Singapore political leadership and their sacrifices

[Cruxx]

I don't know about the rest of the world but the politicians in NZ are worthless. If they weren't politicians, they'd be starving to death.

A 2nd tier country as NZ isn't worth mentioning in the first place.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Why did it have to wait till 2016? Everything that is wrong with the fucking PAP could easily have been fixed in 2011!

It is human nature to be resistant to change until forced at the precipice. You remember "The Day the Earth Stood Still" starring Keanu Reeves?

 

[Unrepented]

1. Can relatives buy
2. How far/deep in the family tree is the reach of such a restriction

Anyone know? Just want to improve my general knowledge

Sacrifices that they have to make:

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e. Cannot profit from 'insider info' unlike civil servants who still can buy shares.

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[rusty]

Why did it have to wait till 2016? Everything that is wrong with the fucking PAP could easily have been fixed in 2011!

Well as you know, Singapore is predominately Chinese with kiasu mentality and probably testing water. 2016 will be a day of reckoning for LKY if he can survive.

 

[kingrant]

Good pts too!

Politicians lead and they don't sacrify. The people sacrifice. LHL asking you to bear with them for the overcrowding problems, MRT screwups, floods, Singtel outage, housing shortages, stop at two....etc

 

[ah_phah]

Well as you know, Singapore is predominately Chinese with kiasu mentality and probably testing water. 2016 will be a day of reckoning for LKY if he can survive.

2011 was a bad yr for many dictators & tyrants, many have gone to see the maker... the remaining ones taken their queue numbers for 2012.

 

[rusty]

2011 was a bad yr for many dictators & tyrants, many have gone to see the maker... the remaining ones taken their queue numbers for 2012.

No, I don't wish it's LKY's turn. He hasn't tasted defeat yet.

 

[Windsor]

The mrbrown show: a minister shares his thoughts on the pay cut.

I like the part, "Are we not the cable ties that holds the tracks of the nation together. Are we not the drains that draw away the floods of economic crisis."

 

[palden]

No sacrifices. Only sexcrifices. Become MP cannot call chicken.

 

[GoldenDragon]

No sacrifices. Only sexcrifices. Become MP cannot call chicken.

No need to call chickens. They have many female volunteers waiting and wanting to be screwed by their MP. Already happened.

 

[Conqueror]

They Can Hardly Heck Care Lah

One thing that always seem to stand out in comments by public and even analysts is the "exceptional" sacrifices our political leaders have to make.

Are sacrifices something that only Singapore leaders have to make? This is an important question, because many people use it to argue for their "exceptional" remuneration.

Political leaders are elected into office thru GEs, so they are "protected" from being fired immediately if they dont perform, but they are paid like CEOs of private corporations. Voters have to wait for 5 years to do so and only if the electoral rules have not been tweaked to provide them cover, not even mentioning that more idiots can get "elected' thru the GRC system on the coat tails of Ministers!

Why are you people asking the obvious ? Will a robber say, "No, that's too much" ?

It's lies upon another layer of lies. Some people like us will see through it, no matter what. The acts and words are NOT targeted at us. They know we are the stubborn lots that will want to see them ship out soon. These things are done to 'entertain' those that are sitting on the fence and the stupid, naive lots. The old folks (stubborn) and traitors (PA, RC, YPAP members) just couldn't care less what was done or said. The fearful ones are the hopeless lots because they go with the tide. So, this tactic is not applicable to them.

As long as they can convert some fence sitters into devils, its an outright victory for them. They are also weary and wary about the failure to convert FTs into PAP supporters as fake citizens because of compulsory NS. They are going for an all out war against us, oppo supporters. We seem to be losing the war. There may NOT be a 2016 GE hopeful.

Saw resignation is a shroud or flare to let you lose a radar lock on the ministerial issue. Don't be fooled. Focus the firepower on that as well as tracing her whereabouts too. I wanna know where she goes to. She's another spirit of plague.

 

[HedgeTrader]

No need to call chickens. They have many female volunteers waiting and wanting to be screwed by their MP. Already happened.

Ram is the pimp collect commission to build new station. Get Lui to fuck Saw. Saw very unhappy say why fuck rear never fuck front. Lui say he only rear admirer. Saw very angry resign already LOL

 

[Conqueror]

Ram is the pimp collect commission to build new station. Get Lui to fuck Saw. Saw very unhappy say why fuck rear never fuck front. Lui say he only rear admirer. Saw very angry resign already LOL

No lah. Rear Admiral is butt admirer. LOL He's basically another butt-head. PAP buy this kind of players for netizens and oppos to thrash PAP's pride into a pulp.

 

[kazuo]

Well how long more can power be concentrated in the hands of the few? History shows time and again that power and wealth dissipates by the time a dynasty hits the third generation. Look at empires all round the world.

 

[freedalas]

Ram is the pimp collect commission to build new station. Get Lui to fuck Saw. Saw very unhappy say why fuck rear never fuck front. Lui say he only rear admirer. Saw very angry resign already LOL

Haha........lol. But the reality is Cleopatra Saw is a lesbo, well known since her school days. A number of her previous partners are prominent people now. And in case u are wondering which role she plays, she's the butch.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Haha........lol. But the reality is Cleopatra Saw is a lesbo, well known since her school days. A number of her previous partners are prominent people now. And in case u are wondering which role she plays, she's the butch.

Men are at fault here coz none of us gave her the chance to feel like a woman.

 

[Ramseth]

Men are at fault here coz none of us gave her the chance to feel like a woman.

You go and volunteer to console her since she and LTY fell out already.

 

[GoldenDragon]

You go and volunteer to console her since she and LTY fell out already.

If you arrange, I 'on' the deal. No condom to be used hor. Must make sure she won't forget me. Time and place, please.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Hi Frens,

instead of talking about the sacrifices these clowns make, which are hardly any,,what about the benefits and perks they get in the job?

I wrote this in another thread,,but here are my main points.

Hey, can all in this forum add in the joys and benefits of being a Singapore Minister?

My thoughts are:

1) Fully paid travel, 1st class,
2) Fully Paid Hotels, Presidential Suite
3) Free security escort,,and on overseas travel, get security escort + Convoy travel etc, that is travel in style and not on MRT.
4) Free state dinners etc local and overseas,,so sure got super duper good food.
5) These benefits extends to spouse and family as well.
6) Children serving NS are treated as White Horse (extends to whole company mates too) and no need to worry if kenna tekan too much etc, and better food and treatment,,and after BMT get cushy job.. or if go OCS,,its white horse treatment too
7) lots of expenditure can be classified as job related expenses, like make over, expensive branded dresses,, kate spade hand bags..I mean official function surely they wont wear stuff buy in normal stores right?
8) get to rub shoulder with the higher ups in society,,so sure got external benefits what..
9) and cock up just say sorry and move on,,,minimal scrutiny and oh be in LKY GRC..sure get voted in one,,,,

anymore to add?

 

[QXD]

Well said. A post worthy of broadcasting throughout the social media.

The capable leaders in society aren't going into politics because generations of Singaporeans have been depoliticized by the hollowing out of civil society, muzzling of the media, denial of civil liberties, and grassroots indoctrination via PA and other partisan bodies masquerading as community outfits.

in first world countries what attracts people into politics is the chance to participate, to feel that you can make a positive difference, something that is looked up to by your contemporaries, the "feel-good" limelight factor, etc. All this is absent in Singapore because of our barren political landscape created by having all the power concentrated in the hands of a few who make all the key decisions unilaterally. The "few" also have their tentacles and grip on every facet of society, every public institution, every avenue of expression.

And also not forgetting the image of the govt and its credibility has gone way down the drain for the past 20 years. Which decent chap would want to be openly associated with such an establishment?

That's why the PAP has to attract talents with money and cannot escape it. Even Gerard Ee and the whole gangbang kept talking about how it would be more difficult henceforth to attract talent. They are admitting basically they have to use money to buy people over, and they have lost the ability to appeal to the citizens' sense of community spirit and servant leadership.

That's the whole damn trouble. 50 years of self-serving policies and destructive methods, and they have destroyed their ability to stand on the moral high ground and rouse the political calling of talented people.

This is the start of the decline, and no amount of pay cuts will solve the problem. The problem is with the PAP itself, the monolithic entity that began well in 1959 but was systematically moulded by LKY into a rancid potpourri of megalomaniac and selfish individuals with no sense of community or country.