Chitchat Sheng Shiong mati leow lah!

[eatshitndie]

surely u dont expect supermarkets to cater only to people who just want to grab a couple of items and go like as though they are at a petrol station convinence store,can this amazon smart sensor technology handle mass or bulk purchases quickly and accurately without fucking up or making an error somewhere.

theres already technology in australia that can handle light basket purchases,those automatic checkout counters are fantastic,the sensors are extremely fast and sensitive,just scan ur items and bag them,the machine even accepts cash which makes things super convenient.but this amazon tech is promising to revolutionize things,like theres sensors on every shelf or something,and they can literally track the movement of items from shelf to basket or bag or whatever and know exactly what u have at all times and charge it to ur phone.how can such an advance technology not fuck up?not to mention how expensive is it going to be?u need sensors everywhere,and probably need special tags for every product in ur store.

like i've already said, not enthused by it nor think it's going to work. it requires a great amount of labor restocking, correcting missplaced items, cleaning sensors, maintaining systems due to dirt, moisture, fingerprints, saliva, stains, semen, sperm, bodily fluids all over the place. moreover, every food item needs proper packaging and labelling (more expensive). grocery items like freshly picked parsley will have a problem being sealed up in a bag or box as it needs a dose of sprinkled water every 30 minutes and air to breathe.

 

[numero uno]

dont u just love it when videos dont explain how their technology works i can already imagine a thousand and one ways this thing can fuck up,and they have to come up with bombastic words like "sensor fusion" and "deep learning algorithm" like business speak managers and ministers use when they are trying to contribute or direct when they dont really know anything like for example paradigm shift or promote synergy while differentiating core competencies thru value adding services and transformational change while fungibly envisioning client centric archictectures.if u hear any minister or ceo uttering those words run as fast as u can.

why not. to all the naysayers here, wake up. your job is on the line. 20 years ago nobody envisage credit card billing would be the norm. just 10 years ago nobody envisage online shopping would replace hard stores .10 years ago people scoff at electric cars, driverless cars, GPS, internet, cyber surveillance, face recognition and digital ID. not now. soon 90% of hard labour workers would be fired. the change is on a log scale ie the rate of change would increase exponentially and all these from the western countries ideas on IT and AI. only stupid sinkies like to to talk big when they haven't avhieved anything great and belittle others when they haven't proven themselves. taxis, drivers, waiters, labourers etc would be redundant. once drones come on , even delivery boys wuold be dead meat. even teachers would be useless crap once online learning and neuro simulation inputs become a reality in 5 years time. I have been to the most advanced labs in USA and the change is rapid and all shrouded in secret. they don't want people to steal their ideas and technology. even touring and travelling would be a thing of the past once virtual reality kicks in. imagine visiting the Vatican and admiring all the art treasures up close and even touching it from the comfort of your home. Thats what they are developing now.

 

[shittypore]

Comes a time u dont need a PM and their Cronies, save millions. But knowing Loong, he will increase his pay and tat of his Cronies.

 

[johnny333]

...every food item needs proper packaging and labelling (more expensive). grocery items like freshly picked parsley will have a problem being sealed up in a bag or box as it needs a dose of sprinkled water every 30 minutes and air to breathe.

When was the last time you shopped at NTUC?

They have pre-packed many items e.g. strawberries, blueberries, apples, tomatoes, celery, brussel sprouts, ... They do it to hide the bad apple with the good apples There was a complaint by someone in this forum. His complaint was that when he bought a pack of tomatoe, some bad tomatoes were hidden among the pack.

Cost of labour shouldn't be a problem. They can always find cheap labor to do it. As for Spoilage, they prolong shelf life by irradiating food stuff & the use of pesticides also increases the shelf life.

 

[eatshitndie]

When was the last time you shopped at NTUC?

They have pre-packed many items e.g. strawberries, blueberries, apples, tomatoes, celery, brussel sprouts, ... They do it to hide the bad apple with the good apples There was a complaint by someone in this forum. His complaint was that when he bought a pack of tomatoe, some bad tomatoes were hidden among the pack.

Cost of labour shouldn't be a problem. They can always find cheap labor to do it. As for Spoilage, they prolong shelf life by irradiating food stuff & the use of pesticides also increases the shelf life.

in sg, amazon go will likely work because cheap labor is plentiful. but not in u.s. where cost of labor is approaching minimum wage for most states. remaining states have already implemented minimum wage, which is typically $10 an hour. the notion that this app and tech will automate and eliminate labor is a fallacy. behind the scenes in wholesale warehouses and retailer stocking areas are groups of workers breaking down pallets, boxes, loose items, packaging, and repackaging items.

 

[johnny333]

I would bet that Amazon is big enough to force their suppliers to do the packing.

 

[eatshitndie]

I would bet that Amazon is big enough to force their suppliers to do the packing.

don't be naive lah. in book and non-perishable items, it's easy to manage supply chain. in perishable items such as food, it's a different story. anyway, salads and prepackaged mixes for cooking at home these days come in small packages. of course, snacks, soft food and fluids already come in small packs from suppliers. but suppliers don't ship onesies twosies. they pack into larger boxes, shrink wrap, and ship in pallets or a bundle of boxes to retail storage. otherwise, small packages become a mess in the shipping van or truck during transportation. each retail store is still required to break pallets, bundles, boxes, and sort through hundreds of items from several suppliers in a compact storage area. not all go straight to shelves, thus the holding area has to have refrigeration room for perishables, freezer room for meats, and larger room for everything else, especially beverages. keeping the storage area neat, tidy, safe and accessible is already a labor-intensive task, not even talking about inventory management and painstakingly transferring items to shelf from storage. my family is in food biz so i know every angle and compkexity.

 

[johnny333]

Many years ago I never invested in Amazon because I was skeptical about their book business, but look at them now & how they have expanded their products & market.

Do you know that Lazada has bought RedMart, an online Spore grocer
Jack Ma now owns Lazada & he has plenty of $$$.

If you have $ you can buy expertise. Amazon also has $ & they are also coming to Spore. We will have to wait to see what happens when the two fight it out.

Jack Ma & Jeff Bezos are not stupid. If they have plans to enter the food distribution business they must have a plan.

 

[shittypore]

Many years ago I never invested in Amazon because I was skeptical about their book business, but look at them now & how they have expanded their products & market.

Do you know that Lazada has bought RedMart, an online Spore grocer
Jack Ma now owns Lazada & he has plenty of $$$.

If you have $ you can buy expertise. Amazon also has $ & they are also coming to Spore. We will have to wait to see what happens when the two fight it out.

Jack Ma & Jeff Bezos are not stupid. If they have plans to enter the food distribution business they must have a plan.

Not in Sinkiepore, coz most malls owned by GIC, GIC got to protect tos NTUC dogs.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Many years ago I never invested in Amazon because I was skeptical about their book business, but look at them now & how they have expanded their products & market.

Do you know that Lazada has bought RedMart, an online Spore grocer
Jack Ma now owns Lazada & he has plenty of $$$.

If you have $ you can buy expertise. Amazon also has $ & they are also coming to Spore. We will have to wait to see what happens when the two fight it out.

Jack Ma & Jeff Bezos are not stupid. If they have plans to enter the food distribution business they must have a plan.

i considered buying amazon stock a few weeks ago,but looking at the fundamentals it looks more like a gamble than anything,nobody really knows what jeff bezos is trying to do.....at the current price right now,the stock is selling at 175x pe ratio....which means at current earnings,it means it will take 175 years to recoup ur investment,this doesnt mean amazon is a terrible company or insanely overpriced,amazon does a incredible huge amount of business nearly 107 billion dollars in 2015,however its gross profit is only 35 percent or 35 bil.....take away operating expenses the profit is only 2 bil or 2 percent,and once jeff bezos pays the interest and taxes on the 2 bil,he is left with only 500 mil,a company doing 100 billion of business making only 500 million in profit,thats less than 0.5 percent profit margin.iv seen companies with better profit margins,for example singtel which has a revenue of 17b in 2015 and earnings of 5b,thats nearly 30 percent profit margin.

now maybe jeff bezos is trying to save on taxes,channeling all his profits into r&d and finding new niches to expand his behemoth,instead of maximising profits and declaring taxes i dont know.from the interviews iv watched,it seems like he is unwilling to change direction anytime soon,he seems more interested in pure growth and r&d than in streamlining the current elephant and cutting off all the deadweight and unprofitable businesses.

 

[johnny333]

Not in Sinkiepore, coz most malls owned by GIC, GIC got to protect tos NTUC dogs.

I'm actually surprised that they are going to let Amazon into Spore because many businesses are not going to be able to compete.

LHL may have allowed Amazon into Spore to buy the american support for the TPP. Now that Trump is in charge he will not support TPP, the GIC are in for a rough time because they will lose many tenants once Amazon starts it's operations in Spore.

 

[eatshitndie]

how to let in amazon in sg when its fullfilment warehouse requires at least 6.9 football fields?

 

[eatshitndie]

they have 80 fullfilment centers and all of them require at least 1500 workers to receive goods, sort, unpack, pack, repack, shelf, unshelf, pack, ship. it's not even 69% automated as the whole op is extremely labor-intensive.

 

[eatshitndie]

can tell you that their fullfilment warehouse is sorted and organized by hand, not by robots. scanning of barcodes help with part of the inventory management and automation. it's not as high tech as you think.

 

[eatshitndie]

do you think book storage in an amazon warehouse is automated? wrong. every book is sorted and shelved by hand, just like in any public library. amazon refrains from showing pics with a brigade of workers shelving books in their book section, but during peak shipping season, the warehouse is filled with an army of workers. for sg to accommodate an amazon fullfilment warehouse, thousands of cheap ft's will have to be hired.

 

[eatshitndie]

receiving section of amazon warehouse where pallets from various suppliers are still in shrinkwrap. if they go into the perishable food business, the same modus operandi will not cope with time-sensitive items and spoilage. food will need to be unpacked and refrigerated and or frozen right away.....by hand.

 

[bodycells]

How come the title never mentioned NTUC..? Why.. Sinkie loser.. Why..

 

[Rogue Trader]

I'm actually surprised that they are going to let Amazon into Spore because many businesses are not going to be able to compete.

LHL may have allowed Amazon into Spore to buy the american support for the TPP. Now that Trump is in charge he will not support TPP, the GIC are in for a rough time because they will lose many tenants once Amazon starts it's operations in Spore.

You really underestimate the Pap's greed. They will let Amazon come in as long as GIC is allowed to invest in it. Just like how Uber and Grab were invited in to kill taxi drivers.