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Why is Vivian keeping quiet on the Haze issue?

Sinkie

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You say some more, NEA will inspect every household to look for the source of the haze.
 

halsey02

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Palm oil as a cash crop for multinational corporations only took off in Sumatra in the 90s.

At least one of the firms is listed on the SGX.

One...Golden Agri, had been around for a long time, Wilmar...in the past, Sime Darby, PalmCo who else that I had forgotten...
 

Boliao

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Dunch be silly. What else can he do. He has already notify his Indo counterpart. WHAT CAN OPPO do either?
Stop blaming everything on PAP, you Twit!

He could have proposed to impose economic sanctions on Indonesia/ Indonesian.
 

wendychan

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He could have proposed to impose economic sanctions on Indonesia/ Indonesian.

which should have been done years ago.
every year its all one big wayang,
in any case, no big wig has died yet coz of the haze
 

CPT (NS) BRANDON

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The hard truth is the haze is around since 1998..the Asian crisis...and problems started once Singapore govt gave refuge to their corrupt Indonesian officials who park their ii-gotten money here...

Indonesian has make it a point not to relent and punish SINGAPORE ,on the quiet .

Singapore is not giving refuge to the CURRENT batch of corrupt government officials.

Rather, it is more likely that Singapore gives refuge to Suharto's family, Suharto's cronies, and other former corrupt officials linked to the Suharto regime. This regime lost power in the late 1990s and there was nowhere they could hide, so they came to Singapore. It is a known fact that LKY and Suharto were very close, and LKY was understandably distraught when Suharto was ousted through street protests.

It is thought that there are still billions of dollars of Suharto's own money parked in Singapore, even though the man himself is now dead.

The Indonesian government has made requests for Singapore to hand over the money, or at least disclose how much money there is, to aid them in their investigations of corruption. However, Singapore has steadfastly refused, claiming that they cannot violate the principle of confidentiality.

Obviously these billions are still parked here for the benefit of his family and cronies. Is Tommy Suharto still in jail? I would not be surprised if he came to Singapore to buy a luxury penthouse in Sentosa Cove after being released. I would also not be surprised if he attempted to open some kind of business in Singapore, like a KTV or a club (maybe buy over Mink)??
 

CPT (NS) BRANDON

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Since we are on this topic, I seriously do not know why the Singapore government has always been friendly and willing to provide refuge to corrupt leaders and crooks. Suharto is not the only example. Chen Shui Bian's money is also in Singapore, he can come here and enjoy life the minute he is released from jail. Singapore has also been known to do business with the Myanmar military leaders (not just the current moderates but also the hardline military junta generals from the past). And even Robert Mugabe has frequently been seen in Singapore seeking "medical treatment" -- more likely he came here to stash away his corrupt billions in our "secret" banks.

Firstly what conceivable reason is there for us to keep friendly relations with individuals like that? Cannot be public policy grounds, right? Surely it has something to do with their personal relationships with certain individuals in our establishment. We all know LKY and Suharto were extremely close when Suharto was still alive.

Secondly why does our local media NEVER report all of this stuff, there seems to be a black out on such issues??
 

soIsee

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Palm oil as a cash crop for multinational corporations only took off in Sumatra in the 90s.

At least one of the firms is listed on the SGX.

Wilmar?

I can even see a few Sinkie investors in there rubbing shoulders ever more so frequently with the ruling Elites here.

Talk about a small crowd whose personal interest laps over each other.

Now who would be really interested to stop the HAZE? LOL
 

soIsee

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Singapore is not giving refuge to the CURRENT batch of corrupt government officials.

Rather, it is more likely that Singapore gives refuge to Suharto's family, Suharto's cronies, and other former corrupt officials linked to the Suharto regime. This regime lost power in the late 1990s and there was nowhere they could hide, so they came to Singapore. It is a known fact that LKY and Suharto were very close, and LKY was understandably distraught when Suharto was ousted through street protests.

It is thought that there are still billions of dollars of Suharto's own money parked in Singapore, even though the man himself is now dead.

The Indonesian government has made requests for Singapore to hand over the money, or at least disclose how much money there is, to aid them in their investigations of corruption. However, Singapore has steadfastly refused, claiming that they cannot violate the principle of confidentiality.

Obviously these billions are still parked here for the benefit of his family and cronies. Is Tommy Suharto still in jail? I would not be surprised if he came to Singapore to buy a luxury penthouse in Sentosa Cove after being released. I would also not be surprised if he attempted to open some kind of business in Singapore, like a KTV or a club (maybe buy over Mink)??

Why should Sinkland give such shelter for those corrupt Indon?

It now breeds it's own! LoL
 

csi88

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VB can't even settled own problem want to bother other countries.......

Hawker spat and dengue can't even contain want Indonesia to identify company behind the burning.really dun now what to say about him.
 

halsey02

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Re: VB can't even settled own problem want to bother other countries.......

Hawker spat and dengue can't even contain want Indonesia to identify company behind the burning.really dun now what to say about him.

Should start naming the person who started the hawker centers cleaning issue...
 

po2wq

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Re: VB can't even settled own problem want to bother other countries.......

Hawker spat and dengue can't even contain want Indonesia to identify company behind the burning.really dun now what to say about him.
tis burger try 2 act tuff, wayang la ... he noes indon wud not gif him anyting ...
 

CPT (NS) BRANDON

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Re: VB can't even settled own problem want to bother other countries.......

So now Vivian wants his Indonesian counterpart to reveal the names of the companies that are causing the haze.

I wonder how he would react if Wilmar was named by the Indonesians. They are listed on SGX and their headquarters are in Singapore.

In another development, Tampines MP Irene Ng has called for Singaporeans to boycott all products from those Indonesian companies that are responsible for the haze. Would Vivian have enough balls to call for an official embargo on those companies? And if it still fails to produce results, the next step should be to call for an embargo on all Indonesian products as a whole!

Someone said that we already tax cigarettes at 400% due to the harmful health effects. So why not apply a 400% tax on ALL INDONESIAN PRODUCTS? This would hurt them real bad, and would force the Indonesian government to take action.

At this point, the Indonesian government will NOT take serious action because their corrupt officials are all good friends of the businessmen responsible for this atrocity. Only when REAL pressure is applied will action be taken. So does Vivian have the balls to do it? Isn't he supposed to be a Colonel in the SAF?
 

bryanlim1972

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Since we are on this topic, I seriously do not know why the Singapore government has always been friendly and willing to provide refuge to corrupt leaders and crooks. Suharto is not the only example. Chen Shui Bian's money is also in Singapore, he can come here and enjoy life the minute he is released from jail. Singapore has also been known to do business with the Myanmar military leaders (not just the current moderates but also the hardline military junta generals from the past). And even Robert Mugabe has frequently been seen in Singapore seeking "medical treatment" -- more likely he came here to stash away his corrupt billions in our "secret" banks.

Firstly what conceivable reason is there for us to keep friendly relations with individuals like that? Cannot be public policy grounds, right? Surely it has something to do with their personal relationships with certain individuals in our establishment. We all know LKY and Suharto were extremely close when Suharto was still alive.

Secondly why does our local media NEVER report all of this stuff, there seems to be a black out on such issues??

because we are economic sluts operating under the guise of pragmatism.

it used to say on the MFA website, we will cooperate with anyone for mutual economic benefit. that's since been replaced by some other mission and values statement.
 

whoami

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Re: Haze not even top news in Indonesia!

They r immune to such hazards lah.

Knew many crews. They told me their life like ikan bilis. Live day by day.

So wat is dengue, wats Avian Flu, wat haze....
 
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