Chitchat Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ancestry

[syed putra]

Re: Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ance

Because the Malay race is always easily bought. During ww2 they were bought over by the Japanese who promised them positions of power in the liberated colony. After that the donations from wahab Sunnis turned them hardcore conservative Muslims.

And most recently Chinese central government's cheque books turned them into very firm allies...

Japanese promised independence.and if they had not lost the war, malays wluld probably have japanese names i stead of arabic. Malays have no hatred for japanese, unlike chinese, whose motherland was invaded.some malays were sent tp japan for training during WWII and schools taught japanese too.

 

[Debonerman]

Re: Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ance

Japanese promised independence.and if they had not lost the war, malays wluld probably have japanese names i stead of arabic. Malays have no hatred for japanese, unlike chinese, whose motherland was invaded.some malays were sent tp japan for training during WWII and schools taught japanese too.

It was during that period the Malays considered naming their favorite beverage the teh tarek into "Teh Karate" but then thought the better of it.

 

[Satyr]

Re: Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ance

1. m&ds don't celebrate any festival that can link to their racial identity except Islamic holidays

2. m&d names are arabic names, incidentally more non-malay people like me are more curious to know their pre-islamic names and pre-islamic origin. Although the Iranians are muslims, they retain their persian names

3. Yes, more appropriate and concise to call them south east asia arabs rather than Malay

whoami, your comment will be the most salient here.

Is that news ? Islam isn't just a belief or religion. In it's purest form , it dictates, worship, social behaviour , economic practices, political governance and legal systems. The Malays in Singapore and Malaysia do not have as proud a culture as the Indonesians. So religion overpowers all else. Indonesians , apart from the radical elements, are much more balanced.

 

[duluxe]

Re: Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ance

Is that news ? Islam isn't just a belief or religion. In it's purest form , it dictates, worship, social behaviour , economic practices, political governance and legal systems. The Malays in Singapore and Malaysia do not have as proud a culture as the Indonesians. So religion overpowers all else. Indonesians , apart from the radical elements, are much more balanced.

You are right, Indons have more pride of their own culture and don't apt the arabs as finatically as the mudlays from sinkieland and mudlaysia.

 

[duluxe]

Re: Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ance

[h=1]More women in niqab at PAS congress[/h]

Women attending the annual PAS congress in Alor Setar last week could be spotted wearing face veils in addition to the now standard headscarves. Despite rising conservatism among Muslims in Malaysia, it is still unusual to see women in niqab on the street.ST PHOTO: TRINNA LEONG

ALOR SETAR (Kedah) • One visible indicator of Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS) turning more conservative can be seen in a small, but growing, section of its women delegates and observers who don the niqab - a face veil that reveals only the eyes.
The tudung or hijab - a headscarf that reveals the whole face - is considered standard issue these days in Muslim-majority Malaysia, but some women at the ongoing annual party congress took the further step of covering their faces with white or black niqab.
At the 600-strong meeting of the women's wing last Wednesday, more than two dozen were attired in niqab, including at least two of the 20 female leaders on stage.



This is admittedly a small number but still a big change from just 10 years ago, when face veils were a rarity at the party's annual meetings.
One female delegate wore a white niqab as she spoke at the rostrum during a debate on their wing chief's speech, even though the hall was packed with women, save for a few male reporters and photographers.

The turn towards deeply conservative dressing comes as PAS - the nation's second-largest Malay Muslim party after Umno - returns to its fundamentalist roots, an ongoing move in the past two years.
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Niqab were spotted among young women serving as ushers, older women delegates and party members who were attending the congress with their husbands.
Several women who run stalls at a bazaar by the side of the meeting hall were similarly attired.
The face veils were also more visible in the programme brochure for the party's women's meeting, in photos of female PAS leaders and at the party's various committees.
Even though the Muslim community in Malaysia is turning more conservative, it is still highly unusual to see women wearing niqab on the street.
The turn towards deeply conservative dressing comes as PAS - the nation's second-largest Malay Muslim party after Umno - returns to its fundamentalist roots, an ongoing move in the past two years.
During its five-day congress, which ends today, the party resolved to seek a constitutional amendment that would make it necessary for the country's prime minister to be Muslim.
PAS spent nearly eight years until 2015 as part of the now-disbanded Pakatan Rakyat opposition alliance, which took a moderate approach in its politics.
That alliance included the Chinese-based Democratic Action Party (DAP) and the Malay-led, multiracial Parti Keadilan Rakyat.
In 2015, policy disputes - chiefly between secular DAP and PAS over issues including hudud, or harsher Islamic punishments - caused the alliance to fracture.

 

[JohnTan]

Re: Why Malays find their Muslim identity to be more salient than their "Malay" ance

[h=1]More women in niqab at PAS congress[/h]

Women attending the annual PAS congress in Alor Setar last week could be spotted wearing face veils in addition to the now standard headscarves. Despite rising conservatism among Muslims in Malaysia, it is still unusual to see women in niqab on the street.ST PHOTO: TRINNA LEONG

ALOR SETAR (Kedah) • One visible indicator of Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS) turning more conservative can be seen in a small, but growing, section of its women delegates and observers who don the niqab - a face veil that reveals only the eyes.
The tudung or hijab - a headscarf that reveals the whole face - is considered standard issue these days in Muslim-majority Malaysia, but some women at the ongoing annual party congress took the further step of covering their faces with white or black niqab.
At the 600-strong meeting of the women's wing last Wednesday, more than two dozen were attired in niqab, including at least two of the 20 female leaders on stage.



This is admittedly a small number but still a big change from just 10 years ago, when face veils were a rarity at the party's annual meetings.
One female delegate wore a white niqab as she spoke at the rostrum during a debate on their wing chief's speech, even though the hall was packed with women, save for a few male reporters and photographers.

The turn towards deeply conservative dressing comes as PAS - the nation's second-largest Malay Muslim party after Umno - returns to its fundamentalist roots, an ongoing move in the past two years.
​

Niqab were spotted among young women serving as ushers, older women delegates and party members who were attending the congress with their husbands.
Several women who run stalls at a bazaar by the side of the meeting hall were similarly attired.
The face veils were also more visible in the programme brochure for the party's women's meeting, in photos of female PAS leaders and at the party's various committees.
Even though the Muslim community in Malaysia is turning more conservative, it is still highly unusual to see women wearing niqab on the street.
The turn towards deeply conservative dressing comes as PAS - the nation's second-largest Malay Muslim party after Umno - returns to its fundamentalist roots, an ongoing move in the past two years.
During its five-day congress, which ends today, the party resolved to seek a constitutional amendment that would make it necessary for the country's prime minister to be Muslim.
PAS spent nearly eight years until 2015 as part of the now-disbanded Pakatan Rakyat opposition alliance, which took a moderate approach in its politics.
That alliance included the Chinese-based Democratic Action Party (DAP) and the Malay-led, multiracial Parti Keadilan Rakyat.
In 2015, policy disputes - chiefly between secular DAP and PAS over issues including hudud, or harsher Islamic punishments - caused the alliance to fracture.

PAS is a rubbish party led by morons. They can't run a decent state to save their own mutilated cocks and they spend all their time coming up with harebrained ideas to further discriminate against non-Muslims.