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The Official 9/11 Fairytale....................

chupacabra

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and how to explain that they can't find the wreakage of the plane leh.................it's as if the plane vaporized...........




### the part of the Pentagon that was ''hit'' contained all the records/documents/evidence of USD2.6TRILLION that went missing.....................

Its a military installation, they will never reveal what is left of the wreckage. Doing so will give the enemy knowledge of how to improve its artillery. If a a stealth fighter was detected by enemy radar, it would be plain stupid to tell the world which radar and which country detected it. Same theory here. If the wreckage which is mainly aluminum was to be release, than all the enemy scientist got to do is improve the design of the weapon. In this case a plane. When scientist develops new missiles, they would first look at the wreckage after its launch on a target in order to improve on it.

Unfortunately old skyscrapers can be brought down by a commercial jet. Now we know.
 
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GOD IS MY DOG

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since the Pentagon is heavily defended......................no missile to take down the plane meh ?



if only the soviets knew all those years ago................



of course, the Cold War was just a gigantic hoax.................the Soviets were never enemies in the 1st place
 

chupacabra

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and how to explain that they can't find the wreakage of the plane leh.................it's as if the plane vaporized...........




### the part of the Pentagon that was ''hit'' contained all the records/documents/evidence of USD2.6TRILLION that went missing.....................

Whether or not the office that was damaged by the attack contained documents of a conspiracy, it is anyones guess. You can destroy evidence but you

cant kill everyone that is involve or supposedly involve in the biggest conspiracy theory ever. How did wikileaks get their info? Through insiders and

whistle blowers.

Even CIA operatives overseas are mentioned in certain documents. Who leaked out all the singapore documents? Somebody on the inside must have.

After 10 years nobody got hard evidence that 911 was a inside job. Even wikileaks but wikileaks got every other documents.
 

chupacabra

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since the Pentagon is heavily defended......................no missile to take down the plane meh ?



if only the soviets knew all those years ago................



of course, the Cold War was just a gigantic hoax.................the Soviets were never enemies in the 1st place

That was the first ever attacked using a commercial jetliner. They did not see it coming. Now I,m pretty sure they would shoot down any plane that ignores warnings. I certainly don't want to be in a plane heading to the states with its communication instruments out of order.
 

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The world are suckers to buy military tech from the US. The US only sells old tech. The apache copters and f16s are old tech. When the US sells its military hardware, they already got a newer version of it.
 

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That was the first ever attacked using a commercial jetliner. They did not see it coming. Now I,m pretty sure they would shoot down any plane that ignores warnings. I certainly don't want to be in a plane heading to the states with its communication instruments out of order.

If you've lived in the US for some years, you'd have realized that US lands and skies are really the worst defended in the world in terms of military readiness. The continental lands and skies are too big to be everyready everywhere and there's the assumption that no country except Canada and Mexico can reach the US without having to cross the oceans. Therefore, the defense has always been the massive Pacific and Atlantic fleets guarding the oceans. 9/11 took them by surprise as the attack on such a massive scale was launched from within.

I do believe that CIA had intelligence that somekind of terrorist attack would be launched. They just didn't expect that it was going to be by air. It has been done before with a van fully loaded with explosives driven into World Trade Center Building 3 in 1993.
 
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None of the conspiracy theories hold water. All conveniently blindsided the leading actors in the scene, the 19 terrorists, planejackers and suicide bombers who were not Jews to say the least. The most fervent anti-Jews in the world indeed, Arab Muslims. Some even questioned if they have "explosion-proof" passports so that their identities were established. Hello! They were on domestic flights. No passport required. But hello again! They were boarding planes in airports, not buses at bus stops. Passenger ticketing lists are retained by both airports and airlines. There was the last minute communications with control towers by the pilots in distress. There were the black boxes.




by the way..................none of the 4 pilots issued the code that they were hijacked...................


also the black box of at least 2 of the planes confirmed..................the cockpit doors were not even opened................

so how the hijackers get into cockpit leh ?
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Whether or not the office that was damaged by the attack contained documents of a conspiracy, it is anyones guess. You can destroy evidence but you

cant kill everyone that is involve or supposedly involve in the biggest conspiracy theory ever. How did wikileaks get their info? Through insiders and

whistle blowers.

Even CIA operatives overseas are mentioned in certain documents. Who leaked out all the singapore documents? Somebody on the inside must have.

After 10 years nobody got hard evidence that 911 was a inside job. Even wikileaks but wikileaks got every other documents.





brudder....................you fell for the wikileaks ruse liao..........................


the lawyers defending the founder of wikileaks also work for the Rothschilds..................


the founder say he's anti-establishment...................but he supports the ridiculous official 9/11 story !
 

sibeitoolangarment

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The real reason behind the 911 terror was a battle for control of the global collateral accounts ~by Benjamin Fulford


Although a decade of research has proven a high level cabal at the top of the Western power structure was behind the 911 terror attacks, few realize the attack was an esoteric battle in a war for control of the global financial system. Fewer still realize the 311 nuclear tsunami attack against Japan was also part of this battle. However, a critical mass of military, law-enforcement, banking and other officials has identified and is about to arrest the culprits behind these and other attacks. The search for the ultimate culprits led to something known as the global collateral accounts and a high level group of conspirators that illegally took them over. These accounts are backed by the pooled assets of many of the world’s governments and were meant to be used to finance peaceful development. Instead, they were mostly misspent on war by a group of misguided oligarchs concentrated in the financial, military, oil and (to a lesser extent) pharmaceutical industries.
According to a US intelligence group that has been on this case for some time, the top cabalists include George Bushes Jr.&Sr, Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, Queen Elizabeth, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Senator J. Rockefeller, Paul Wolfowitz, Frank Carlucci, Donald Rumsfeld, Tony Blair and the Pope. Of course there were many thousands of working below them or else above them in the shadows who were in on the scheme. The intelligence and police agencies of the world have now obtained the codes for the global collateral accounts and can trace in detail who has been using these funds, and for what purpose, ever since they were hijacked in the 1950’s.
The main plot line, for those of readers who still do not have the big picture, goes back to the Bretton Woods agreement of 1944. At that time England, France and the US were supposed to run the global financial system for a 50-year period ending in 1994. However, in the 1950’s it became clear these countries were not going to keep their promises of Marshal Plans to develop Asia and Africa. Instead they wanted to finance a dialectical fake “cold war” between the Soviets and the “Western World,” in order to benefit the military, oil and related industries.
When U.S. President John F. Kennedy agreed with the 77-nation non-aligned group to create US treasury dollars to finance the development of the third world and a trip to the moon, he was killed. Over the coming decades other non-aligned leaders were also killed, hounded out of power or intimidated into silence.
The cold war was wound down and the Soviet Union was dismantled in the run up to the end of the US/French/British Bretton Woods financial mandates. However, the esoteric group at the top of the financial system could not agree on what was to come next.
The Chinese and their non-aligned allies around the world rightly argued that their turn had come. Furthermore, they were armed with multi-trillion dollar certificates of various sorts given to them by the Western Powers.
In one example, in 1938 7 US warships took vast amounts of Chinese gold to the US in order to keep it out of Japanese hands. In exchange the Chinese were given Treasury bonds that expired in 60-years or 1998. When that time came, the Chinese owners asked for their gold back but the owners of the Federal Reserve Board refused. The Feds were sued at the International Court of Justice in the Hague and lost.
The owners of the Fed were supposed to hand back the first shipment of gold on September 12th, 2001. As those of us who are not brainwashed understand, the Feds gave the world the “finger,” on September 11, 2001 and instead embarked on a vast new military build-up intended to replace the cold war.
The problem with this fake war on terror is that it required the rest of the world to continue financing the US military industrial complex. That was predicated on the complex being able to maintain control over oil, the lifeblood of the 20th century economy.
When Putin kicked the cabalists out of Russia, suddenly the cabal’s control over oil, and thus their stranglehold over much of the world’s economy, began to collapse.
The battle has now raged on for a decade. The 911 attack on the US was followed up by the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan aimed at stealing oil and obtaining illegal drug money.
However, the entire plan began to crumble after 2006 when the Chinese began to stop buying US Treasury certificates. The cabal tried to counter this by jacking up food and oil prices. When that failed and a counterattack known as the “Lehman Shock” took place, they started sucking up to China and trying to bribe top Chinese officials with promises of a global Chinese dictatorship (in partnership with the cabal). This was seen in the news as US President Obama going to China in 2009 and offering a “G2.”
More action took place in June of 2009 when two Japanese carrying $134.5 billion of various bonds were seized in Italy and had their bonds taken. US military and law enforcement types followed the trail to an organization known as the OITC and a Cambodian royal family member by the name of R.C. Dam who theoretical was the legal signator to the global collateral accounts. From there the trail led to cabal members located at the very top of the Western power structure.
Fearing arrest or more, a menagerie of top members of the Western Who’s Who popped out of the woodwork trying to cut deals and offering secrets.
Until this mess can be sorted out, a freeze has been put out at the very highest levels of the global financial system. This is what is ultimately behind the recent financial turmoil seen around the world. Because of the incredibly sensitive nature of the situation, a blanket of secrecy has been put in place until this mess can be sorted out.
The best intelligence available says that many cabal members will be put in jail while many others, who are judged to have sincerely worked with the greater good in mind, will be allowed to stay free and stay rich.
There will also be some sort of announcements to the global public at large about what has been going on. Humanity will then enter uncharted waters.
[Note from Ben: A message to subscribers. This week, in honor of the victims worldwide of the 911 terror attacks and false flag wars, this week’s newsletter will also be put on my free blog. Your understanding is appreciated. (note from kp, as of 2300 UTC, it is not there yet)]
 

sibeitoolangarment

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The real reason behind the 911 terror was a battle for control of the global collateral accounts ~by Benjamin Fulford


Although a decade of research has proven a high level cabal at the top of the Western power structure was behind the 911 terror attacks, few realize the attack was an esoteric battle in a war for control of the global financial system. Fewer still realize the 311 nuclear tsunami attack against Japan was also part of this battle. However, a critical mass of military, law-enforcement, banking and other officials has identified and is about to arrest the culprits behind these and other attacks. The search for the ultimate culprits led to something known as the global collateral accounts and a high level group of conspirators that illegally took them over. These accounts are backed by the pooled assets of many of the world’s governments and were meant to be used to finance peaceful development. Instead, they were mostly misspent on war by a group of misguided oligarchs concentrated in the financial, military, oil and (to a lesser extent) pharmaceutical industries.
According to a US intelligence group that has been on this case for some time, the top cabalists include George Bushes Jr.&Sr, Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, Queen Elizabeth, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Senator J. Rockefeller, Paul Wolfowitz, Frank Carlucci, Donald Rumsfeld, Tony Blair and the Pope. Of course there were many thousands of working below them or else above them in the shadows who were in on the scheme. The intelligence and police agencies of the world have now obtained the codes for the global collateral accounts and can trace in detail who has been using these funds, and for what purpose, ever since they were hijacked in the 1950’s.
The main plot line, for those of readers who still do not have the big picture, goes back to the Bretton Woods agreement of 1944. At that time England, France and the US were supposed to run the global financial system for a 50-year period ending in 1994. However, in the 1950’s it became clear these countries were not going to keep their promises of Marshal Plans to develop Asia and Africa. Instead they wanted to finance a dialectical fake “cold war” between the Soviets and the “Western World,” in order to benefit the military, oil and related industries.
When U.S. President John F. Kennedy agreed with the 77-nation non-aligned group to create US treasury dollars to finance the development of the third world and a trip to the moon, he was killed. Over the coming decades other non-aligned leaders were also killed, hounded out of power or intimidated into silence.
The cold war was wound down and the Soviet Union was dismantled in the run up to the end of the US/French/British Bretton Woods financial mandates. However, the esoteric group at the top of the financial system could not agree on what was to come next.
The Chinese and their non-aligned allies around the world rightly argued that their turn had come. Furthermore, they were armed with multi-trillion dollar certificates of various sorts given to them by the Western Powers.
In one example, in 1938 7 US warships took vast amounts of Chinese gold to the US in order to keep it out of Japanese hands. In exchange the Chinese were given Treasury bonds that expired in 60-years or 1998. When that time came, the Chinese owners asked for their gold back but the owners of the Federal Reserve Board refused. The Feds were sued at the International Court of Justice in the Hague and lost.
The owners of the Fed were supposed to hand back the first shipment of gold on September 12th, 2001. As those of us who are not brainwashed understand, the Feds gave the world the “finger,” on September 11, 2001 and instead embarked on a vast new military build-up intended to replace the cold war.
The problem with this fake war on terror is that it required the rest of the world to continue financing the US military industrial complex. That was predicated on the complex being able to maintain control over oil, the lifeblood of the 20th century economy.
When Putin kicked the cabalists out of Russia, suddenly the cabal’s control over oil, and thus their stranglehold over much of the world’s economy, began to collapse.
The battle has now raged on for a decade. The 911 attack on the US was followed up by the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan aimed at stealing oil and obtaining illegal drug money.
However, the entire plan began to crumble after 2006 when the Chinese began to stop buying US Treasury certificates. The cabal tried to counter this by jacking up food and oil prices. When that failed and a counterattack known as the “Lehman Shock” took place, they started sucking up to China and trying to bribe top Chinese officials with promises of a global Chinese dictatorship (in partnership with the cabal). This was seen in the news as US President Obama going to China in 2009 and offering a “G2.”
More action took place in June of 2009 when two Japanese carrying $134.5 billion of various bonds were seized in Italy and had their bonds taken. US military and law enforcement types followed the trail to an organization known as the OITC and a Cambodian royal family member by the name of R.C. Dam who theoretical was the legal signator to the global collateral accounts. From there the trail led to cabal members located at the very top of the Western power structure.
Fearing arrest or more, a menagerie of top members of the Western Who’s Who popped out of the woodwork trying to cut deals and offering secrets.
Until this mess can be sorted out, a freeze has been put out at the very highest levels of the global financial system. This is what is ultimately behind the recent financial turmoil seen around the world. Because of the incredibly sensitive nature of the situation, a blanket of secrecy has been put in place until this mess can be sorted out.
The best intelligence available says that many cabal members will be put in jail while many others, who are judged to have sincerely worked with the greater good in mind, will be allowed to stay free and stay rich.
There will also be some sort of announcements to the global public at large about what has been going on. Humanity will then enter uncharted waters.
[Note from Ben: A message to subscribers. This week, in honor of the victims worldwide of the 911 terror attacks and false flag wars, this week’s newsletter will also be put on my free blog. Your understanding is appreciated. (note from kp, as of 2300 UTC, it is not there yet)]
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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The world are suckers to buy military tech from the US. The US only sells old tech. The apache copters and f16s are old tech. When the US sells its military hardware, they already got a newer version of it.



aiyah.................want F16 and apache...................buy pirated ones from China mah hor lor.............
 

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aiyah.................want F16 and apache...................buy pirated ones from China mah hor lor.............

No many country buy Aircraft from US anymore. Sinkie gov is one of the stupid country.
Now many country start to buy China made Jetfighter because cheaper.
Europe country mostly buy Europe made.
So the buyer is from Latin, Africa, Asia and Middle east for Jetfighter.
 

chupacabra

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Largest exporter of arms is still the states. China still far off. China airlines has the worstsafety records. Good luck to those who purchase fighter jets from them.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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No many country buy Aircraft from US anymore. Sinkie gov is one of the stupid country.
Now many country start to buy China made Jetfighter because cheaper.
Europe country mostly buy Europe made.
So the buyer is from Latin, Africa, Asia and Middle east for Jetfighter.



countries buy weapons from another based more on politics and economics...................


you won't see S'pore buy from Russia...................only US or her allies..............
 

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brudder....................you fell for the wikileaks ruse liao..........................


the lawyers defending the founder of wikileaks also work for the Rothschilds..................




the founder say he's anti-establishment...................but he supports the ridiculous official 9/11 story !
I fell for wikileaks and so did LKY who came out defending himself plus other ministars....You fell for you tube. Where did you get your info?

A lie can be covered but which lie can be covered by thusands of people involve..No solid evidence came up in 10 years to support the theory of an inside job. All the evidence so far are speculations.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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I fell for wikileaks and so did LKY who came out defending himself plus other ministars....You fell for you tube. Where did you get your info?

A lie can be covered but which lie can be covered by thusands of people involve..No solid evidence came up in 10 years to support the theory of an inside job. All the evidence so far are speculations.



what proof you expect ?


George Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld to say ''WE DID IT !'' ??????
 

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Avaition fuel does not burn hot or long enough for molten seel to form.

How did the temp. get so high to melt steel its only Jet fuel Kerosene.

Finding the Passport of Mohd. Atta on the street below after vaporising of a comercial aircraft is bizzare!.
 
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Avaition fuel does not burn hot or long enough for molten seel to form.

How did the temp. get so high to melt steel its only Jet fuel Kerosene.

Finding the Passport of Mohd. Atta on the street below after vaporising of a comercial aircraft is bizzare!.

Did they really find Mohd. Atta passport on the street?
I do not remembering reading the news report.
It is bizzare indeed if it is true.
Not sure if he is really one of the hijackers or just a scapegoat.
 

Cestbon

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Largest exporter of arms is still the states. China still far off. China airlines has the worstsafety records. Good luck to those who purchase fighter jets from them.

Quantity much more important . They can do Kamikaze carry as much bomb they can.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Avaition fuel does not burn hot or long enough for molten seel to form.

How did the temp. get so high to melt steel its only Jet fuel Kerosene.

Finding the Passport of Mohd. Atta on the street below after vaporising of a comercial aircraft is bizzare!.




precisely..................


and many of the hijackers were found ALIVE.................elsewhere after 9/11..................





of course, others will believe the official fairytale..................even if they said Santa Claus did it.................
 
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