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Problems with flies and blowies?
Not a problem. A few days a year, when the hot air blows from the interior, the air carries the flies and blowies. No big deal.

If Oztralia is the arse end of the world, Perth has to be the location where waste is expel. Don't try to argue that with me :biggrin:

Anyway, if 'hor sin' is not a prob for you, it is also not a prob for me. I rather die in Sg than in Perth.
 

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If Oztralia is the arse end of the world, Perth has to be the location where waste is expel. Don't try to argue that with me :biggrin:

Anyway, if 'hor sin' is not a prob for you, it is also not a prob for me. I rather die in Sg than in Perth.

I used to live in Perth. Sad to say its gone from an excellent city in 2000 to a polluted traffic laden rat race of a city where people are fighting over parking spaces and working more than 40 hours a week. Overtime seem common now when it was unheard of when I was there. People also dont smile anymore nor are they friendly. The prices will make you think you are in London too.

My favorite part of my Australia trip this time was the airport departure lounge. Could not wait to get out. I felt so good when I got on the plane and the trip was over. I think I felt relief.

Also those pics are very old. If you want scenic beauty go to hundreds of countries inlcuding here in the US or even hawaii, canada etc

Everywhere has it but Australia as its become very polluted

And its also the worlds greatest ripp off too

Australia should be ashamed of itself.
 
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I used to live in Perth. Sad to say its gone from an excellent city in 2000 to a polluted traffic laden rat race of a city where people are fighting over parking spaces and working more than 40 hours a week. Overtime seem common now when it was unheard of when I was there. People also dont smile anymore nor are they friendly. The prices will make you think you are in London too.

My favorite part of my Australia trip this time was the airport departure lounge. Could not wait to get out. I felt so good when I got on the plane and the trip was over. I think I felt relief.

Also those pics are very old. If you want scenic beauty go to hundreds of countries inlcuding here in the US or even hawaii, canada etc

Everywhere has it but Australia as its become very polluted

And its also the worlds greatest ripp off too

Australia should be ashamed of itself.

I won't go overboard to say Oztralia has no redeeming features. There are plenty opportunities there given the very favorable land-to-ppl ratio. There are definitely comparative advantages over US, canada or hawaii (may not exist into the next century!) where it's unwise for me to tell you since you give the impression of being an old aussie hand.

But Perth just can stack up with Melbourne, Sydney or even Brisbane. Bloody place is sandy and flat like the typical Sg gal. enuff said.
 

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If Oztralia is the arse end of the world, Perth has to be the location where waste is expel. Don't try to argue that with me :biggrin:

Anyway, if 'hor sin' is not a prob for you, it is also not a prob for me. I rather die in Sg than in Perth.

It appears that you have oredi got your brain poisoned.

STAY AWAY FROM AUSTRALIA. Just leave your toxic waste in Singapore.
 

neddy

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But Perth just can stack up with Melbourne, Sydney or even Brisbane. Bloody place is sandy and flat like the typical Sg gal. enuff said.

Perth is flat ???? :biggrin:
Try the British Isle for a runway.

I finished re-introducing this city that people called Dullville. But I see this state as a rainbow state, with a pot of gold at the northern end, it is time to make money.

SIAM!
 

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I won't go overboard to say Oztralia has no redeeming features. There are plenty opportunities there given the very favorable land-to-ppl ratio. There are definitely comparative advantages over US, canada or hawaii (may not exist into the next century!) where it's unwise for me to tell you since you give the impression of being an old aussie hand.

But Perth just can stack up with Melbourne, Sydney or even Brisbane. Bloody place is sandy and flat like the typical Sg gal. enuff said.

But relatively speaking Australia is just crap compared to Canada or the US FOR MIGRATION purposes. Other issues of course are different.
 

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What recession?

Australia’s Economic Growth Accelerates to 0.6% (Update1)
By Jacob Greber

Sept. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Australia’s economic growth accelerated in the second quarter on consumer spending, increasing pressure on the central bank to raise borrowing costs from a half-century low.

Gross domestic product rose 0.6 percent from the previous three months, when it grew 0.4 percent, the Bureau of Statistics said in Sydney today. The median estimate of 20 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News was for a 0.2 percent expansion.

Australia’s economy has been “stronger than expected” amid resilient consumer spending, exports and business investment, central bank Governor Glenn Stevens said yesterday after keeping the benchmark interest rate at 3 percent for a fifth month. GDP may expand further in coming quarters as the government spends A$22 billion ($18 billion) on roads, railways and schools.

“Australia’s economy continues to defy the global recession, proving to be more resilient than anticipated,” Bill Evans, chief economist at Westpac Banking Corp. in Sydney, said ahead of today’s report.

Consumer spending advanced 0.8 percent in the quarter, adding 0.5 percentage points to GDP, today’s report said. Exports increased 1 percent, adding 0.2 percentage points to GDP.

The economy grew 0.6 percent from a year earlier, the report showed. Economists forecast a 0.3 percent expansion.

By contrast, Japan’s economy grew at an annual 3.7 percent pace in the second quarter, following an 11.7 percent contraction the previous three months, the U.K.’s GDP dropped 5.5 percent, the most since records began in 1955, and the U.S. shrank 1 percent.

Forecast Changed

Measures of Australian confidence have recovered, and increased construction work and “public demand will also start to provide more support to spending soon and, hence, growth is likely to firm going into 2010,” Governor Stevens said yesterday.

The Reserve Bank scrapped its forecast last month for the economy to contract this year, instead predicting gross domestic product will expand 0.5 percent. The bank expects growth will accelerate to 2.25 percent in 2010 and 3.75 percent in 2011.

Reports this week showed building approvals rose for a second month in July and manufacturing expanded in August for the first time in 14 months. Consumer and business confidence have also surged to the highest levels in almost two years after the government distributed more than A$20 billion in cash to households since the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. almost a year ago.

Woolworths Ltd., Australia’s largest retailer, said last week that profit in the six months ended June 28 jumped 16 percent as demand grew at the company’s supermarkets and Big W discount stores.

Cash Handouts

Still, there are signs the impact from the government’s cash handouts may be waning. Retail sales fell in June, business profits dropped in the second quarter by the most since 2003, company inventories tumbled by a record 3.4 percent from the previous three months and lending by banks and other finance companies to businesses declined in July for a sixth month.

While the central bank’s record 4.25 percentage points of interest-rate cuts between September and April prompted consumers and businesses to bring forward spending plans, “in those areas demand may soften in the near term,” Stevens said yesterday.

“Some types of capital spending are also likely to be held back for a while by financing constraints,” he added.

Rate Outlook

Qantas Airways Ltd., the nation’s biggest airline, said this month it will embark on a A$1.5 billion cost-cutting program after falling demand for travel triggered its first loss in six years.

Traders forecast the central bank’s overnight cash rate target will be 161 basis points higher in 12 months, according to a Credit Suisse Group AG index based on interest-rate swaps at 9:56 a.m. in Sydney.

While inflation should continue “to moderate in the near term,” the likelihood that annual consumer price gains will remain below the bank’s target range of between 2 percent and 3 percent “now looks low,” Stevens said yesterday.

The chain price index, a measure of retail prices, declined 2.2 percent in the second quarter from the previous three months, today’s report showed.

To contact the reporter for this story: Jacob Greber in Sydney at [email protected]

Last Updated: September 1, 2009 21:36 EDT
 

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Unlike the volatile Singapore property casino coaster ride, Perth property price movements are a lot more predictable. Just like the recurring boom where energy resources like LNG are sold on long term contracts of between 10-30 years.

Meanwhile, HDB resale units are still unaffordable for young people and HDB owners have to sign 99-year rental agreements.

Over here, titles are passed down generations of descendents. Is PAP motto still MORE GOOD YEARS? Perhaps for the PAP elites, not for the commoners


Perth house prices surge
SHANE WRIGHT ECONOMICS EDITOR,
The West Australian August 31, 2009, 10:04 am

Perth house prices are continuing their march back with new figures showing they have risen 2.5 per cent so far this year to hit an average $481,493.

Figures released this morning by RP Data and Rismark showed national housing values climbed 0.9 per cent in July to be up 5.9 per cent through the first seven months of 2009.

Darwin continues to lead the way with house values there up 10.8 per cent so far this year to $466,903.

But it is the turnaround in Perth, which had been moribund for more than 12 months until only recently, that suggests home owners are swarming over low interest rates to buy their dream home.

Perth has now overtaken Adelaide, where prices are up 1.9 per cent so far this year, as the capital city with the most sluggish property value growth and is quickly catching up to Brisbane (3.8 per cent).

Perth prices are still about $25,000 lower than their 2007 peak, however there are plenty of encouraging signs.

Over the June quarter the average house remained on the market for 32 days, compared to 59 days last year.

Units are taking on average just 25 days to sell, the fastest turnaround in the quarter. A year ago units averaged 46 days on the market.

RP Data's Tim Lawless said the Australian property market continued to be one of the world's strongest.

"Not only has Australia's residential property market outperformed the other major western markets, it has also provided superior returns compared to shares, commercial property, superannuation, hedge funds and private equities," he said.

"Australia's residential market has been further supported by low mortgage default rates, at just 0.6 percent, compared with 5 percent in the US and 3 percent in the UK."
 

IWC2006

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Unlike the volatile Singapore property casino coaster ride, Perth property price movements are a lot more predictable. Just like the recurring boom where energy resources like LNG are sold on long term contracts of between 10-30 years.

Meanwhile, HDB resale units are still unaffordable for young people and HDB owners have to sign 99-year rental agreements.

Over here, titles are passed down generations of descendents. Is PAP motto still MORE GOOD YEARS? Perhaps for the PAP elites, not for the commoners


Perth house prices surge
SHANE WRIGHT ECONOMICS EDITOR,
The West Australian August 31, 2009, 10:04 am

Perth house prices are continuing their march back with new figures showing they have risen 2.5 per cent so far this year to hit an average $481,493.

Figures released this morning by RP Data and Rismark showed national housing values climbed 0.9 per cent in July to be up 5.9 per cent through the first seven months of 2009.

Darwin continues to lead the way with house values there up 10.8 per cent so far this year to $466,903.

But it is the turnaround in Perth, which had been moribund for more than 12 months until only recently, that suggests home owners are swarming over low interest rates to buy their dream home.

Perth has now overtaken Adelaide, where prices are up 1.9 per cent so far this year, as the capital city with the most sluggish property value growth and is quickly catching up to Brisbane (3.8 per cent).

Perth prices are still about $25,000 lower than their 2007 peak, however there are plenty of encouraging signs.

Over the June quarter the average house remained on the market for 32 days, compared to 59 days last year.

Units are taking on average just 25 days to sell, the fastest turnaround in the quarter. A year ago units averaged 46 days on the market.

RP Data's Tim Lawless said the Australian property market continued to be one of the world's strongest.

"Not only has Australia's residential property market outperformed the other major western markets, it has also provided superior returns compared to shares, commercial property, superannuation, hedge funds and private equities," he said.

"Australia's residential market has been further supported by low mortgage default rates, at just 0.6 percent, compared with 5 percent in the US and 3 percent in the UK."

Bro, it doesn't matter what the statistics shown. For a tiny city like Perth with only 1 mil+ over population, does it justify the escalating property price? Perth is not the financial centre nor the top tourist destination.

I guess we can't compare the mortgage default rates with the UK or US where they are many times bigger.

Of course, property prices still cheaper then Sg in comparison, but is getting close. In terms of lifestyle, its unbeatable, but as for cost, it doesn't have the economy of scale in the US... 21 mil with a landscape similar to North America, but if you look beyond the cost, is a very good place to live in..
 

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Bro, it doesn't matter what the statistics shown. For a tiny city like Perth with only 1 mil+ over population, does it justify the escalating property price? Perth is not the financial centre nor the top tourist destination.

I guess we can't compare the mortgage default rates with the UK or US where they are many times bigger.

Of course, property prices still cheaper then Sg in comparison, but is getting close. In terms of lifestyle, its unbeatable, but as for cost, it doesn't have the economy of scale in the US... 21 mil with a landscape similar to North America, but if you look beyond the cost, is a very good place to live in..

Are you in the financial sector?

The trouble with Perth property price is that we have miner millionnaires. Blue-collars workers who are earning more than fianancial services workers.

With a small population, in an outback city servicing resources, agriculture and to a lesser extent, education, wealth has only so many places to be stored and to grow.

Remember, we are the most isolated city in the world, if we have another city the size of Singapore 300km up north, property prices will be lower.

Singapore blue-collars workers will do well in Perth, but all the banking are done in the eastern states, except the Bank of Western Australia - they are moving east as well.
 

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Are you in the financial sector?

The trouble with Perth property price is that we have miner millionnaires. Blue-collars workers who are earning more than fianancial services workers.

With a small population, in an outback city servicing resources, agriculture and to a lesser extent, education, wealth has only so many places to be stored and to grow.

Remember, we are the most isolated city in the world, if we have another city the size of Singapore 300km up north, property prices will be lower.

Singapore blue-collars workers will do well in Perth, but all the banking are done in the eastern states, except the Bank of Western Australia - they are moving east as well.

To me it doesnt matter if the current property is high or low, as long as the economy is good, plenty of resources, plenty of good jobs, ppl are getting high salaries, and the rich sinkies or rich chinamen are moving to Perth... the property prices will continue to grow.

Ya on the right track mate ! But.. please plan for 'exit strategy', if the hot is getting hotter.. or the hotter gets 'extremely' hot !
 

neddy

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To me it doesnt matter if the current property is high or low, as long as the economy is good, plenty of resources, plenty of good jobs, ppl are getting high salaries, and the rich sinkies or rich chinamen are moving to Perth... the property prices will continue to grow.

Ya on the right track mate ! But.. please plan for 'exit strategy', if the hot is getting hotter.. or the hotter gets 'extremely' hot !

The point is that the properties prices are sustainable because the wealth generated are necessary for economic activities and human survival.

Once it get extremely hot, I will cool down in NZ.

Do remember that this country is regulated, unlike the asian casinos in Singapore, Shanghai, etc
 

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The point is that the properties prices are sustainable because the wealth generated are necessary for economic activities and human survival.

Once it get extremely hot, I will cool down in NZ.

Do remember that this country is regulated, unlike the asian casinos in Singapore, Shanghai, etc

Good plan...

History shown kelantan malaysia has been booming for the last 20yrs due to good resources.. the Bass Strait - Esso has been booming for the last 50yrs due to good resources.. People can 'cow-bey-cow-bu' for all i care.. bottomline, you are making money alongside with the booming states, you shld be living well.. To me 'cheap' is not always good.. Value-for-money is the key..
 

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Good plan...

History shown kelantan malaysia has been booming for the last 20yrs due to good resources.. the Bass Strait - Esso has been booming for the last 50yrs due to good resources.. People can 'cow-bey-cow-bu' for all i care.. bottomline, you are making money alongside with the booming states, you shld be living well.. To me 'cheap' is not always good.. Value-for-money is the key..

I know someone who is riding the boom in Darwin right now.
That hidden gem is still value-for-money.
 

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I know someone who is riding the boom in Darwin right now.
That hidden gem is still value-for-money.

Please tell me the goods of Darwin. I was there in 1984. It was
very laidback then. Aboriginies made quite a pitiful sight; mostly
drunk and flat out.
 

neddy

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Please tell me the goods of Darwin. I was there in 1984. It was
very laidback then. Aboriginies made quite a pitiful sight; mostly
drunk and flat out.

Darwin not in my radar. I have to check with this friend for updates.

But skills shortages and lack of quality hotels are some of the problems facing Darwin.

This territory came out up in property price appreciation.

In 1984, Darwin was still suffering from the post-tramatic events of Cyclone Tracy. These days, with minerals export/ports/infrastructure construction, the place is breathing some life.
 

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Please tell me the goods of Darwin. I was there in 1984. It was
very laidback then. Aboriginies made quite a pitiful sight; mostly
drunk and flat out.

Its the same expect house prices there have become so high its now more unaffordable than London England

Just read the reports

But what else can you expect from such a terrible country like Australia
 

axe168

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Its the same expect house prices there have become so high its now more unaffordable than London England

Just read the reports

But what else can you expect from such a terrible country like Australia

Please dont blame us.. pls blame the mining, gold, diamonds, and gas hidden under ground.. they are the one who caused the prices to escalate.. we are just the victims enjoying it :wink:
 

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In 1984/85 when I was Popeye the sailor man on a livestock
carrier for sheep; plying between Fremantle and S'pore. I always head towards Perth upon arrival.

During that time, Perth was just a sleepy town with just a shopping street(can't remember the name). I always end up buying Cadbury chocolate and
honey, and the occasional kangaroo hide or koala keychain.

Now Perth probably looks like the S'pore of Oz. Time really wait for no man.
It passes by like a shooting star. Lo and behold, it's already 24 years(2009).
I might make a nostalgic trip to Perth just for old time sake.
 
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neddy

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In 1984/85 when I was Popeye the sailor man on a livestock
carrier for sheep; plying between Fremantle and S'pore. I always head towards Perth upon arrival.

During that time, Perth was just a sleepy town with just a shopping street(can't remember the name). I always end up buying Cadbury chocolate and
honey, and the occasional kangaroo hide or koala keychain.

Now Perth probably looks like the S'pore of Oz. Time really wait for no man.
It passes by like a shooting star. Lo and behold, it's already 24 years(2009).
I might make a nostalgic trip to Perth just for old time sake.

Don't have high expectation for Perth. The eastern states are changing a lot faster than sleepy Perth. It has always been like that.

The original settlers in Perth come from the part of Britain that resist revolution and change. They became convicts and carried on the tradition here.

Freo is still a working port, but turning into a university town, University of Notre Dame.
A number of households have more than 1 fridge.

Shops here still closed at 6pm except on Thur (city Friday)
Only tourist strips have Sunday trading.
We also voted against Daylight Saving.

Maybe, that is why Perth is giving a baby boom. We have a lot of time for that :biggrin:
 
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