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Think China should just split from Xinjiang....
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give them an inch, and they want a yard.
China should just deport them all back to Allah country where it all start Mecca.
It's all about natural resources - oil, coal, natural gas, etc - and the allocation of profits from the mining of those resources, central versus provincial. Malaysia will never let Sabah or Sarawak go. Sama sama China will never let Xinjiang go. Not because they like to oppress the Uighurs, but because of the natural resources.
Below, is article from SCMP:
A top mainland political researcher has called on Beijing to leave more money in the resources-rich western provinces to prevent what critics call the predatory exploitation of the area.
The call by Cai Jiming, a professor at Tsinghua University, put the west's slow economic growth, compared with that of the coastal areas, in a new context. Mainstream views have long argued that poor infrastructure and outdated economic development models were the main reasons for the situation.
Professor Cai told a forum yesterday that Beijing had left too small a share of the profits from natural resources in the west, which had contributed greatly to the huge disparity in development between the west and the east.
'In many western provinces, especially some ethnic minority-concentrated areas, the compensation to local governments has been too low, which in fact has made it a predatory exploitation of the natural resources those areas own,' Professor Cai said.
Even without directly naming it, many of Professor Cai's remarks appeared, at least partly, to refer to the exploitation in Xinjiang, which leads the west in mining and has a high percentage of ethnic minorities.
Xinjiang has as much as 20 per cent of the country's oil reserves and in the future is expected to account for one-fifth of the mainland's annual coal production.
On top of oil and coal abundance, the Tarim Basin at the centre of Xinjiang is believed to hold trillions of cubic metres of natural gas. A 4,000-kilometre pipeline has been built to take the gas as far as Shanghai.
Professor Cai said Beijing paid only 1 per cent of the fees from oil, coal and natural gas sales, whereas developed countries usually offered 10 to 16 per cent of such fees to regions from which the resources came.
'All important natural resources in the west have been transferred to the east ... but the ones who benefited most from such businesses have been developers and end users, not the ones who actually 'own' those resources,' he said.
Professor Cai's remarks came as Xinjiang last week saw one of its worst ethnic clashes in decades, in which at least 184 people were killed and more than 1,000 injured.
Many analysts had argued the growing disparity between Xinjiang and other provinces, as well as the expanding disparity between Han Chinese and Uygurs in the autonomous region, had in part helped brew the discontent among Uygurs.
Professor Cai said increasing the share of compensation could be one of the best ways to address the economic disparity.
He suggested increasing the compensation for general resources from 1.18 per cent to 3 per cent and called on the central government to leave as much as 80 per cent with local governments.
Beijing should urge resource development companies to set up local headquarters as they paid taxes based on where they were based.
Local economies have so far failed to benefit much from the tax revenues.
http://www.scmp.com/article/686626/stop-resources-exploitation-says-researcher
Below, is article from SCMP:
A top mainland political researcher has called on Beijing to leave more money in the resources-rich western provinces to prevent what critics call the predatory exploitation of the area.
The call by Cai Jiming, a professor at Tsinghua University, put the west's slow economic growth, compared with that of the coastal areas, in a new context. Mainstream views have long argued that poor infrastructure and outdated economic development models were the main reasons for the situation.
Professor Cai told a forum yesterday that Beijing had left too small a share of the profits from natural resources in the west, which had contributed greatly to the huge disparity in development between the west and the east.
'In many western provinces, especially some ethnic minority-concentrated areas, the compensation to local governments has been too low, which in fact has made it a predatory exploitation of the natural resources those areas own,' Professor Cai said.
Even without directly naming it, many of Professor Cai's remarks appeared, at least partly, to refer to the exploitation in Xinjiang, which leads the west in mining and has a high percentage of ethnic minorities.
Xinjiang has as much as 20 per cent of the country's oil reserves and in the future is expected to account for one-fifth of the mainland's annual coal production.
On top of oil and coal abundance, the Tarim Basin at the centre of Xinjiang is believed to hold trillions of cubic metres of natural gas. A 4,000-kilometre pipeline has been built to take the gas as far as Shanghai.
Professor Cai said Beijing paid only 1 per cent of the fees from oil, coal and natural gas sales, whereas developed countries usually offered 10 to 16 per cent of such fees to regions from which the resources came.
'All important natural resources in the west have been transferred to the east ... but the ones who benefited most from such businesses have been developers and end users, not the ones who actually 'own' those resources,' he said.
Professor Cai's remarks came as Xinjiang last week saw one of its worst ethnic clashes in decades, in which at least 184 people were killed and more than 1,000 injured.
Many analysts had argued the growing disparity between Xinjiang and other provinces, as well as the expanding disparity between Han Chinese and Uygurs in the autonomous region, had in part helped brew the discontent among Uygurs.
Professor Cai said increasing the share of compensation could be one of the best ways to address the economic disparity.
He suggested increasing the compensation for general resources from 1.18 per cent to 3 per cent and called on the central government to leave as much as 80 per cent with local governments.
Beijing should urge resource development companies to set up local headquarters as they paid taxes based on where they were based.
Local economies have so far failed to benefit much from the tax revenues.
http://www.scmp.com/article/686626/stop-resources-exploitation-says-researcher
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That's the problem with these Muslims. Once they get enough to form a major-minority, they will want to split to form their own territory with their own sharia law and court. Even some western Europeans (In London, the Muslims there are lobbying for Sharia law saperately for the Muslims) are beginning to experience this. That's why Myanmar don't want them around to begin with.
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What is the outcome when the DNA from middle east mixed with those from Chinese?
They became Chinese Muslims?
Or Muslim Chinese?
They became Chinese Muslims?
Or Muslim Chinese?
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It's strange but only china has to give back Indonesia no need to give back aceh ?
Politically, let me try to understand CCP's mentality.
They will likely be thinking: "If we cannot prove to the world that we can take care of our internal affairs (Xinjiang and others), we have no business disputing our claims to islands and our altercations in the South China sea."
I think China will not let go of Xinjiang.
They will likely be thinking: "If we cannot prove to the world that we can take care of our internal affairs (Xinjiang and others), we have no business disputing our claims to islands and our altercations in the South China sea."
I think China will not let go of Xinjiang.
When indonesia gives back iran jaya to papua new guinea, russia gives back chencheya, mudland gives back sarawak.
You notice one odd thing it's like everyone ignores it when other countries do it but when china does it everyone even the ones that commit the same thing try and take the moral high ground and try to give china a lecture.
Not going to happen. China lusts after the natural resources in the non-Han regions of the People's Republic of China.
The only way for territorial splits to happen is for the Chinese Communist Party to experience what the Soviet Union went through under Gorbachev.
Put up a new flag, and all those autonomous regions will break away.
you don't have to be han chinese to be a citizen of china and mind you han chinese look so varied. Similarly can anyone tell me what a thai looks like? How come so many chinese and malay looking thai ppl around and nobody says anything?
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xinjiang was and still is part of China, period.
so what it was not han majority, okinawa also not japanse so why are the japanese govt occuping the islands? The Han Chinese had been ruler of Xinjiang, or west regions as it once known, way before christ was born. japanese only occupy okinawa during the era of shogun, 300+ years ago. Why not US return Texas and New Mexico back to Mexico since US colonies occupied the lands by force.
so what it was not han majority, okinawa also not japanse so why are the japanese govt occuping the islands? The Han Chinese had been ruler of Xinjiang, or west regions as it once known, way before christ was born. japanese only occupy okinawa during the era of shogun, 300+ years ago. Why not US return Texas and New Mexico back to Mexico since US colonies occupied the lands by force.
it only 60+ years since CCP flag flew over the lands. unless CCP lose control of the PLA, no chance of breaking up.
xinjiang was and still is part of China, period.
so what it was not han majority, okinawa also not japanse so why are the japanese govt occuping the islands? The Han Chinese had been ruler of Xinjiang, or west regions as it once known, way before christ was born. japanese only occupy okinawa during the era of shogun, 300+ years ago. Why not US return Texas and New Mexico back to Mexico since US colonies occupied the lands by force.
I wasn't aware that china ruled xinjiang for so long. For some odd reason ppl in here totally ignore the double standards when it comes to other countries occupying others lands. Not a peep like when you ask them about okinawa.
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