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Some asshole at SAF & RSAF should read this article

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you're right on the tpt aircraft based there - how about those in the thai udon afb:confused:

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The big boys are all in the US. The F-15 is at Mountain Home AFB in Idaho and the F-16s are in Luke AFB in Arizona. It will take at least a couple of days before they can be flown back. And in any case, it will be trainee pilots, not yet operational on the aircraft to bring them back. The fight will be over long before then.
 

eatshitndie

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it's a versatile combat aircraft. 2-seater trainer, recon missions, air patrol, interceptor, fighter, bomber for a fraction (1/5th) of the cost of an f-35.
 

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it's a versatile combat aircraft. 2-seater trainer, recon missions, air patrol, interceptor, fighter, bomber for a fraction (1/5th) of the cost of an f-35.

im no aviation expert but those wings are so rectangularish its almost a joke.....they have been using swept back wings in fighter jets for decades.
 

eatshitndie

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im no aviation expert but those wings are so rectangularish its almost a joke.....they have been using swept back wings in fighter jets for decades.

wings are primarily for aerodynamic lift during takeoff and flight, where air pressure below wings is higher than that above over a certain velocity to ensure lift. the more conventional wing design is not meant for air superiority but functionality and economy for air forces on a budget. there are combat aircraft concepts with forward-swept wings and aft-swept wings. each design has its own merits in preventing stalling (loss of lift) at various angles of attack.
 

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isn't that why most of our warplanes are based overseas either for trg purposes or on routine flying missions so that these afb's can be used as launching pads :confused:

No country will allow u to use their airbase as a launching pad for attacks.
 

kiwibird7

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No country will allow u to use their airbase as a launching pad for attacks.

Quite foolish for RSAF to leave all their military assets all over the place in foreign countries, might as well not buy such assets in the first place.

All offensive military assets (RSAF AIRCRAFT) stationed in NEUTRAL COUNTRIES will be INTERNED and basically useless IF Singapore goes to war or is attacked.

The law of Armed Conflict for Neutral Countries
MILITARY EQUIPMENT
Military equipment taken from belligerent internees also has to be kept by the neutral State until the end of hostilities.
http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/law8_final.pdf

The classic example is that of the WWII German Heavy Cruiser Admiral Graf Spee which was INTERNED when she fled into the harbour in URUGUAY.
 
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Quite foolish for RSAF to leave all their military assets all over the place in foreign countries, might as well not buy such assets in the first place.

All offensive military assets (RSAF AIRCRAFT) stationed in NEUTRAL COUNTRIES will be INTERNED and basically useless IF Singapore goes to war or is attacked.

The example of the WWII German Cruiser Admiral Graf Spee was INTERNED when she fled into the harbour in URUGUAY.

U make a good point, but the graf Spee was not interned in Uruguay. It was scuttled off the coast of Uruguay. Its sailors were interned in Uruguay after Langsdorf offloaded them in montevideo.
 

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Quite foolish for RSAF to leave all their military assets all over the place in foreign countries, might as well not buy such assets in the first place.

All offensive military assets (RSAF AIRCRAFT) stationed in NEUTRAL COUNTRIES will be INTERNED and basically useless IF Singapore goes to war or is attacked.

The law of Armed Conflict for Neutral Countries
MILITARY EQUIPMENT
Military equipment taken from belligerent internees also has to be kept by the neutral State until the end of hostilities.
http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/law8_final.pdf

The classic example is that of the WWII German Heavy Cruiser Admiral Graf Spee which was INTERNED when she fled into the harbour in URUGUAY.

The SAF is really in a catch 22 when it comes to its assets stationed overseas. No country will allow u to launch attacks from their airbases, and some may actually intern your aircraft. But most of the good stuff is in the US and its not likely they will intern them. One of the reasons the RSAF invested in tanker aircraft is so that they can bring them back quickly. But again, the crew will be those pilots training to get their operational status, so not yet combat ready. If the RSAf is anticipating an attack or planning one, they will bring the planes back but it will be a big tip off to the neighbours. If the RSAF wait for the war to start and than bring them back, it will take a few days for sure, and by the time they come back, their airbases might be gone or the country already over run. So, its a catch - 22.
 

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U make a good point, but the graf Spee was not interned in Uruguay. It was scuttled off the coast of Uruguay. Its sailors were interned in Uruguay after Langsdorf offloaded them in montevideo.

Under Article 17 the of the Hague Convention, neutrality restrictions limited Admiral Graf Spee to a period of 72 hours for repairs in Montevideo, before she would be interned for the duration of the war.[SUP][32][/SUP][SUP][33][/SUP] On 17 December 1939, Langsdorff ordered the destruction of all important equipment aboard the ship. The ship's remaining ammunition supply was dispersed throughout the ship, in preparation for scuttling. On 18 December, the ship, with only Langsdorff and 40 other men aboard, moved into the outer roadstead to be scuttled.

Applying the Hague Convention, all RSAF personnel of fighter jets stationed on foreign soil would also be interned and those expensive F15 fighter aircraft grounded (INTERNED); basically useless for military offense purposes.
 

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Under Article 17 the of the Hague Convention, neutrality restrictions limited Admiral Graf Spee to a period of 72 hours for repairs in Montevideo, before she would be interned for the duration of the war.[SUP][32][/SUP][SUP][33][/SUP] On 17 December 1939, Langsdorff ordered the destruction of all important equipment aboard the ship. The ship's remaining ammunition supply was dispersed throughout the ship, in preparation for scuttling. On 18 December, the ship, with only Langsdorff and 40 other men aboard, moved into the outer roadstead to be scuttled.

Applying the Hague Convention, all RSAF personnel of fighter jets stationed on foreign soil would also be interned and those expensive F15 fighter aircraft grounded (INTERNED); basically useless for military offense purposes.

that's the theory part. In practice Uruguay was friendly to the British and would have allowed the Brits full excess to the ship, including all its weaponry and technology. Even though it was a neutral party. langsdorf should have requested 2 weeks to repair his ship completely and if denied that, he should have "accidentally" shelled montivedeo.

The US is very friendly to singapore, they will not inter the planes.
 

aerobwala

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How many military radar station in the region?
First strike take out of them and the rest follow by ground battle.
 

kiwibird7

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Those are cheap jets meant for 3rd world Airforce. The F-35 is a stealth fighter, those examples are not. It's like comparing a Ferrari with a Chery QQ.

Those jets are good enough to scare off terrorist and fighting with countries with non-existent like the Philippines but not for everyone.

We all know where SG greatest threat comes from and guess what they are already at that airforce capability. RSAF not just have to match them, due to lesser numbers we have to outshoot them. We obviously have to get better equipment than them. U retards need to apply some brain power before posting nonsense.

No matter how advanced the RSAF aircraft, they still have to TAKE OFF from the ground and it takes time to even reach MACH 1 speed and climb to sufficient altitude to take evasive manoeuvres and counter-measures. With the RSAF airports in the northern sector of little red dot, all those F15 would be easy targets from hostile low altitude SAM to the high altitude AA weaponry of the Northern neighbour.

Another factor is one is assuming that the military runways including the alternative ones (expressways) have NOT YET been CRATERED by hostile arty fire or missile attack prior to that.
 
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