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SMRT Admit They Die With Cock Standing! No Idea Why MRT Breakdown!

Confuseous

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Desmond Quack is still moaning about previous management in public.
He knew what he was in for - to solve problems from the past.
He has run out of excuses for his total incompetence and reverts to blaming the past.
Getting his army buddies, his favourite YES Men is a simple reflection of how useless this man is.
 

JohnTan

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Desmond should be made to apologize, but not to resign or step down. This is not just about a CEO job, but also about where to park our generals after they leave the SAF. We cannot have dozens of unemployed or underemployed generals idling. They would be stirring shit amongst disgruntled retrenched sinkie PMETs or worse, lending their military expertise to militant groups around the world in return for a handsome fee.
 

kukubird59

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hahaha....if smrt claimed that they had identified the root cause(s), then I worry because it will be obvious bullshits......
by acknowledging that they could not find the root cause(s) yet, at least the issue is kept on the table and not swept under the carpet.....

Electrical switchgears may trip because of the following probable causes:
1. faulty switchgears (mechanical defects)
2. faulty protection devices
3. abnormal electrical conditions (ground faults, over/under voltage, overcurrent, short circuits; etc...)

Hence if you have a situation where you have intermittent trippings without any obvious causes and such trippings do not recur.....it is nightmare scenario.........
any engineer with field experience will know that intermittent problems are the most difficult to trouble shoot.....

Now let us look at updates from smrt so far.....they found a few defects in the whole network but they also know that such defects should not bring the whole NS and EW network to a stop...
It appears that they shut down the network as a safety precaution because of intermittent and increasingly frequent trippings (root causes still unknown probably because of lack of real time data from the monitoring system)........
so the basic design should be reviewed because a robust design should not force a complete shut-down of the network in such situations......it should be able to isolate and contain any electrical faults within the sub-circuits......
 

Papsmearer

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hahaha....if smrt claimed that they had identified the root cause(s), then I worry because it will be obvious bullshits......
by acknowledging that they could not find the root cause(s) yet, at least the issue is kept on the table and not swept under the carpet.....

Electrical switchgears may trip because of the following probable causes:
1. faulty switchgears (mechanical defects)
2. faulty protection devices
3. abnormal electrical conditions (ground faults, over/under voltage, overcurrent, short circuits; etc...)

Hence if you have a situation where you have intermittent trippings without any obvious causes and such trippings do not recur.....it is nightmare scenario.........
any engineer with field experience will know that intermittent problems are the most difficult to trouble shoot.....

Now let us look at updates from smrt so far.....they found a few defects in the whole network but they also know that such defects should not bring the whole NS and EW network to a stop...
It appears that they shut down the network as a safety precaution because of intermittent and increasingly frequent trippings (root causes still unknown probably because of lack of real time data from the monitoring system)........
so the basic design should be reviewed because a robust design should not force a complete shut-down of the network in such situations......it should be able to isolate and contain any electrical faults within the sub-circuits......

Bravo Kukushit. I told you all the time when you stop swallowing bangla sperm, your brain will clear up. And you can think semi logically. See, was I right or not? Now better rest for a few days so your peanut brain don't over heat from your posting. Ok?
 

halsey02

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hahaha....if smrt claimed that they had identified the root cause(s), then I worry because it will be obvious bullshits......
by acknowledging that they could not find the root cause(s) yet, at least the issue is kept on the table and not swept under the carpet.....

Electrical switchgears may trip because of the following probable causes:
1. faulty switchgears (mechanical defects)
2. faulty protection devices
3. abnormal electrical conditions (ground faults, over/under voltage, overcurrent, short circuits; etc...)

Hence if you have a situation where you have intermittent trippings without any obvious causes and such trippings do not recur.....it is nightmare scenario.........
any engineer with field experience will know that intermittent problems are the most difficult to trouble shoot.....

Now let us look at updates from smrt so far.....they found a few defects in the whole network but they also know that such defects should not bring the whole NS and EW network to a stop...
It appears that they shut down the network as a safety precaution because of intermittent and increasingly frequent trippings (root causes still unknown probably because of lack of real time data from the monitoring system)........
so the basic design should be reviewed because a robust design should not force a complete shut-down of the network in such situations......it should be able to isolate and contain any electrical faults within the sub-circuits......

Can anyone say...it is due to "hungry, angry" workers?? in the past, present & soon into the future? despite improving the pay etc...look like only the management is getting a big FAT INCREASED, you have a an army team running a civilian outfit, this no brainer to figure out & this is SINGAPORE ARMY, another no need to guess too right?...

People maintain & run any systems, cogs & wheels, require people to maintain....are they looking for mechanical faults only??, that is only one part of the problem....in Chinese, we say, " do we need to draw a picture, to show you, what is going wrong'??
 

Seee3

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hahaha....if smrt claimed that they had identified the root cause(s), then I worry because it will be obvious bullshits......
by acknowledging that they could not find the root cause(s) yet, at least the issue is kept on the table and not swept under the carpet.....

...

Hence if you have a situation where you have intermittent trippings without any obvious causes and such trippings do not recur.....it is nightmare scenario.........
any engineer with field experience will know that intermittent problems are the most difficult to trouble shoot.....
Agreed. When we have intermittent fault due to power surge of 2 lines, they shouldn't be looking at individual equipment. It has to be something more general that is, the source, ie. transformer supplying the current. Electrical surges can be due to lightning and the other cause (that is seldom being considered) - earthing of the "neutral line. After so many years and if nobody in their maintenance crew ever bother to mega the earthing of the neutral line, it can be broken. Or maybe some activities that affect the load balance occurred at that time. Otherwise it is difficult for both line to be affected at the same time.
 

Papsmearer

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Agreed. When we have intermittent fault due to power surge of 2 lines, they shouldn't be looking at individual equipment. It has to be something more general that is, the source, ie. transformer supplying the current. Electrical surges can be due to lightning and the other cause (that is seldom being considered) - earthing of the "neutral line. After so many years and if nobody in their maintenance crew ever bother to mega the earthing of the neutral line, it can be broken. Or maybe some activities that affect the load balance occurred at that time. Otherwise it is difficult for both line to be affected at the same time.

My guess is on a computer software glitch. Especially if the IT dept is populated by apunehs from Mumbai Uni
 

kopirui

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"Everybody has a car, I have 2, I drive one, my wife drives one, we are both professionals, we need to travel."
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you beat me to that.
i was about to post this
 

kopirui

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Tuck You looks a bit lost in the MRT station. Standing there and wishing the train disruption to go away isn't going to work. If he wants to show that he is "hand on", he should at least roll up his sleeves.

The train disruption issue is in the domain of train engineering. Go get the best train's engineering experts in to review the whole track and power infrastructure. You can get a lot more done by focusing on getting the right people in the right domain.

i agreed what u said.
just by standing there and observing wont solve much of a problem.
he probably need to go down track with the maintanece team to see what is going on
 

kopirui

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it's not that simple as just layman's terms of "overloading and over working." the system is designed to take the heavy load and work. what is difficult to troubleshoot are external and sometimes external converted to internal factors, especially when they are related to electrical power issues. for example, my company built a brand new data center facility with the latest and greatest equipment and building accessories including all kinds of plumbing for ventilation, heating, cooling, air-con, fire suppression, cable ducting, airflow, fiber conduits, etc. one morning into the first month, power started tripping and equipment racks started going down one by one. apparently, a coolant pipe condensed the air around it and water droplets concentrated at the lowest point in the plumbing, usually an elbow or vertical turn, and a few drips short the rack below, knocking it out, and in turn it tripped the entire row. other rows were spared because they were isolated by separate power feeds. each row is now on separate redundant feeds. because the condensation did not drip as much when techs typically spent much of their time looking for "root causes" (usually at power distribution panel on rack, cabling and equipment first), it took 2 more months for a sharp-eyed tech to see drops of water on the raised floor where rack had been removed. otherwise if rack had not been removed water drops would puddle on top of rack which is an equipment cabinet, and nobody would have guessed it was condensation from a pipe. the pipe was sealed tight. it just happened to be a very cold pipe collecting ambient moisture from hot air around it as equipment emits hot air and hot air rises, and moisture seeps in everytime door opens or tech walks in. the fix was to have fan trays on every row blowing hot air to a designated exhaust or egress chimney, and avoid rows to be placed at suspected condensation spots. it requires a bad experience to learn new lessons. and smrt cannot afford to let experienced techs go. they are the company's unsung heroes and extremely valuable asset.

nice.
i used to handle equnix sg1 and sg2 .
 

mojito

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No no no. You get the indepedent consultant to come in and say they also don't know. So how? Nobody's fault lor. It can't be helped.
 

Wunderfool

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No no no. You get the indepedent consultant to come in and say they also don't know. So how? Nobody's fault lor. It can't be helped.

Independent consultants will not say that they don't know. They know their stuff very well. They will run through all the systemic checks on the power transmission network ( they are very knowledgeable in this field ) and track infrastructures. They will ask SMRT Engineering about their maintenance protocols. They will evaluate loading and simulate scenarios. They will examine the piping, network routings, metering and others to collate information and data.
End of the day, they will comment on likely causes and fault scenarios.
 

halsey02

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Independent consultants will not say that they don't know. They know their stuff very well. They will run through all the systemic checks on the power transmission network ( they are very knowledgeable in this field ) and track infrastructures. They will ask SMRT Engineering about their maintenance protocols. They will evaluate loading and simulate scenarios. They will examine the piping, network routings, metering and others to collate information and data.
End of the day, they will comment on likely causes and fault scenarios.

End of the day SMRT will suggest that the commuters pay 208% more for their fares, so that, they can improve the system & employer further army personnel with their expertise can make your ride on the trains, an enjoyable one; don'r forget increase the CEO salary too.

SO, "it had to be you, it got to be you, you gotta pay more, whatever the costs"....it is YOU!...YOU PAY!
 

HTOLAS

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It is likely that the laojiao of the maintenance department were retrenched when Ms Saw was CEO. With them went the institutional memories of the organization.

Simply wonderful, 30 years of running SMRT and the maintenance department haven't trained a core group of professionals? Pure genius!
 
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