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Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kopi

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[SINGAPORE] Genneva Pte Ltd, the gold trading company that has been the subject of a literal run by its customers, is under investigation by the Commercial Affairs Department (CAD) for alleged "financial improprieties".

Its Orchard Tower offices were raided by CAD yesterday. The office is closed and its website is frozen. A number of employees were taken in for questioning. The police has confirmed that investigations are ongoing.

Matthew Kurian of Regent Law, who is retained by Genneva as its legal counsel, said that the firm is conducting its own internal investigation and has appointed forensic accountants. "The company intends to honour all its obligations. They are coming up with a plan."

A letter by Lim Kieng Justin, who has just taken over as Genneva general manager, said that the discovery of financial improprieties "some time back" has led to a delay in the payment of discounts, commissions and fulfilment of buy-back guarantees. The letter, dated Sept 28, was posted on the Web.

Mr Lim is a director of an apparently related company, Genneva World Pte Ltd, which was registered for business in March this year. He is not a director of Genneva.

Mr Lim wrote that the directors have lodged the necessary police reports and put in place new management staff. ". . . the directors are in the midst of negotiations with an external party who is prepared to assist the company and see it through this financial crisis. The objective of the directors is to ensure that all obligations to the company's customers and consultants are met."

He also wrote that the company would organise dialogue sessions with customers and agents in 7-10 working days. He urged customers and agents to remain calm and "help us work out (an) amicable solution for everyone".

Genneva is understood to have received several letters of demand from aggrieved customers who have entrusted gold to the firm or are owed the fulfilment of Genneva's buyback undertaking.

BT reported last week that at least two customers have filed suits in the Subordinate Court for Genneva to fulfil the terms of its buyback. At least one has secured an interlocutory judgement pending an assessment of costs. Prior to the judgement, Genneva did not respond nor contest the suit. Mr Kurian said that Genneva was looking into making an application to the courts for the judgement to be set aside and to file a defence.

Goh Kok Yeow of De Souza Lim & Goh, who represents the plaintiff Lee Bee Ghok in the case, said: "We will not agree and will vigorously oppose the application because they have no legal reason to do so."

Genneva operates under a police licence that allows it to deal in second-hand gold. Its model is to sell gold to customers at a hefty premium to the market. As at August, it listed a price of $96 per gram on its website. The indicative retail gold price at UOB yesterday was about $70.15 per gram or $70,149 per kilobar.

Genneva customers buy gold at a 1.5 or 2 per cent so-called discount off its list price. Genneva undertakes to buy back the gold in one or three months, at the list price, and customers pocket the 1.5 or 2 per cent discount. Assuming a monthly rollover, they stand to earn as much as 24 per cent year. Lately, some customers have been offered a discount of as much as 2.5 per cent.

The last few weeks have seen Genneva grapple with its worst case market scenario - that of a rush among customers for the exit. In that time, it has imposed a limit on the daily buyback of gold that it can do - reportedly five kilobars a day. Agents are also reportedly owed commissions for more than six months.

Three Genneva directors - Marcus Yee Yuen Seng, Ng Poh Weng and Chin Wai Leong, who are also directors of Genneva Sdn Bhd - are being sued by Bank Negara in Malaysia for alleged illegal deposit taking and alleged offences under anti-money laundering laws. The case is ongoing.

Genneva is in the Monetary Authority of Singapore's Investor Alert list, which tells investors to be on guard against unlicensed entities. Other gold companies such as The Gold Guarantee and Asia Pacific Bullion are also on the list.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

I keep hearing about this shop among my fellow low life scums. If scums are talking about it, its best that you avoid it.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

I've been invited to the talk by one of my idiotic friends who tried to convince me of what a great scheme it is. After the talk, I immedately warned him that it's nothing more than a con job. He refused to listen and continued pumping in a few hundred thousand. I must call him to find out how much losses he has suffered so far.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

This kind of scam just refused to go away. Amazingly, there continued to be people both stupid and greedy to fall for it.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

I keep hearing about this shop among my fellow low life scums. If scums are talking about it, its best that you avoid it.

Yeah a scumbag like you talking about it is a good indication it sucks.
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

This kind of scam just refused to go away. Amazingly, there continued to be people both stupid and greedy to fall for it.

What did I tell you guys about Singaporeans? :D

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Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Now we have a new white collar crime. it's called Gold Trafficking
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Sinkie really stupid.
Actual market price $70/gram but buying at $96/gram that nearly 1/3 mark up price,
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

What did I tell you guys about Singaporeans? :D

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"How can you leave out my yan dao picture?"
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Know some people who 'invested' big sums into this.......no news from them yet
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Know some people who 'invested' big sums into this.......no news from them yet



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Salespersons from this company/group


always said they got support from Former PM Dr M :)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

With such a 'strong' name as Genneva, no wonder many unsuspecting peopLe kena conned..:cool:
Am thinking to open a : Genneva 24hrs Bak Kut teh outLet..:)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

What did I tell you guys about Singaporeans? :D

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Phang's Sunshine Amount Involved exceeded S$200M.


Genneva's Amount (S$) Involved ???
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

With such a 'strong' name as Genneva, no wonder many unsuspecting peopLe kena conned..:cool:
Am thinking to open a : Genneva 24hrs Bak Kut teh outLet..:)


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i worry when people started
wearing "Rollex " watches :)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

This kind of scam just refused to go away. Amazingly, there continued to be people both stupid and greedy to fall for it.

Then there are those, who are not different from what you have mentioned?? who continually fall by the same 'marketing tactics' of the Taichi Chili Craps Enterprise..with the brand, PxP! :D
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

Sinkie really stupid.
Actual market price $70/gram but buying at $96/gram that nearly 1/3 mark up price,



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if they are not stupid the i worry .... :)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

.
if they are not stupid the i worry .... :)

The trouble is they cannot feel it in their bones...
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

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i worry when people started
wearing "Rollex " watches :)
i used to own one Made in China Grade A 'ReLax' submariner watch which cost me $200 pLus !..but damned reaL.
;)
 
Re: Genneva Gold Latest Saga : Office kena raided by CAD and staff invited to lim kop

If I were Genneva. I will tell them/customer. Genneva will buy back gold at open market price plus 2%. If dont like it/unhappy they can sell to others in open market.
Genneva did not done anything wrong.
Eg. Buy chicken egg 2 cent each but customer willing to pay 30 cent each what wrong??? No right as long as Genneva give customer actual weight of the gold.
 
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