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We need Guard Dog not Watchdog Politics

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
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Chi Huahua as Watch Dog?</div>
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It pains me to write this article and it is not an Asian tradition to rebut your mentor even if the mentorship has ceased long ago. I will only publish this article on the eve of the cooling off day, just to make sure that PAP will not be able to use my points in their attacks. <br />
<br />
In an earlier answer to the press during the press conference, Mr Low has also explained why WP didn't work on Punggol East after last GE as WP is a small party and all resources were drawn back to focus on Aljunied and Hougang.<br />
<br />
I have written on why <a href="http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.sg/2012/12/insist-on-meritocracy-reject-mediocrity.html" target="_blank">WP should give this by-elections</a> a pass just before it was called. It is exactly the reasons given by Mr Low himself, as it is quite obvious to us that WP is really over stretched and it needs to put its own house in order first, after so many boo boos happened. The mediocre performance, not only on the parliamentary front but also on the Town Council management front, must be addressed. WP should have stopped and re-consolidate themselves first before trying to fight another by-elections.<br />
<br />
Imagine that if WP was already so stretched before this PE BE, what would happen if it was to win another seat in PE? Won't such victory put further strains on WP's resources? Is it wise for Mr Low to admit that WP is far too stretch to work the ground in PE but in the end, still insisted to get into this by-election to try and win this ward which they have already admitted that they are having resource constraints to work on? It is a glaring contradictions that PAP failed to pick but voters in Punggol East should seriously consider.<br />
<br />
I was told that prior to Palmergate, some residents who voted WP in last GE have emailed WP about the stoppage of work at the Rivervale Plaza upgrading but WP has ignored about it. In the end, it was Kenneth Jeyaratnam who took the trouble to make a visit to Rivervale Plaza and made noise about the work stoppage there. I believe these former WP supporters have decided not to vote for WP in this PE and they are right in not doing so! If this is true, then it is rather ironic that WP members has reiterated that they will be the voice of Punggol East Residents now on their rally stage when they have chosen to ignore their pleas just a few months ago!<br />
<br />
How much time and effort would it take WP to make a visit to the site to find out exactly what happen and make an appropriate statement about the stoppage? But WP didn't bother to do anything about it. It only came to their mind when the by-election was called! <br />
<br />
All these boil down to the kind of political strategy WP has adopted in the past 18 months. WP Chief, Mr Low Thia Khiang was reportedly said that <a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/punggol-east-election/story/wp-will-keep-close-watch-over-govt-20130119" target="_blank">WP 'will keep close watch of over Govt'.</a> In this news report, it says that WP has sent a flyer message to residents of Punggol East during this by-election to explain about WP's strategic positioning in parliament, most probably in an attempt to defend criticisms of WP's mediocre performance in parliament.<br />
<br />
His message to the Punggol East voters has somehow reiterated his "Watchdog Politics" which he has so famously coined in the past that WP wants to be a Watchdog, not a "Mad Dog". <br />
<br />
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He reiterated WP's commitment to seeing Singapore progress and PAP improve. But WP must also "be ready one day to be an alternative choice for the people, especially if the ruling party should become incompetent or corrupt".</blockquote>
<br />
My question is, is "Watchdog Politics" enough to safe guard our interests in and out of parliament? If WP is only committed to see PAP improve, is it serious about being the alternative to PAP at all? Is it serious in wanting to set its own political agenda and direction for Singapore? Keeping a close watch on PAP alone isn't going to make parliament First World in any sense. First World Parliament isn't gonna to evolve just by having opposition parties sitting down there and watch and hope the ruling party will become better. First World Parliament can only evolve when all political parties, including both ruling and opposition parties, to debate rigorously on various policies based on their own political belief that their policies best serve the Nation.<br />
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Our interests as a Nation can only be safeguarded if and only if the opposition parties in parliament can perform the role as GUARD DOG that could well bark and bite whenever it is necessary, not just a Chi Huahua Watchdog that will only give a symbolic bark but run away when challenged. A Guard Dog must prove its worth by its performance in responding to threats to any compromise on our interests. The recent AIM saga is a prime example of such impotency of Watch Dog politics. Why the issue of AIM wasn't raised immediately when WP found out about it instead of dragging for 18 months, after WP's competency in Town Council management has been put in doubt?<br />
<br />
Furthermore, as Calvin Cheng has rightly put in his <a href="http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/another-workers-party-mp-055050532.html" target="_blank">comment to Yahoo News</a>, the parliament is the place whereby key issues should be brought up by MPs to be debated. This should be done by filing a motion or adjournment motion whereby WP is well capable of since it has already had 8 MPs in parliament. But WP has failed to do that. Even when Sylvia Lim has filed an adjournment motion on the AIM saga, she has subsequently withdrawn it for some incoherent reasons.&nbsp; <br />
<br />
Such Watchdog mentality has set into WP quite deeply when we start to hear WP MPs and members talking about voters must vote them into parliament to make PAP works harder. On the other hand, they make claims that whatever policies made good by PAP is just because they were elected into parliament, sitting down there and watch. <br />
<br />
It is just like saying that "Vote us in because PAP is not working" and on the other hand, saying "if PAP is working hard, it is because we are there, thus vote us in". This is the Bao Chiat and Bao Yah (Sure Win) Watchdog strategy whereby, head WP wins, tail PAP loses. It disregards totally of whether WP MPs are performing effective or not and what is needed is basically a presence of WP MPs sitting in parliament.<br />
<br />
I do not think it is healthy for Singapore's democratic process if we were to cultivate such mediocre mentally. <br />
<br />
I would urge voters of Punggol East to consider very carefully what they want for Singapore, not just what they want for themselves. As an opposition activist, I would not encourage them to vote PAP but at the same time, I would also urge them not to vote blindly in support of opposition.<br />
<br />
It is especially so when your votes could either encourage or enhance unwanted political behavior or directions. A strong signal must be sent to all parties that supporters should not be taken for granted and parties should not expect blind support if they could only put up mediocre performance. Each and every vote counts in choosing the right direction for our political development for our future generations.<br />
<br />
Allow me to quote Calvin Cheng to end this post:<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><i><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #cc0000;"><b>The Worker’s Party thus has far bigger questions to answer than the PAP. When the Prime Minister asked where its policy alternatives were, the answer is obvious: they lay hidden in the depths of its Manifesto. The more crucial question is why a party which campaigned forcefully for more debate and a ‘First World Parliament’ has allowed these alternative policies to remain there, rather than forcing a fundamental rethink from the government by requiring them to stoutly defend its policies in the House.</b><br /><br /><b>At the end of the day, the Worker’s Party did not promise to run Singapore’s town councils better. The Worker’s Party did not even promise to solve bread-and-butter issues that Singaporeans face . Instead, the Worker’s Party promised that it would be a check-and-balance, that it would be a co-driver, and that more debate would lead Singapore to a ‘First World Parliament’. It is this, this that the voters of Punggol East, and perhaps Singaporeans at large, must ultimately judge them.</b></span><br /><br /><b> </b></span></i></span></blockquote>
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<br />
Goh Meng Seng<br />
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lockeliberal

Alfrescian
Loyal
Dear GMS

I believe Derek Da Cunha puts it best in a short article on his Facebook. The difference between a goldilocks porridge, to hot and to cold.

Thanks

Locke


http://www.facebook.com/notes/derek...al-parliamentary-opposition/10152134353768797


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Chi Huahua as Watch Dog?</div>
<br />
It pains me to write this article and it is not an Asian tradition to rebut your mentor even if the mentorship has ceased long ago. I will only publish this article on the eve of the cooling off day, just to make sure that PAP will not be able to use my points in their attacks. <br />
<br />
In an earlier answer to the press during the press conference, Mr Low has also explained why WP didn't work on Punggol East after last GE as WP is a small party and all resources were drawn back to focus on Aljunied and Hougang.<br />
<br />
I have written on why <a href="http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.sg/2012/12/insist-on-meritocracy-reject-mediocrity.html" target="_blank">WP should give this by-elections</a> a pass just before it was called. It is exactly the reasons given by Mr Low himself, as it is quite obvious to us that WP is really over stretched and it needs to put its own house in order first, after so many boo boos happened. The mediocre performance, not only on the parliamentary front but also on the Town Council management front, must be addressed. WP should have stopped and re-consolidate themselves first before trying to fight another by-elections.<br />
<br />
Imagine that if WP was already so stretched before this PE BE, what would happen if it was to win another seat in PE? Won't such victory put further strains on WP's resources? Is it wise for Mr Low to admit that WP is far too stretch to work the ground in PE but in the end, still insisted to get into this by-election to try and win this ward which they have already admitted that they are having resource constraints to work on? It is a glaring contradictions that PAP failed to pick but voters in Punggol East should seriously consider.<br />
<br />
I was told that prior to Palmergate, some residents who voted WP in last GE have emailed WP about the stoppage of work at the Rivervale Plaza upgrading but WP has ignored about it. In the end, it was Kenneth Jeyaratnam who took the trouble to make a visit to Rivervale Plaza and made noise about the work stoppage there. I believe these former WP supporters have decided not to vote for WP in this PE and they are right in not doing so! If this is true, then it is rather ironic that WP members has reiterated that they will be the voice of Punggol East Residents now on their rally stage when they have chosen to ignore their pleas just a few months ago!<br />
<br />
How much time and effort would it take WP to make a visit to the site to find out exactly what happen and make an appropriate statement about the stoppage? But WP didn't bother to do anything about it. It only came to their mind when the by-election was called! <br />
<br />
All these boil down to the kind of political strategy WP has adopted in the past 18 months. WP Chief, Mr Low Thia Khiang was reportedly said that <a href="http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/punggol-east-election/story/wp-will-keep-close-watch-over-govt-20130119" target="_blank">WP 'will keep close watch of over Govt'.</a> In this news report, it says that WP has sent a flyer message to residents of Punggol East during this by-election to explain about WP's strategic positioning in parliament, most probably in an attempt to defend criticisms of WP's mediocre performance in parliament.<br />
<br />
His message to the Punggol East voters has somehow reiterated his "Watchdog Politics" which he has so famously coined in the past that WP wants to be a Watchdog, not a "Mad Dog". <br />
<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
He reiterated WP's commitment to seeing Singapore progress and PAP improve. But WP must also "be ready one day to be an alternative choice for the people, especially if the ruling party should become incompetent or corrupt".</blockquote>
<br />
My question is, is "Watchdog Politics" enough to safe guard our interests in and out of parliament? If WP is only committed to see PAP improve, is it serious about being the alternative to PAP at all? Is it serious in wanting to set its own political agenda and direction for Singapore? Keeping a close watch on PAP alone isn't going to make parliament First World in any sense. First World Parliament isn't gonna to evolve just by having opposition parties sitting down there and watch and hope the ruling party will become better. First World Parliament can only evolve when all political parties, including both ruling and opposition parties, to debate rigorously on various policies based on their own political belief that their policies best serve the Nation.<br />
<br />
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<a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gBY5lSTR2wk/UP2QiocGYVI/AAAAAAAAAkY/GtuIOb_tr1c/s1600/guarddog.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="212" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gBY5lSTR2wk/UP2QiocGYVI/AAAAAAAAAkY/GtuIOb_tr1c/s320/guarddog.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>
<br />
<br />
Our interests as a Nation can only be safeguarded if and only if the opposition parties in parliament can perform the role as GUARD DOG that could well bark and bite whenever it is necessary, not just a Chi Huahua Watchdog that will only give a symbolic bark but run away when challenged. A Guard Dog must prove its worth by its performance in responding to threats to any compromise on our interests. The recent AIM saga is a prime example of such impotency of Watch Dog politics. Why the issue of AIM wasn't raised immediately when WP found out about it instead of dragging for 18 months, after WP's competency in Town Council management has been put in doubt?<br />
<br />
Furthermore, as Calvin Cheng has rightly put in his <a href="http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/another-workers-party-mp-055050532.html" target="_blank">comment to Yahoo News</a>, the parliament is the place whereby key issues should be brought up by MPs to be debated. This should be done by filing a motion or adjournment motion whereby WP is well capable of since it has already had 8 MPs in parliament. But WP has failed to do that. Even when Sylvia Lim has filed an adjournment motion on the AIM saga, she has subsequently withdrawn it for some incoherent reasons.* <br />
<br />
Such Watchdog mentality has set into WP quite deeply when we start to hear WP MPs and members talking about voters must vote them into parliament to make PAP works harder. On the other hand, they make claims that whatever policies made good by PAP is just because they were elected into parliament, sitting down there and watch. <br />
<br />
It is just like saying that "Vote us in because PAP is not working" and on the other hand, saying "if PAP is working hard, it is because we are there, thus vote us in". This is the Bao Chiat and Bao Yah (Sure Win) Watchdog strategy whereby, head WP wins, tail PAP loses. It disregards totally of whether WP MPs are performing effective or not and what is needed is basically a presence of WP MPs sitting in parliament.<br />
<br />
I do not think it is healthy for Singapore's democratic process if we were to cultivate such mediocre mentally. <br />
<br />
I would urge voters of Punggol East to consider very carefully what they want for Singapore, not just what they want for themselves. As an opposition activist, I would not encourage them to vote PAP but at the same time, I would also urge them not to vote blindly in support of opposition.<br />
<br />
It is especially so when your votes could either encourage or enhance unwanted political behavior or directions. A strong signal must be sent to all parties that supporters should not be taken for granted and parties should not expect blind support if they could only put up mediocre performance. Each and every vote counts in choosing the right direction for our political development for our future generations.<br />
<br />
Allow me to quote Calvin Cheng to end this post:<br />
<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span style="color: blue;"><i><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #cc0000;"><b>The Worker’s Party thus has far bigger questions to answer than the PAP. When the Prime Minister asked where its policy alternatives were, the answer is obvious: they lay hidden in the depths of its Manifesto. The more crucial question is why a party which campaigned forcefully for more debate and a ‘First World Parliament’ has allowed these alternative policies to remain there, rather than forcing a fundamental rethink from the government by requiring them to stoutly defend its policies in the House.</b><br /><br /><b>At the end of the day, the Worker’s Party did not promise to run Singapore’s town councils better. The Worker’s Party did not even promise to solve bread-and-butter issues that Singaporeans face . Instead, the Worker’s Party promised that it would be a check-and-balance, that it would be a co-driver, and that more debate would lead Singapore to a ‘First World Parliament’. It is this, this that the voters of Punggol East, and perhaps Singaporeans at large, must ultimately judge them.</b></span><br /><br /><b> </b></span></i></span></blockquote>
<br />
<br />
Goh Meng Seng<br />
<br />
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tanwahp

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Whether it is Derek Da Cunda's article or Goh Meng Seng's article won't make a difference to voters.

People have decided what kind of politics they want.

The issue is whether most people even want an alternative.
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
I guess you are mistaken. Now even people are trying to blame me for splitting and spoiling WP votes... haha..

Goh Meng Seng


Whether it is Derek Da Cunda's article or Goh Meng Seng's article won't make a difference to voters.

People have decided what kind of politics they want.

The issue is whether most people even want an alternative.
 

wwabbit

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Well, then they are wrong. You will influence no more than 0.1% of the outcome, whichever way it go.

.1%? That's like .1% overestimate.
Truth is most people have already decided how they want to vote. Of those that are still considering, I highly doubt any of them make their decision based on what one Goh Meng Seng thinks.
 

scroobal

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Loyal
GMS

After TKL lost his deposit, despite your support, guidance and influence, your credibility, your opinion and assessment from a political perspective carries little or no value. Both you and him were first of the block for the PE campaign. You guys had singular attention whilst others pondered participating and therefore had the stage, the opportunity and a clear advantage yet he lost his deposit. Both you and him used the social media more than anyone else.

If I were you, I would spend time attempting to recover credibility rather than make any further political assessment on anything including a chihuahua.
 
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nanana1

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Thakk you for this critical article, GMS !

It's worthy food for thought for WP and hope people do not just brush you off without really thinking.:*:
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
With due respect Scroobal,

I do not think I should stop commenting on politics as it is a freedom empowered by our Constitution.

Credibility is not a stagnant commodity. When time passes, people will understand and realize who have more credibility or less of it. There are always cases to cite, how people are proven wrong in such assessment.

As for TKL, it is his right to contest even if he lost badly, it is the consequences he will have to bear with. But he has not regret, so be it. This is after all, democracy at work. Nobody owes anyone any victory or favour... especially when one doesn't believe in "unity" at all.

This is all I have to say. The last thing we should do is to give voters LESS choices instead of MORE. Democratic development will give MORE choices to voters, not less.

Goh Meng Seng








GMS

After TKL lost his deposit, despite your support, guidance and influence, your credibility, your opinion and assessment from a political perspective carries little or no value. Both you and him were first of the block for the PE campaign. You guys had singular attention whilst others pondered participating and therefore had the stage, the opportunity and a clear advantage yet he lost his deposit. Both you and him used the social media more than anyone else.

If I were you, I would spend time attempting to recover credibility rather than make any further political assessment on anything including a chihuahua.
 

nanana1

Alfrescian
Loyal
As for TKL, it is his right to contest even if he lost badly, it is the consequences he will have to bear with. But he has not regret, so be it. This is after all, democracy at work. Nobody owes anyone any victory or favour... especially when one doesn't believe in "unity" at all.

Goh Meng Seng

And TJS even has the cheek to offer to mediate opposition "unity" in PE by-election candidates.:p
 

myfoot123

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Asset
Well, TCB lost by how many percentage points?... :wink:

Goh Meng Seng

How do you explain Tony Tan being a watch dog
Tan Cheng Bock being a guard dog
Tan Jee Say being a blood hound
Tan Kin Lian - your chihuahua?

And the watch dog went into Istana? Something must be wrong with the populace and not the politiician right? Having said that, any politicians who want to go into istana or parliament certainly has to adopt a different strategy.

It is easier to expect Worker Party to do this and do that while other opposition remained sidelined by the voters. Doesn't it prove what WP did is right from the start to capture the hearts of the citizens instead of what other opposition expected them to do?

Even if you were to go to PE with all these arguments of yours, do you think you can beat WP votes and what percentage would you garner? Hope you can give a more realistic answer to my questions more likely to capture the swing voters heart.
 
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myfoot123

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I guess you are mistaken. Now even people are trying to blame me for splitting and spoiling WP votes... haha..

Goh Meng Seng

Your splitting of votes is an over estimation. Everyone in Singapore know you are biased with hatchet. Ask anyone and they know GMS is sour about everythng WP.

Remember, you were most critical in Hougang BE and WP election result remained stella.

Coming back to being a guard dog. Low Thia Kiang Sec Gen of WP and GMS Sec Gen of NSP, comparing both of you, who is more resilience and who guard their party well?
 
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wwabbit

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WThis is all I have to say. The last thing we should do is to give voters LESS choices instead of MORE. Democratic development will give MORE choices to voters, not less.

In another words, you say that it is ok for TKL to come into the PE to provide voters with a choice.
But it is not ok for WP to come into MK to provide voters with a choice.
 

godiva

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Loyal
Yes GMS. WE need guard dogs (working for PAP?) like you.

Why didn't you offer your services as a guard dog in this BE? I have been trying to ask you to participate to no avail. :(
 

godiva

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Loyal
Your splitting of votes is an over estimation. Everyone in Singapore know you are biased with hatchet. Ask anyone and they know GMS is sour about everythng WP.

Remember, you were most critical in Hougang BE and WP election result remained stella.

Coming back to being a guard dog. Low Thia Kiang Sec Gen of WP and GMS Sec Gen of NSP, comparing both of you, who is more resilience and who guard their party well?

GMS the pap mole is a very fierce dog working for PAP.

He is very ready and very fast to bite on any WP missteps but when PAP has big scandals, GMS suddenly become meek. Very quiet in Palmergate. Like a church mouse. :p
 

kingrant

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If GMS is any good, he should have led a Party to contest in PE and give voters there an alternative choice and to Singaporeans another voice in Parliament. That way, he can stand tall and we will listen up when he criticise WP next.

As it is now, he sounds like a wounded puppy yelping about his being rejected. He has zilch moral authority to comment on politics, strategy or dogs.
 

myfoot123

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If GMS is any good, he should have led a Party to contest in PE and give voters there an alternative choice and to Singaporeans another voice in Parliament. That way, he can stand tall and we will listen up when he criticise WP next.

As it is now, he sounds like a wounded puppy yelping about his being rejected. He has zilch moral authority to comment on politics, strategy or dogs.

Seeing WP has grown and expanded, I believe those who left felt terribly regret for leaving WP. I believe there is still this deep-rooted sentiment in him that he missed being the WP members. He just couldn't let go. Like a child, if you couldn't get what you want, destroy it to prevent others from getting it and that was probably GMS current situation.
 
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