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[Rogue Trader]

Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI averages

Refer to 24-hour PSI, not 3-hour: Ng Eng Hen

POSTED: 21 Jun 2013 8:32 PM


SINGAPORE: Defence Minister and Chairman of the Haze Inter-Ministerial Committee Ng Eng Hen on Friday urged the public to refer to the 24-hour Pollutant Standards Index (PSI) reading rather than the three-hour reading.

He said this was because the effects of exposure to pollutants are based on a "continuum" rather than a "threshold".

Speaking at a media briefing on Friday evening, Dr Ng said the effects of the pollutants "are not like bugs" and are based on factors such as the length of exposure, the density of the pollutants, and individual variation.

He added that most studies on the exposure to pollutants are based on 24-hour measurements. That is why the government's guidelines are also based on those measurements, he said.

The guidelines state if the 24-hour PSI goes above 300, healthy people should also stay indoors to reduce exposure. Those who need to work outdoors should limit their exposure to pollutants by using an N95 mask.

Dr Ng also echoed Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's point that the guidelines do not indicate a hardline for stoppage of work or closure of schools, as the haze is all around.

He said: "It is not sensible to have these thresholds now because for some, the home environment is no different from the school or work. So if you stop work or close schools, they go back to the home environment, the exposure is the same. It is not sustainable because it means a mass closure of outdoor businesses - airports, ports and other sectors."

The minister also urged Singaporeans not to feed on fear to profiteer for themselves.

He was responding to media queries on text messages that have been circulating; the messages had suggested that the haze could cause cancer or toxic rain.

- CNA/jc

 

[Microsoft]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

Continnum...lidat mus start looking frm...err...go look at ur ic bird day...

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

Nabei lau cheebye ask him bring his family go outside and breathe the air in that 3 hours period lor.
Chui kong lampar song.

 

[iamhere]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

FUCK PAP, FUCK PAP, FUCK PAP.........
MAY PAPEES, CRONIES N FAMILIES BURN ETERNALLY IN HELLS.........
MAJULLAH SINGAPURA.........
GOD BLESS SINGAPORE..............
REMEMBER to

VOTE papees OUT



do yrself, yr forefathers and yr generations to come, a favor, a service and a long-awaited justice

 

[ionzu]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

Nabei lau cheebye ask him bring his family go outside and breathe the air in that 3 hours period lor.
Chui kong lampar song.

he is taking the same line as jonathan kent: the world is not ready for the truth. same reason why uncle sam has not told us about the aliens at roswell.

but that's the problem with the present government, an acute lack of EQ. he's doing the right thing to prevent mass panic, but his idea of reassurance leaves much to be desired.

 

[ionzu]

Re: PAP and NTUC must get 5000 workers to protest in front of Indo Embassy and Burn T

Indo fuckers need to be taught a lesson. Lets go burn car tyres in front of their embassy and see how their ambassador breathe!

that's really silly. it will only make the air worse for your fellow citizens. the ambassador is breathing the same air as you, as long as he's in singapore. please re-check brain functions, malfunction may be haze induced.

 

[steffychun]

Re: PAP and NTUC must get 5000 workers to protest in front of Indo Embassy and Burn T

Indo fuckers need to be taught a lesson. Lets go burn car tyres in front of their embassy and see how their ambassador breathe!

Sorry the last time they did that was to protest against US First Secretary meeting with Marxist conspirators

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

he is taking the same line as jonathan kent: the world is not ready for the truth. same reason why uncle sam has not told us about the aliens at roswell.

but that's the problem with the present government, an acute lack of EQ. he's doing the right thing to prevent mass panic, but his idea of reassurance leaves much to be desired.

This motherfucker is a ENT specialist....fucker lying thru his teeth.
Ask him what the PM 2.5 particles can do to humans.
Lau cheebye his whole family drop dead from the haze.

 

[steffychun]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

As the Minister with the largest budget and a highly lethal force, why can't he try to be pro-active instead of making crappy statements? Why bother to buy F-35s when Indonesia kills citizens so easily

 

[Confuseous]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

A new approach seems to have been developed to communicate with sinkies - and that is to talk OVER their head.

"continuum" rather than a "threshold".

"we are price takers, rather than market makers"

Wonder how are these translated in the Malay, Tamil and Chinese press.

 

[palden]

Re: Action Plan Millionster, Action and not talking and smiling.

Today haze hit 400 and still they sit there to see whether anyone died. Defence Minister and Chairman of the Haze Inter-Ministerial Committee Mother Hen title so long take things so lightly. No wonder so many years no improvement. Isn't he abit highly paid to take things lightly? Wonder who get paid more, the MP of Muar or Mother Hen.

POSTED: 21 Jun 2013 8:32 PM


SINGAPORE: Defence Minister and Chairman of the Haze Inter-Ministerial Committee Ng Eng Hen on Friday urged the public to refer to the 24-hour Pollutant Standards Index (PSI) reading rather than the three-hour reading.

He said this was because the effects of exposure to pollutants are based on a "continuum" rather than a "threshold".

Speaking at a media briefing on Friday evening, Dr Ng said the effects of the pollutants "are not like bugs" and are based on factors such as the length of exposure, the density of the pollutants, and individual variation.

He added that most studies on the exposure to pollutants are based on 24-hour measurements. That is why the government's guidelines are also based on those measurements, he said.

The guidelines state if the 24-hour PSI goes above 300, healthy people should also stay indoors to reduce exposure. Those who need to work outdoors should limit their exposure to pollutants by using an N95 mask.

Dr Ng also echoed Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's point that the guidelines do not indicate a hardline for stoppage of work or closure of schools, as the haze is all around.

He said: "It is not sensible to have these thresholds now because for some, the home environment is no different from the school or work. So if you stop work or close schools, they go back to the home environment, the exposure is the same. It is not sustainable because it means a mass closure of outdoor businesses - airports, ports and other sectors."

The minister also urged Singaporeans not to feed on fear to profiteer for themselves.

He was responding to media queries on text messages that have been circulating; the messages had suggested that the haze could cause cancer or toxic rain.

 

[zeddy]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

He said: "It is not sensible to have these thresholds now because for some, the home environment is no different from the school or work. So if you stop work or close schools, they go back to the home environment, the exposure is the same. It is not sustainable because it means a mass closure of outdoor businesses - airports, ports and other sectors."

Fuck his mother cheebye lah.. If Sinkies stop goin to work then there will be less money for the PAP..

At the end of the day, its the usual PAP mantra.. You die your business, don't complain and just work till you die..

 

[Confuseous]

Alex Au: why no solutions we can implement ourselves all these years?

Yesterday, the government boasted that they had nine million N95 masks in stock.

The Ministry of Health (MOH) said Thursday that there are sufficient stocks of N95 masks to meet national needs and that there was no need to stockpile.

Large retail and pharmacy chains will have the masks available for purchase by Thursday evening, said the ministry.

The government currently has 9 million N95 masks in stock, and there are plans to purchase more.

– Channel NewsAsia, 21 June 2013, Sufficient N95 masks, no need to stockpile. Link.

At first it seemed like a lot for a city of five million. Then someone pointed out that a mask can typically be used for just 45 minutes.

The government also didn’t seem to say clearly how they would be distributed, though the news report above and a statement on the Health Ministry website suggests that they will be sold for profit:

Singapore has sufficient supplies of N95 masks nationally to meet anticipated demand. People should only buy N95 masks when required. There is no need to stockpile.

MOH has worked with manufacturers and suppliers to bring in and supply more N95 masks to our local retailers and pharmacies such as Guardian, Unity, Giant and Cold Storage. This would ensure that masks are available to the public.

As of the afternoon of 20 June 2013, there have been 7,000 and 21,000 N95 masks that have been distributed to Unity and Guardian [pharmacies] respectively.

– FAQ, Ministry of Health. Link.

On Facebook, people are up in arms after hearing that the state stockpile has been given out to commercial pharmacies, helping them make huge profits at jacked-up prices. Why didn’t the government also set prices? Did no one among the bright sparks in our civil service expect profiteering to happen?

Meanwhile people are going around wearing surgical masks and paying quadrupled prices for them too. But, as I understand it, surgical masks won’t make much difference because they do not fully seal the nose and mouth.

This massive confusion stemming from poor planning and communication only shows how ill-prepared the authorities are. Yet, haze is not something new. It has been occurring annually since the at least the mid 1990s. And each year, we don’t seem to have planned for it, and through these twenty years, never bothered to think about solutions we can implement ourselves to protect our own people.

- http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/haze-comes-government-in-tizzy/



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[steffychun]

Re: Haze: why no solutions we can implement ourselves all these years?

Because no PAP minister has the balls or fallopian tubes

 

[eErotica69]

Re: PAP and NTUC must get 5000 workers to protest in front of Indo Embassy and Burn T

SDP and Dr Chee not protesting too?

 

[Trick]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

Fuck his mother cheebye lah.. If Sinkies stop goin to work then there will be less money for the PAP..

At the end of the day, its the usual PAP mantra.. You die your business, don't complain and just work till you die..

Swee swee comment

 

[blackmondy]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

Please paste 懒叫狼供懒叫尾 in Google translate to hear the audio.

 

[steffychun]

Re: PAP and NTUC must get 5000 workers to protest in front of Indo Embassy and Burn T

SDP and Dr Chee not protesting too?

SDP only protest for democracy. Is haze anti-democracy?

 

[sleaguepunter]

Re: Bargain Hen tells stoopid sinkies to stop scaring themselves over 3-hour PSI aver

Refer to 24-hour PSI, not 3-hour: Ng Eng Hen

The guidelines state [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]if the 24-hour PSI goes above 300, healthy people should also stay indoors to reduce exposure. Those who need to work outdoors should limit their exposure to pollutants by using an N95 mask.


He said: "It is not sensible to have these thresholds now because for some, the home environment is no different from the school or work. So if you stop work or close schools, they go back to the home environment, the exposure is the same. It is not sustainable because it means a mass closure of outdoor businesses - airports, ports and other sectors."

first govt tell ppl to go indoor when PSI reach 300 but refused to stop work because go home exposure will be the same.

if exposure is the same, then stay indoor for fark huh?

since stay indoor the exposure the same, then can all ministers and families turn off their home aircon system and open all the windows.

 

[eatshitndie]

Re: Haze: why no solutions we can implement ourselves all these years?

as though a massive stockpile of useless n95 masks is the panacea or magic pill that will solve all ills as a result of the haze.

be prepared for an onslaught of useless debate in sbf or any sinkie forums on this smoke and mirrors n95 mask. 3 words. for high psi on a prolonged basis, the thinly veiled n95 "mask is useless". even staying indoors is not a solution. the f*cking solution is in the root cause. don't be smoked and mirrored into a superficial skin-deep debate about masks for the short term when long term root causes have been literally brewing for years and decades.