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Why can’t we also have free medical treatment?

Kinana

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In SG u die your own business. For gov, old people die faster even better. Because they are the parasite.
Gov wasting money $13b/year on SAF.
Just cut 50% will be enough for subsidy medical/education/bus/MRT/..............

Not true at all, there is medishield available. There is no way you can die because of no medical care in Singapore.
 

MBSSLOTS

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Not true at all, there is medishield available. There is no way you can die because of no medical care in Singapore.
agree there is medical care for all.
but quality is markedly different between a rich and a poor.
if you are poor, u need to wait in the queue even for a CT scan, or worse, the docs in public hospital are under strict guidelines not to order one unless u are really going to die. its all about dollars and cents to the PAP govt.

to be crude, a citizen's quality of medical care depends on how much money one has.

is this the right way forward?

is pap been hypocritcal by saying they need to be inclusive but surreptitiously penalising the poor?
 

Kinana

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agree there is medical care for all.
but quality is markedly different between a rich and a poor.
What exactly do you mean?

if you are poor, u need to wait in the queue even for a CT scan, or worse, the docs in public hospital are under strict guidelines not to order one unless u are really going to die. its all about dollars and cents to the PAP govt.
How long is the queue?
CT scans are expensive and destructive because of the radiation n should be used carefully. Even if you are a billionaire, don't anyhow use CT scan.


to be crude, a citizen's quality of medical care depends on how much money one has.
is this the right way forward?
You expect classless warded hospitals?


is pap been hypocritcal by saying they need to be inclusive but surreptitiously penalising the poor?
Poor not penalised, the rich are.
 

MBSSLOTS

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u are arguing with your brains and not your heart.
Anyway, hope u dont catch any sickness..
But anyway, even if you do, you are rich enuff to find a cure.
Good luck!
 

Kinana

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u are arguing with your brains and not your heart.
Anyway, hope u dont catch any sickness..
But anyway, even if you do, you are rich enuff to find a cure.
Good luck!

What exactly do you suggest? Classless wards? Free healthcare for all? Who pays for it? You?
 

Rambutan

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Pay and Pay policies often make us the laughingstock when we try to measure ourselves with other not so rich countries like Malaysia or even Thailand. Some say Canada is good.

The pap and pay policies has always been there. Except that they have been hitting selected pockets of the population. Only those who need to use their medisave to pay for the follow up consulation services were hit.

That we need to pay to use our own money in the Medisave is really rubbish.

Ditto for COE and the domestic helper foreign worker levy.

It does not help that the 154th prostitutes are busy doing damage control as well as avoiding such issues.
 

Rambutan

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That's why a key attribute of high CEP is to be cold hearted. It's like in Bourne movie, where Jason had to be able to kill a total stranger who is tied up in a corner, in cold blood to prove that he can qualify as field agent.

You don't see any ministers ever looking tired, do you? Except during election time, when they have to really look like they are working hard.

What about this?

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Rambutan

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No money in Medisave??? No money to by Medisheild???

I am surprised none of those PAP IB replied you.

No money in Medisave and No money to buy Medisheild? You have Medifund right?

But they won't. Because once they started talking about Medifund then they begin to open up a can of worms.

Go check thru the website and see where they mentioned how much one is covered. I gone thru the website and I could not find any. Instead I found lots of grey areas specifically:

1. Your family must foot the bill before approaching assistance from Medifund.

2. How much help? Depends. What a PR reply! Can't we have something more affirmative?

3. When will help arrive? After a "Medifund Committee" has considered. Meantime, if you die your business?

4. Finally to answer your question about no Medisave or Medishield - Pls refer to para 12 for an answer.

http://www.pqms.moh.gov.sg/apps/fcd...un8a8cR/MCHJiNFSlW68k7s2yEPEnehLKFiA/EMhuExA=

9. How can a person get help from Medifund?
If a patient or his family has difficulties affording their medical bills, they can approach the Medical Social Workers at the Medifund-approved institutions for assistance.

10. How much help will a patient receive from Medifund?
The actual amount of assistance provided will depend on the patient’s financial and social circumstances, as well as the size of the medical bill incurred.

11. Who decides the quantum of help from Medifund?
Every Medifund-approved institution has a Medifund Committee to consider and approve applications, and decide on the appropriate quantum of assistance to provide. Medifund Committee members are independent volunteers, and most are actively involved in community social work. They are familiar with the needs and problems faced by lower-income Singaporeans, and will adopt a flexible and compassionate approach towards applicants.

12. Will Medifund give greater help to those who contribute to Medisave and who are members of MediShield?
Yes. To encourage a greater sense of personal responsibility, Medifund will provide greater support to those who have contributed regularly to Medisave and who are covered by MediShield, but despite these have run into difficulties.
 

PAPIBCHIEF

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Kinana my ex-fellow PAPIB member....have u recovered your salary from the Centre?

For those who do not know, Kinana has only 1 friend in this Forum, and its ME.
Check his profile!
 

Kinana

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Wah opposition supporters so lame need to fake identity. ahahahahahahahahaha...........................

cheers
 

Rambutan

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Instead of calling opposition supporters moron and retard, it may do you a lot more good to go thru what has been posted earler.

If only we have less of these Jiak Liow Bees which include your president (since I did not vote for him and presumably you did) and your PAP ministers (since I also did not vote for them and you did) and all those extremely expensive Perm Secs (need to be expensive so that the ministers and ministers of state salary could be pushed up) it is likely that we could have a lot cheaper medical cost as well as other services.


which of your superb eyes saw me voted for MIWs? when limpeh voted in AP into parliment, u still playing police catch thief at playground.:rolleyes:

Problem in this freaking forum is that if you agree with any Government policies (even though you re objective and think is good) many chumps here will label you as PAP doggies.

I called these people Dr Chee Bye's dogggies!

Bro, think you misunderstood me. I am referring to wMulew - not you. wMulew was asking where the money would come from. I used your posting to explain if only we get rid of those JLBs we would have massive savings to fund free medical treatment.

then i m very sorry.:o

Senior Bro eErotica69, did you call me a "Dr Chee Bye's dogggies".

I want to say I am not.

It is also about time you should say sorry for calling me a "Dr Chee Bye's dogggies".
 

winnipegjets

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Not true at all, there is medishield available. There is no way you can die because of no medical care in Singapore.

You could die of a heart attack after receiving the bill or after spending years trying to pay off the outstanding bill from your last stay in the hospital.

Unless you are poor, health care will cost you an arm and a leg. One serious illness will ruin your financial life forever.
 

winnipegjets

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What exactly do you suggest? Classless wards? Free healthcare for all? Who pays for it? You?

All sinkees chip in to pay for healthcare for all. Is that too foreign an idea to comprehend? When you are fighting for your life, the last thing you need is to worry about paying the bills.
 
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