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Ethnic cleansing and populating xinjiang with hans

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Could China build a second capital in the far-western deserts of Xinjiang?​

  • A government-funded study says establishing a secondary capital would help rebalance the economy and boost links with Asia and Europe
  • The paper also said the move could help address ethnic tensions in the region, which is home to many Uygurs and other minorities

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Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua

Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua
China should set up a second national capital in the far-western deserts of Xinjiang to strengthen its ties with the whole Eurasian land mass, a government-funded study has proposed.
The proposal aims to address geopolitical and environmental risks, rebalance the country’s economic centre of gravity and create new growth opportunities, according to researchers involved in the four-year project.
Xinjiang is located along the western border of China, far from the country’s economic and political centres. It is a vast region with a harsh climate, including extreme temperatures, arid deserts and high-altitude plateaus.
The region is also home to many ethnic minority groups, including Uygurs, Kazakhs and Mongolians, and borders Tibet.


Tensions between these groups and the Han Chinese majority have led to occasional violence and unrest, as well as allegations of widespread human rights abuses, which Beijing has strongly denied.
These challenges could potentially make it difficult to build a new capital in Xinjiang that is attractive to investors and able to support sustained economic growth.

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Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua

Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua
China should set up a second national capital in the far-western deserts of Xinjiang to strengthen its ties with the whole Eurasian land mass, a government-funded study has proposed.
The proposal aims to address geopolitical and environmental risks, rebalance the country’s economic centre of gravity and create new growth opportunities, according to researchers involved in the four-year project.
Xinjiang is located along the western border of China, far from the country’s economic and political centres. It is a vast region with a harsh climate, including extreme temperatures, arid deserts and high-altitude plateaus.
The region is also home to many ethnic minority groups, including Uygurs, Kazakhs and Mongolians, and borders Tibet.


Tensions between these groups and the Han Chinese majority have led to occasional violence and unrest, as well as allegations of widespread human rights abuses, which Beijing has strongly denied.
These challenges could potentially make it difficult to build a new capital in Xinjiang that is attractive to investors and able to support sustained economic growth.

China punishes citizens for sharing information on Xinjiang: top security body
14 Apr 2023

The paper did not give many details about how the functions of a capital would be split with Beijing, but it said the new city near major population centres such as Urumqi or Kashgar could help strengthen ties with ethnic minorities and promote national unity

They also pointed to the threat from natural disasters such as typhoons and rising sea levels, which could have serious implications for China’s economy and social stability.
In a paper published in Chinese-language journal Social Sciences in Xinjiang on April 21, the authors propose the establishment of a functional second capital city around Urumqi or other major cities in Xinjiang, which would serve as a political, economic, and cultural centre.
 

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Could China build a second capital in the far-western deserts of Xinjiang?​

  • A government-funded study says establishing a secondary capital would help rebalance the economy and boost links with Asia and Europe
  • The paper also said the move could help address ethnic tensions in the region, which is home to many Uygurs and other minorities

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Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua

Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua
China should set up a second national capital in the far-western deserts of Xinjiang to strengthen its ties with the whole Eurasian land mass, a government-funded study has proposed.
The proposal aims to address geopolitical and environmental risks, rebalance the country’s economic centre of gravity and create new growth opportunities, according to researchers involved in the four-year project.
Xinjiang is located along the western border of China, far from the country’s economic and political centres. It is a vast region with a harsh climate, including extreme temperatures, arid deserts and high-altitude plateaus.
The region is also home to many ethnic minority groups, including Uygurs, Kazakhs and Mongolians, and borders Tibet.


Tensions between these groups and the Han Chinese majority have led to occasional violence and unrest, as well as allegations of widespread human rights abuses, which Beijing has strongly denied.
These challenges could potentially make it difficult to build a new capital in Xinjiang that is attractive to investors and able to support sustained economic growth.

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Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua

Xinjiang is far from the main economic and commercial centres of China. Photo: Xinhua
China should set up a second national capital in the far-western deserts of Xinjiang to strengthen its ties with the whole Eurasian land mass, a government-funded study has proposed.
The proposal aims to address geopolitical and environmental risks, rebalance the country’s economic centre of gravity and create new growth opportunities, according to researchers involved in the four-year project.
Xinjiang is located along the western border of China, far from the country’s economic and political centres. It is a vast region with a harsh climate, including extreme temperatures, arid deserts and high-altitude plateaus.
The region is also home to many ethnic minority groups, including Uygurs, Kazakhs and Mongolians, and borders Tibet.


Tensions between these groups and the Han Chinese majority have led to occasional violence and unrest, as well as allegations of widespread human rights abuses, which Beijing has strongly denied.
These challenges could potentially make it difficult to build a new capital in Xinjiang that is attractive to investors and able to support sustained economic growth.

China punishes citizens for sharing information on Xinjiang: top security body

14 Apr 2023

The paper did not give many details about how the functions of a capital would be split with Beijing, but it said the new city near major population centres such as Urumqi or Kashgar could help strengthen ties with ethnic minorities and promote national unity

They also pointed to the threat from natural disasters such as typhoons and rising sea levels, which could have serious implications for China’s economy and social stability.
In a paper published in Chinese-language journal Social Sciences in Xinjiang on April 21, the authors propose the establishment of a functional second capital city around Urumqi or other major cities in Xinjiang, which would serve as a political, economic, and cultural centre.

Didn't the moslem uyghurs try to carry out ethnic cleansing of the chinks in 2009?
 

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Xinjiang was once a flourishing peaceful Buddhist state until the Islamic cult invaded and wipe out all the peaceful harmless Buddhists and turned it into this nightmare. They deserve another cult called communism.
 

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Unsurprisingly that's of course their point of view. But whose homeland and who is the foreigner?
Han Chinese are not the original inhabitants of Xinjiang. The land was first conquered and then occupied by China during the reign of Qing Emperor Kangxi. The natives are the Uyghurs and Han Chinese are settlers.
 

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Han Chinese are not the original inhabitants of Xinjiang. The land was first conquered and then occupied by China during the reign of Qing Emperor Kangxi. The natives are the Uyghurs and Han Chinese are settlers.
But it's a blessing the Hans are ruling Xinjiang otherwise it'll end up as a poor laidback backward country similar to Tajikistan or Turkmenistan....
Tell me which Islamic country is rich n economically powerful barring those with oil? Almost all are poor n its people are dying to leave their country searching for a better life!
 
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Xinjiang was once a flourishing peaceful Buddhist state until the Islamic cult invaded and wipe out all the peaceful harmless Buddhists and turned it into this nightmare. They deserve another cult called communism.
Same as Turkey and much of the middle east. The Muslims occupied the land that once belong to other people. Only the Israelis managed to get back a portion of their land.
 

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Same as Turkey and much of the middle east. The Muslims occupied the land that once belong to other people. Only the Israelis managed to get back a portion of their land.
Muslims shared their land with original inhabitants. Nobody forced or coerced to convert. There is still a sizable christian minorities and before israel was formed, baghdad, tehran and Moroccan cities were full of jews.
 

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Same as Turkey and much of the middle east. The Muslims occupied the land that once belong to other people. Only the Israelis managed to get back a portion of their land.
Turks occupied arab lands until after WWI. They came with the mongols and annihilate entire muslim arab world ending with the destruction of baghdad. Arabs never recovered from the invasion.they just got free of 800 years of Turkish mongol rule 100 years ago.
 

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Turks occupied arab lands until after WWI. They came with the mongols and annihilate entire muslim arab world ending with the destruction of baghdad. Arabs never recovered from the invasion.they just got free of 800 years of Turkish mongol rule 100 years ago.
Turks are Muslims duh. But it is not surprising that Muslims are killing other Muslims because this is still happening today.
 

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Muslims shared their land with original inhabitants. Nobody forced or coerced to convert. There is still a sizable christian minorities and before israel was formed, baghdad, tehran and Moroccan cities were full of jews.
You should read up the quran and hadiths to learn more about history.
 

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Turks are Muslims duh. But it is not surprising that Muslims are killing other Muslims because this is still happening today.
They are not arabs. Even mongols in kazakhstan, tartars in russia and Baltic are muslims. They came to destroy arab/persian land and converted later.
 

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Han Chinese are not the original inhabitants of Xinjiang. The land was first conquered and then occupied by China during the reign of Qing Emperor Kangxi.

islam is not the original culture or religion of Xinjiang either. The so-called 'concern' over the Uyghurs is due solely to them currently being moslems.

Xinjiang was first conquered by China during the Han Dynasty by General Ban Chao around the period 70 - 100 AD. Xinjiang was then ruled as a protectorate of the Han Dynasty.

The Tarim Basin was once again reconquered by China during the Tang Dynasty around the mid 600 AD period, with numerous battles against the various turkic groups there. The Tang Dynasty lost control of the Tarim Basin in the 740 AD period after the Battle of Talas, followed by the An Lushan Rebellion in 755 AD.

The Qing conquest of Tarim Basin predates even most muud sultanates in malaya. And the muuds are already using those sultanates as 'historical evidence' that they are aborigines in malaya. So, by islamic standards, the Qing conquest of Xinjiang happened long ago, enough to make the Xinjiang an aboriginal part of China.
 

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Hadith stories cannot be corroborated by historians and quran stories are based on mystical individuals mostly jews whose lifestyle we are told to emulate.
Are you saying there is no Islam because without quran and hadiths, there is no Islam.
 

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They are not arabs. Even mongols in kazakhstan, tartars in russia and Baltic are muslims. They came to destroy arab/persian land and converted later.
Ok so end all this Islamic occupation and return Turkey to its rightful owner for a start.
 
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