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Simple Question on Big Bang

zhihau

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I suggest he try to disprove 2nd law of thermodynamics for his PhD thesis. If he is successful I am sure he will be very famous.

me think it is plain for everyone to see that none of us stated that the 2nd law of thermodynamics is flawed.

it was you and your friends whom claimed that the 2nd law of thermodynamics disprove the evolution theory, which we requested for your mathematical proof.

twisting and turning isn't gonna help you much in furthering your argument. putting claims in others mouth does you no better too :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

Kinana

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2nd law of thermodynamics says unproductive energy increases over time. So how can small particles become bigger and the simple become more complex? How did thought evolve from dead matter?
The law is so simple. No need to run to maths to explain, neither did any of yourt math do anything to prove that law of entrophy supports evolution.
 
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vamjok

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2nd law of thermodynamics says unproductive energy decreases over time. So how can small particles become bigger and the simple become more complex? How did thought evolve from dead matter?
The law is so simple. No need to run to maths to explian, neither did any of yourt math do anything to prove that law of entrophy supports evolution.

this is not the 2nd law of thermodynamic LOL. HAHAHHAHAHA STUPIDITY HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

this is the beauty of equation, you understand it you get it. you know when someone talk tons of rubbish you can recognised it immediately as the language of physics is maths.
 
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Kinana

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sorry for my typo sir, its increasing, not decreasing.

You want to do phd thesis to prove evolution bro?
 

vamjok

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You want to do phd thesis to prove evolution bro?
it has long being proven and accepted in sci community, no one will be able to publish good journal by proving such simple facts and pass his phd, we already learn this in year 1 junior years. this is the 2012, not 1800 stupid fuck.
 

Kinana

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the essence with respect to theory of evolution is correct.
Looks like you trying to run away again bro.

So you wanna to do phd thesis to prove evolution bro?
 

zhihau

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2nd law of thermodynamics says unproductive energy increases over time. So how can small particles become bigger and the simple become more complex? How did thought evolve from dead matter?
The law is so simple. No need to run to maths to explain, neither did any of yourt math do anything to prove that law of entrophy supports evolution.

must do a full quote for all to marvel at this post, you're doing a better job than clinton666 :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
by the way, biologists used genetic evidences to support the evolution theory :smile::smile::smile:
 

vamjok

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obviously you are never in a phd program or know someone smart enough to be in. this theory that has long begin accepted, proving a widely accepted theory will not enable you to publish any quality journals as its too simple.

WHICH PART OF THE STATEMENT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? MEANING THIS IS TOO SIMPLE FOR A PHD PROGRAM STUPID FUCK.
 

Kinana

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i presented the law plain and simple.
Thats why you and zhihau both buddhists cannot handle it and want to run away and play word games. Ahahahahahahaa................
 

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Weird Logic Doesn't Explain Much

I would like to believe in Evolution and how dinosaurs evolved into the present day creatures; but so far, even the Big Bang can be a bit far fetch. How did the gravity that bound the small hot speck or pea disappeared ?

I thought the space must be in an absolute zero condition. The pea is not an absolute zero condition - there's something in a beginning ? Really, it doesn't make sense at all. Beginning must be nothing which is a true space of emptiness.

e=mc2 : a little mass to produce a huge amount of energy means that the other way round is also possible.

The universe had to be just a sheet of white paper with nothing in it.
 

Kinana

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Re: Weird Logic Doesn't Explain Much

Thats right bro. The Big bang theory is full of flaws and cannot be defended at all. Yet these jokers religiously want to defend it and get their big egos trapped as a result. What a bunch of fools!
 

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since u want mathematical prove how thermoD and evolution goes hand in hand, fair enough. Can understand a not is not my fucking problem if you are too stupid to grasp it.

Assume a single DNA consist of N base pairs and there are M number of molecules of DNA

S(total) = k ln N^M = KM ln N

mutation/evolution took place resulting base pair to be N + 1 (insertion), assumed no of molecules remain unchanged

S(total) = KM ln (N+1)

mutation/evolution took place resulting base pair to be N -1 (deletion), assumed no of molecules remain unchanged
S(total) = KM ln (N-1)


mutation/evolution took place resulting base pair changed yet number of base pair remains to be N , assumed no of molecules remain unchanged

S(total) = KM ln N

Assume all took place in the system

S(total) = KM ln N + KM ln (N-1) + KM ln (N+1)

dS = Final - initial system = KM ln N + KM ln (N-1) + KM ln (N+1) - KM ln N = KM ln (N-1) + KM ln (N+1)

as N >>>> 1 an integral dS > 0 (QED)

you want it, i give it to you. NOW YOUR TURN
 
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zhihau

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Re: Weird Logic Doesn't Explain Much

Really, it doesn't make sense at all. Beginning must be nothing which is a true space of emptiness.

it took me a long time to understand that an atom is essentially made up of empty space too :p:p:p
 

Kinana

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DNA?

Aren't we talking about big bang here? You mean big bang got DNA and got intelligent design?
 

zhihau

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i presented the law plain and simple.
Thats why you and zhihau both buddhists cannot handle it and want to run away and play word games. Ahahahahahahaa................

as of who is twisting words around and again, me think the readers know it better :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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zhihau said:
by the way, biologists used genetic evidences to support the evolution theory :smile::smile::smile:

Wonder whether you can concur with me that mutation of viruses is a direct manifestation of evolution? Why do doctors tell us to complete the full course of our antibiotics? Is it not because if we don't kill these bastards by strengthening our bodies and killing the bacteria that weaken us, these viruses will mutate to something that resist such treatment in the future?
 

Kinana

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Wonder whether you can concur with me that mutation of viruses is a direct manifestation of evolution? Why do doctors tell us to complete the full course of our antibiotics? Is it not because if we don't kill these bastards by strengthening our bodies and killing the bacteria that weaken us, these viruses will mutate to something that resist such treatment in the future?

Have you seen any viruses 'mutate' to something other than a virus?
 
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