Expect A Long And Protracted Guerilla Warfare In Sabah

[scroobal]

The invaders are from Sulu and not Sabah. Sabah is not their home. They are not fighting for their homeland. Its a bit of adventurism by an ageing chieftain trying to reclaim his ancestors past control over the region and hopefully get an additional payment.

Even the suluks who moved to Sabah from Sulu during the Mindanao insurgency prefer to remain under the Malaysians.

More or less can can rule out Guerilla warfare once the Malaysians crush the remnants .

 

[DuYunQi]

I agree with TS.. the Msian may have lost the momentum because it didn't see the arrival of the men to be a threat, and have taken too long to let things become unto this.

Chinese saying goes, "引狼入室" , loosely translated as allowing the wolf to come into the room.

There are lessons to be learnt here.. and pappies better open their eyes wide wide, if not.. they will AGAIN miss it.

Now, if the SG govt can realize that giving away FREE citizenships will not make those recipients treasure it, then the white paper could well be a death in the womb project.

When you get something free, you seldom treasure it until you lose it. That document is now free pass for those who "use" it to go to other places and countries.

Let's see if these new citizens will stand with us SG locals when there is time of crisis.

 

[winnipegjets]

The invaders are from Sulu and not Sabah. Sabah is not their home. They are not fighting for their homeland. Its a bit of adventurism by an ageing chieftain trying to reclaim his ancestors past control over the region and hopefully get an additional payment.

Even the suluks who moved to Sabah from Sulu during the Mindanao insurgency prefer to remain under the Malaysians.

More or less can can rule out Guerilla warfare once the Malaysians crush the remnants .

UMNO needs some issue to show up their incompetence and this could be the one.

 

[tanwahtiu]

agree. With $800B in reserve time to grab some of it in the name of ancestral land.

Huat ah. Wonder when will a random Malay sultan declare singapore as their ancestral land too?

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

The invaders are from Sulu and not Sabah. Sabah is not their home. They are not fighting for their homeland. Its a bit of adventurism by an ageing chieftain trying to reclaim his ancestors past control over the region and hopefully get an additional payment.

Even the suluks who moved to Sabah from Sulu during the Mindanao insurgency prefer to remain under the Malaysians.

More or less can can rule out Guerilla warfare once the Malaysians crush the remnants .

There are up to 900,000 ex-Pinoys in Sabah. Even if 5% supported the uprising, they will be able to create havoc in the area and beyond. If you read about Jemayah Islamiyah this is exactly part of their plan for a extremist muslim state from South Philippins up to Thailand and including parts if not all of Indonesia.

It does not matter if their claim is foolish as all that matters is for a few thousand hardcore islamists to believe in the claim. Then again their claim is not all foolish if you read the issues involved. Malaysia is definitely screwed for a long haul. Their only hope is to pay off these hardcore islamists and hope that this will silence the hardliners. These hardliners do want to spread their brand of islam across south east asia and they feel that they have a legitimate claim over that land.

 

[50000]

how come nobody say its najib that's paying the sultan to do this so that he can delay the elections and maybe (hopefully) win with a majority for showing his "strength".....

 

[Devil Within]

There are up to 900,000 ex-Pinoys in Sabah. Even if 5% supported the uprising, they will be able to create havoc in the area and beyond. If you read about Jemayah Islamiyah this is exactly part of their plan for a extremist muslim state from South Philippins up to Thailand and including parts if not all of Indonesia.

It does not matter if their claim is foolish as all that matters is for a few thousand hardcore islamists to believe in the claim. Then again their claim is not all foolish if you read the issues involved. Malaysia is definitely screwed for a long haul. Their only hope is to pay off these hardcore islamists and hope that this will silence the hardliners. These hardliners do want to spread their brand of islam across south east asia and they feel that they have a legitimate claim over that land.

Muslims.... Always the trouble makers.

Paying them off will not solve the problem. It will only make them grow bigger and stronger. The only way is to exterminate them once and for all. This will happen only when all Asian countries, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia government recognise these hardcore Islamist groups as terrorist group and work together to eliminate the problem. If not, they can always hide in one of the above countries to regroup and relaunch their attack once in a while.

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

You cannot exterminate them as you cannot differentiate them from locals. They speak and look like locals. Malaysia has to find a solution otherwise things will get messy for a long time. These fuckers want money first and conquer the land eventually. Give them the money and an autonomous state so that if they make trouble they will face the consequences of a destroyed country. It is also easier to fight an army than a bunch of terrorists.

It is a good thing that middle eastern hardcore islamists are tied up in Africa, middle-east and Europe. Otherwise, you can count on them coming over to Sabah to quench their taste for violent jihad.

 

[Devil Within]

You cannot exterminate them as you cannot differentiate them from locals. They speak and look like locals. Malaysia has to find a solution otherwise things will get messy for a long time. These fuckers want money first and conquer the land eventually. Give them the money and an autonomous state so that if they make trouble they will face the consequences of a destroyed country. It is also easier to fight an army than a bunch of terrorists.

It is a good thing that middle eastern hardcore islamists are tied up in Africa, middle-east and Europe. Otherwise, you can count on them coming over to Sabah to quench their taste for violent jihad.

These greedy people will not be satisfied easily. You give autonomous state, later they want your country.

You want to control them, control their religion first. Malaysia is doing this better than Indonesia, and Singapore is doing this much better than Malaysia. So anyone preach other than the set guideline will be arrested. After that, the rest will be easy. Understand that these groups grown from extremist preaching. You control their extremist views, you control them.

 

[tonychat]

The invaders are from Sulu and not Sabah. Sabah is not their home. They are not fighting for their homeland. Its a bit of adventurism by an ageing chieftain trying to reclaim his ancestors past control over the region and hopefully get an additional payment.

Even the suluks who moved to Sabah from Sulu during the Mindanao insurgency prefer to remain under the Malaysians.

More or less can can rule out Guerilla warfare once the Malaysians crush the remnants .

hey sinkie, you are posting again?? i thought you are unwanted here????

 

[jubilee1919]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Lahad_Datu_standoff#Google_search_results_alteration

I read about the 30 Malaysians death earlier but discounted using Wiki as the source as there is an ongoing cyberwar between protagonists from both countries. Each will re-edit Wiki to promote their cause and it is better to wait for official news for accuracy. So far, no Malaysian MSM has confirmed it.

Heheh why do i need Malaysian MSM to confirm it when, like Braddell road prostitutes, have forbidden foreign journalists, specifically Al Jazeera are serving their daily dosage of their propaganda? Fark Malaysia journalism.

Wiki is not a good source for accurate information and should not be used to support arguments, especially when warring parties continually edit the contents. I got this from your source a few minutes ago.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Lahad_Datu_standoff#Google_search_results_alteration

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

These greedy people will not be satisfied easily. You give autonomous state, later they want your country.

You want to control them, control their religion first. Malaysia is doing this better than Indonesia, and Singapore is doing this much better than Malaysia. So anyone preach other than the set guideline will be arrested. After that, the rest will be easy. Understand that these groups grown from extremist preaching. You control their extremist views, you control them.

In Sabah, the extremists are only a short boat ride away. And out of 900,000 of Pinoy origin there are certain to at least few hundred extremists. You can also count on a majority of the 900,000 to give safe refuge to the extremists both out of outright support and out of fear if they do not assist.

You give them a state so that they will lose a lot more than their tree and huts if they start their extremist ways. With a state ot without one their extremist ways will continue.

 

[MidnightSun]

Wiki is not a good source for accurate information and should not be used to support arguments, especially when warring parties continually edit the contents. I got this from your source a few minutes ago.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Lahad_Datu_standoff#Google_search_results_alteration

You are right but neither can u rely on Malaysian Press. In fact they edited it again after i posted yesterday.

 

[jubilee1919]

You are right but neither can u rely on Malaysian Press. In fact they edited it again after i posted yesterday.

What exactly did you post yesterday as I cannot find it.

 

[jubilee1919]

You are right but neither can u rely on Malaysian Press. In fact they edited it again after i posted yesterday.

I can assure you that there are many independent online newspapers such as Malaysiakini, FreeMalaysiaToday, Malaysia Today that are unlike our own Braddle Prostitutes. Forget Utusan and Star as they are pro-BN.

 

[Devil Within]

In Sabah, the extremists are only a short boat ride away. And out of 900,000 of Pinoy origin there are certain to at least few hundred extremists. You can also count on a majority of the 900,000 to give safe refuge to the extremists both out of outright support and out of fear if they do not assist.

You give them a state so that they will lose a lot more than their tree and huts if they start their extremist ways. With a state ot without one their extremist ways will continue.

You can never satisfy greedy pigs. Out of 900k, not all willing to die for cause. Most die out of religious instigation not out for land. Those that obey, give them Malaysian citizen for peace and livelihood as Malaysia citizen. Most will not reject such offer. Only small group of religious hardcore will fight for "jihad". You control their religion, you control them.

When majority have peaceful lives as Malaysian citizen, they will not support these religious hardcore idiots.

 

[MidnightSun]

What exactly did you post yesterday as I cannot find it.

I meant the screen capture of casualties from wiki, malaysian side edited it within an hour after my post.

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

You can never satisfy greedy pigs. Out of 900k, not all willing to die for cause. Most die out of religious instigation not out for land. Those that obey, give them Malaysian citizen for peace and livelihood as Malaysia citizen. Most will not reject such offer. Only small group of religious hardcore will fight for "jihad". You control their religion, you control them.

When majority have peaceful lives as Malaysian citizen, they will not support these religious hardcore idiots.

The 900K are already Malaysian citizens. The thing about these extremists is that they scare the moderate muslims into submission where ever they go. You cannot control the imams because they are the bearers of the religion.

 

[Devil Within]

The 900K are already Malaysian citizens. The thing about these extremists is that they scare the moderate muslims into submission where ever they go. You cannot control the imams because they are the bearers of the religion.

Kill the imans. These terrorist will never be satisfied. In Philippines, they say majority Catholic, they feel like second class. So they fight for power to control southern part where majority is Muslim. In Malaysia, no such problem as Malaysia is Muslim country. They become fist class citizens.

So if majority are having peaceful live and can make a living, they don't care who rule. Only power hungry terrorist borrow Koran to fight for power and many religious idiots being made used by these power hungry terrorist without even knowing and become terrorist fools.

Like I've said, control their religion and you solved half the problem. Singapore control religion with approved Imams same as Malaysia. But Malaysia a bit lax. Indonesia got no control and you can see some hardcore go around terrorising especially during their fasting period. Philippines got no control at all.

So when you control their preaching, only those fight for power and land control got problem and can be dealt with easily. If it is religious issue, problem can never be solved until you kill them all.

 

[jubilee1919]

You are right but neither can u rely on Malaysian Press. In fact they edited it again after i posted yesterday.

I said I could not find your post.