might deprived them of something. GE2016 is going to be an era of the learned voters, full of guts and valor. LHL time is over and with it goes PAP bad legacy. I can't wait.
 

singham

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you kong simi...??? do you talk like that in real life, ta tut ta tut...

ya, i find lky damn cute, especially the time when he was playing with his hello kitty doll... can you imagine that..???:biggrin::p

He maybe he jerk but...
 

tonychat

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He maybe he jerk but...

Whenever I see such situation I always think SGP is blessed by God to give us LKY instead of some corrupt politicians like the leaders of these people, who are living in the most wealthiest part of the continent.

Introducing the ROMA people from Romania.

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You are a PAP low life balls licker coming here to stir shit.. you better be on your guard now.
 
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iamhere

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the ONLY time I can bring myself to believe any papee is when anyone can show me an elephant and a pig up on a durian tree playing chinese chess.............




助李为孽者, 其后人将世世为奴,代代为娼!!!!!!!!!

REMEMBER to

VOTE papees OUT



do yrself, yr forefathers and yr generations to come, a favor, a service and a long-awaited justice





:wink::wink::wink::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::wink::wink::wink:
 

Asterix

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Without LKY's knuckleduster politics in the early 60s, law and order and stability would not have been achieved and the industrialisation phase would never have come to pass.

LKY had the mongrel in him that no other politician in his team had. The rest were technocrats not leaders. His foes were formidable. The rest of the founding members would never had defeated the BS without his leadership.

Singapore without LKY would have been like Apple computer without Steve J. Wozniak was the brains but it was Jobs that started the revolution.

First, Singapore was already the most prosperous place in Southeast Asia in the late 50s and early 60s. Nothing at all to do with LKY. Everything to do with the island’s strategic location at the tip of the Malay peninsula, the British Empire and its rule of law. Even rich Asiatics preferred to live under British rule of law than the chaotic state of affairs in China.

Please watch this video to see how prosperous we already were in 1957.

[video=youtube;nw7toyYrqjs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7toyYrqjs&list=PL294EC768067FAE30[/video]

Second, while the British granted independence to Singapore in 1963 and we were kicked out of the Federation in 1965, British bases and military forces remained on the Little Red Dot until the early 1970s. In other words, LKY did not have his own knuckle duster. The Sinkie armed forces were not yet formed. Even the Malayan regiments that refused to leave after we were kicked out of the Federation were no big deal. The British military forces still on the island can neutralise them if the British Prime Minister just gave the word. The knuckle duster in those times was not LKY or his cronies. It was the British military forces that were still on the island in large numbers with superior equipment and organisation.

Third, the Communist Insurgency had effectively been defeated by the time Singapore was granted formal independence. Otherwise, the British would not have done it. The Cold War was still being fought and if there was the slightest possibility that we will turn Communist after being set free, the British wouldn’t do it. This also explains the continued presence of British forces on the island despite Singapore being “independent”. They wanted insurance. De facto independence only arrived in the early 70s, when the British military forces were finally withdrawn and we had something of our own that could be called an army.

Fourth, a BS government in 60s will have to live with the presence of significant British forces on the island. They will be mad to try any Pol Pot style revolution when by that time, the CPM forces in mainland Malaya had already retreated to the jungles on the border with Thailand, not to mention that they will also need water from the Tunku just as the PAP did.
 
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Narong Wongwan

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Old Man did some good in the beginning because of peer pressure from the other 1st Gen PAP vanguards.

When they left or were subsequently removed, his true colours began to show.

true colors came out in the 80s......in the 84 elections time when old guards were picked off one by one and the ascend of his son as crown prince
 

The_Hypocrite

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Come to think of it. Singapore would be a better place under British Colonial rule. The new guard PAP has failed to deliver.

First, Singapore was already the most prosperous place in Southeast Asia in the late 50s and early 60s. Nothing at all to do with LKY. Everything to do with the island’s strategic location at the tip of the Malay peninsula, the British Empire and its rule of law. Even rich Asiatics preferred to live under British rule of law than the chaotic state of affairs in China.

Please watch this video to see how prosperous we already were in 1957.

[video=youtube;nw7toyYrqjs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7toyYrqjs&list=PL294EC768067FAE30[/video]

Second, while the British granted independence to Singapore in 1963 and we were kicked out of the Federation in 1965, British bases and military forces remained on the Little Red Dot until the early 1970s. In other words, LKY did not have his own knuckle duster. The Sinkie armed forces were not yet formed. Even the Malayan regiments that refused to leave after we were kicked out of the Federation were no big deal. The British military forces still on the island can neutralise them if the British Prime Minister just gave the word. The knuckle duster in those times was not LKY or his cronies. It was the British military forces that were still on the island in large numbers with superior equipment and organisation.

Third, the Communist Insurgency had effectively been defeated by the time Singapore was granted formal independence. Otherwise, the British would not have done it. The Cold War was still being fought and if there was the slightest possibility that we will turn Communist after being set free, the British wouldn’t do it. This also explains the continued presence of British forces on the island despite Singapore being “independent”. They wanted insurance. De facto independence only arrived in the early 70s, when the British military forces were finally withdrawn and we had something of our own that could be called an army.

Fourth, a BS government in 60s will have to live with the presence of significant British forces on the island. They will be mad to try any Pol Pot style revolution when by that time, the CPM forces in mainland Malaya had already retreated to the jungles on the border with Thailand, not to mention that they will also need water from the Tunku just as the PAP did.
 
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