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This Shows That Present PAP Has Failed Singaporeans

bigboss

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You are very discerning. I suspect WP took over a sabotaged TC from the pap

It is a strong statement to make when there is no proof it is so. One may draw the conclusion but beyond that, it is only a presumption which is not an admissible fact.
 

TracyTan866

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It is a strong statement to make when there is no proof it is so. One may draw the conclusion but beyond that, it is only a presumption which is not an admissible fact.

What is a fact is that the operating system was sold to a pap company. What does that fact tell you.

Let WP tell us more during the GE rallies.
 

bigboss

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The pap will be kicked out. It's a matter of when. That's at the discretion of Singaporeans. PAP got to get that point drummed into their thick skulls

To kick pappies out? Not likely and may not happen in our life time. One pappy predicted it would take another three to four GE for it to happen. With the large number of foreigners turning into sinaporans, who can be expected to support pappies out of gratitude to stay in a good country away from their miserable homeland, the pappies will continue to have a strong pool of supporters.

If the pappies failed to win in GRC, more oppo parties would just get into Parliament but not able to topple the pappies. Next, the pappies would likely create more SMC in GE to prevent oppo parties to enter Parliament en masse through GRC.

Since the tide against the pappies from the oppo cannot be stopped, pappies might as well let in the water in a trickle than a big gush in every 5 years and by then, most of us will lose the zeal to talk politics.
 

bigboss

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What is a fact is that the operating system was sold to a pap company. What does that fact tell you.

Let WP tell us more during the GE rallies.

LTK will not say anything even he sees a cow in front of him with 5 legs unless he can prove what he sees, unlike JBJ who got sued for saying things that he should not have said during his Cheng San rallies.
 

TracyTan866

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To kick pappies out? Not likely and may not happen in our life time. One pappy predicted it would take another three to four GE for it to happen. With the large number of foreigners turning into sinaporans, who can be expected to support pappies out of gratitude to stay in a good country away from their miserable homeland, the pappies will continue to have a strong pool of supporters.

If the pappies failed to win in GRC, more oppo parties would just get into Parliament but not able to topple the pappies. Next, the pappies would likely create more SMC in GE to prevent oppo parties to enter Parliament en masse through GRC.

Since the tide against the pappies from the oppo cannot be stopped, pappies might as well let in the water in a trickle than a big gush in every 5 years and by then, most of us will lose the zeal to talk politics.

Valid point. But the influx of foreigners can only delay PAP's demise. The influx cant stop the demise.

I know many PRCs turned new citizens. They themselves are against the liberal influx of PRCs into Singapore. In fact some of them have the same sentiments as true blue Singaporeans and many of these new citizens are already complaining abt the pap.

I may sound too optimistic to many here. But I know the feelings of some new citizens. So I have hope
 
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TracyTan866

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LTK will not say anything even he sees a cow in front of him with 5 legs unless he can prove what he sees, unlike JBJ who got sued for saying things that he should not have said during his Cheng San rallies.

LTK is a conservative Chinese-educated Singaporean. He is unlike the loud mouth liberal Canbridge-educated Singaporean like LKY. So when LTK speaks, we believe
 
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bigboss

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Yes, so it's our job to speak the truth abt what the pap has done and what's happening to Singapore.

Every Singapore we enlighten is one nail on pap's coffin

You have forgotten there are now 2 types of sinaporans, the local born/bred ones and those foreign imported ones. Which one likely to nail the pappies' coffin? The local sinaporans may support the oppo parties but are they willing to nail the pappies?

As for the imported foreign sinaporans, they are likely to nail you instead for trying to enlighten them.
 

TracyTan866

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You have forgotten there are now 2 types of sinaporans, the local born/bred ones and those foreign imported ones. Which one likely to nail the pappies' coffin? The local sinaporans may support the oppo parties but are they willing to nail the pappies?

As for the imported foreign sinaporans, they are likely to nail you instead for trying to enlighten them.

Many native and new Singaporeans will eventually want to nail the pap when they know the truth
 
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bigboss

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Many native and new Singaporeans will eventually want to nail the pap when they know the truth

What is truth? What is falsehood?

Sinaporans are practical people, they only believe what they see. When they see the country is better governed than many other countries, for example, Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, etc, they think the pappies have done a good job, never mind the silly restrictions.

Several pappies' ministers are not that brilliant chaps and often saying things out of their arse holes with their half past six policies. Unless there is a scandal to taint the pappies super black, then the sinaporans will know what is truth and what is falsehood from the time of LKY to present era.
 

bigboss

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LTK is a conservative Chinese-educated Singaporean. He is unlike the loud mouth liberal Canbridge-educated Singaporean like LKY. So when LTK speaks, we believe

LTK is a smart guy and he knows he must not fall into the pappies' trap. When LKY criticised him, he did not hit back at LKY to get sued. He merely said LKY grumbled like an old lady. With WP under his leadership, there is a chance for WP to go far in the political landscape in the island.
 

TracyTan866

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What is truth? What is falsehood?

Sinaporans are practical people, they only believe what they see. When they see the country is better governed than many other countries, for example, Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, etc, they think the pappies have done a good job, never mind the silly restrictions.

Several pappies' ministers are not that brilliant chaps and often saying things out of their arse holes with their half past six policies. Unless there is a scandal to taint the pappies super black, then the sinaporans will know what is truth and what is falsehood from the time of LKY to present era.

Some truths are:

1. PAP compels SG guys to do NS. Foreigners and PRs are exempted. But they enjoy similar job opportunities
2. PAP gives free scholarships to foreign students but not Singaporeans.
3. Singaporeans pay many taxes and levies
4. PAP refuses to return CPF monies to Singaporeans
5. Cost of living in SG is very high
6. Many aged Singaporeans are eke-ing out a living during their twilight years
7. SG media cant be trusted to report the whole truth
etc..
 
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TracyTan866

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LTK is a smart guy and he knows he must not fall into the pappies' trap. When LKY criticised him, he did not hit back at LKY to get sued. He merely said LKY grumbled like an old lady. With WP under his leadership, there is a chance for WP to go far in the political landscape in the island.

LTK is a smart guy and shrewd politician. He knows that a political party must impose strict party discipline. I applaud him for allowing the pap to continue making mistakes and alienating themselves from the people
 
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bigboss

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Valid point. But the influx of foreigners can only delay PAP's demise. The influx cant stop the demise.

I know many PRCs turned new citizens. They themselves are against the liberal influx of PRCs into Singapore. In fact some of them have the same sentiments as true blue Singaporeans and many of these new citizens are already complaining abt the pap.

I may sound too optimistic to many here. But I know the feelings of some new citizens. So I have hope

Many of those foreign imported sinaporans came into the island with their own cultures, style of life and ideas of liberalism, human rights, freedom of speech or even sexuality. They want sinapor to be like their homeland where everything can do. The pink dot rally is an example.

When these foreign imported sinaporans cannot get what they want, they hit back at the pappies, biting the hands that gave them the good life. Local born/bred sinaporans from the older generation are mostly conservative lot. Anything to upset the peace and orderliness of the island is bad.

The pappies will have to think twice whether to stop granting shitizens to foreigners who walked into the island or to those born only in the country.
 

Kuailan

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Up to today, Singapore has won 83 Gold Medals at the 2016 SEA Games. This was achieved by mainly true blue Singaporeans, not foreigners. It shows that Singapore, despite what PAP claims, has talents.

PAP has failed Singaporeans by not providing the resources needed to groom and nurture Singapore talents. Despite this big PAP failure, SG athletes have risen to the occasion to win 83 Golds.

The pap has taken away many soccer fields. Each badminton court costs $8 per hour at the Community Centre. Look at Tao Nan School. The school field has been taken away. How are the students going to be sports fit and aware? Many schools are facing this predicament

And the pap has the audacity to blame the standard of SG Sports on SG talents.

The same with many other areas. Instead of recognising that PAP has a major part to play in the grooming of Singaporeans, the PAP blames Singaporeans for being poor, being sick, bad in sports, etc.

To avoid having to solve a problem, pap blames Singaporeans for the problem.

1. Poor sports standard...pap blames Singaporeans for lack of talent instead of pap taking the rap for not providing enough facilities
2. Bus crowdedness....blames Singaporeans for not moving to the back of the bus
3. Foreigners bad behaviour...blames Singaporeans for being xenophobic
4. Lack of hospital beds...blames Singaporeans for getting sick because we do not adopt healthy lifestyle
5. Poor Singaporeans...blames Singaporeans for not savvy with personal financial management
6. Not enough CPF to retire...blames Singaporeans for not working longer and leading luxurious lifestyle
7. etc..

PAP must not try to push the blame of Singapore's problems to Singaporeans. PAP must be truthful and go to the root cause of each problem. We can see the true cause of Singaporean problems.

The present pap has failed Singaporeans miserably

ust to add on:

8. When no money to pay retirees at age 55 years old, they say Old man can't control their finances
therefore they prolong the age from 55 years to 62 years old, reason behind all this fiasco, CPF
has got no money left inside, some one has been digging the billion to invest in something like BUY HIGH Sell Low!! therefore making great lost, but not their money it's retirees' money!! So it's an Honest Mistake! Lets move on!!

9. Some empty Field while Stinkaporean has no where to go being Land scares! they play remote control plane and helicopter, in NO TIME the bloody Gahmen Fence Up the whole place!! Papaya are just being too narrow minded, Selfish, Very Petty you don't pay you cant used mentality!!

10. Squash Court have been converted into Karaoke studio for peasant to sing out of tune song, and the bloody expect Stinkaporean to Win Squash in SEA games!!
PAP must not try to push the blame of Singapore's problems to Singaporeans. PAP must be truthful and go to the root cause of each problem. We can see the true cause of Singaporean problems.

11. Car Park drive way the Bloody Narrow minded HDB put barrier ERP payment for car park drive way while parent has to drive and fetch their children, Not into car but along the drive way example Punggol, Mee Toh School area!! Fcuking HDB money face like Hell!!

Punggol Play ground in the evening is being Filled with Foreign Trash ~ Children, Ah Neh, PRC and Pinoy.
The Punggol Basket ball court Blk 115 now being control by Pinoy leaving the local no place to play Basket ball they don't integrate with locals!!

Stinkapoor has got too much Foreign Trash, only way is to remove Papaya Trash!
 

TracyTan866

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Many of those foreign imported sinaporans came into the island with their own cultures, style of life and ideas of liberalism, human rights, freedom of speech or even sexuality. They want sinapor to be like their homeland where everything can do. The pink dot rally is an example.

When these foreign imported sinaporans cannot get what they want, they hit back at the pappies, biting the hands that gave them the good life. Local born/bred sinaporans from the older generation are mostly conservative lot. Anything to upset the peace and orderliness of the island is bad.

The pappies will have to think twice whether to stop granting shitizens to foreigners who walked into the island or to those born only in the country.

I agree with you.

The pap thinks that liberally granting citizenships and favouring foreigners will prevent their demise. I see it differently. Initially the new citizens may be thankful. But after a while their thankfulness can wear off and they become disillusioned with the pap and will turn against the pap. As I have shared in another post, I know of some new citizens who are openly criticising the pap.

So granting citizenships to PRCs and 3rd world foreigners can be a double edged sword.

Silly pap shd have just taken care of Singaporeans and not try to screw native Singaporeans and favour foreigners.
 

TracyTan866

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ust to add on:

8. When no money to pay retirees at age 55 years old, they say Old man can't control their finances
therefore they prolong the age from 55 years to 62 years old, reason behind all this fiasco, CPF
has got no money left inside, some one has been digging the billion to invest in something like BUY HIGH Sell Low!! therefore making great lost, but not their money it's retirees' money!! So it's an Honest Mistake! Lets move on!!

9. Some empty Field while Stinkaporean has no where to go being Land scares! they play remote control plane and helicopter, in NO TIME the bloody Gahmen Fence Up the whole place!! Papaya are just being too narrow minded, Selfish, Very Petty you don't pay you cant used mentality!!

10. Squash Court have been converted into Karaoke studio for peasant to sing out of tune song, and the bloody expect Stinkaporean to Win Squash in SEA games!!
PAP must not try to push the blame of Singapore's problems to Singaporeans. PAP must be truthful and go to the root cause of each problem. We can see the true cause of Singaporean problems.

11. Car Park drive way the Bloody Narrow minded HDB put barrier ERP payment for car park drive way while parent has to drive and fetch their children, Not into car but along the drive way example Punggol, Mee Toh School area!! Fcuking HDB money face like Hell!!

Punggol Play ground in the evening is being Filled with Foreign Trash ~ Children, Ah Neh, PRC and Pinoy.
The Punggol Basket ball court Blk 115 now being control by Pinoy leaving the local no place to play Basket ball they don't integrate with locals!!

Stinkapoor has got too much Foreign Trash, only way is to remove Papaya Trash!

Thank you for adding on some truths
 

bigboss

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....Silly pap shd have just taken care of Singaporeans and not try to screw native Singaporeans and favour foreigners.

It is well known the pappies allow foreigners to remain in the island as SPRs for donkey years, enjoying the good life and amenities, getting concessions and privileges like locals. No other country in the world would treat foreigners like citizens. In this respect, the pappies are truly dumb.
 

TracyTan866

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It is well known the pappies allow foreigners to remain in the island as SPRs for donkey years, enjoying the good life and amenities, getting concessions and privileges like locals. No other country in the world would treat foreigners like citizens. In this respect, the pappies are truly dumb.

Yes...PRs and also the way citizenship was granted freely.

It's totally irresponsible for the pap to grant citizenship to unqualified, unskilled foreigners with bad behaviours and bad social norms.
 

TracyTan866

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It is well known the pappies allow foreigners to remain in the island as SPRs for donkey years, enjoying the good life and amenities, getting concessions and privileges like locals. No other country in the world would treat foreigners like citizens. In this respect, the pappies are truly dumb.

Yes...PRs and also the way citizenship was granted freely.

It's totally irresponsible for the pap to grant citizenship to unqualified, unskilled foreigners with bad behaviours and bad social norms.
 
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