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Shanmugam - one guy leaks State secret, ALL will ganna jailed

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No cat and mouse game with Singapore's secrets
Shanmugam: Recipients of leaks, those publishing them will all be punished
By Jeremy Au Yong

IF SINGAPORE had its own version of the WikiLeaks disclosures, it would not be just the direct culprits taken to task; recipients of the information and anyone else involved in its publication would also be in the soup.

Laying out the Government's position on information leaks, Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam noted that the Official Secrets Act allows prosecution of everyone with a role in the leak, not just the public officers responsible for it.

He said: 'The Government has consistently taken this approach, and has on occasion charged private citizens for their roles in leakage of government data.'

To do otherwise, he said, would make government information that is confidential 'the object of a cat and mouse game'.

He was answering a question from Mr Zaqy Mohamad (Hong Kah GRC) on Singapore's information security policies in the light of whistleblower website WikiLeaks running thousands of United States diplomatic cables leaked to it by an American soldier.

In the wake of the leaks, the so-called Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination (Shield) Bill was introduced in both houses of Congress last month to tighten control over official information.

Critics of the Bill argue that it should apply only to government employees; media outlets and others should still be free to publish the information leaked.

Mr Shanmugam used opponents of the Shield Bill to illustrate his point.

He said: 'If recipients of official information who are not themselves public servants cannot be prosecuted or prevented from publishing it, it would create an unacceptable situation where people outside government would have every incentive to obtain confidential information from public servants in every way possible.

'And public servants would constantly be weighing the benefits to themselves of releasing the confidential information, against the likelihood of getting caught and punished. Meanwhile, the broader public interest will suffer.'

Mr Shanmugam, who is also Law Minister, also spelt out the procedures already in place in the Singapore Government to keep confidential information under wraps.

'Every officer undergoes security clearance before being employed by the public service. He is also informed that access to classified information is granted on a need-to-know basis. He is required to comply with the secrecy requirements spelt out in the government instruction manuals and to sign the undertaking to safeguard official information under the Official Secrets Act,' he said.

Some countries had allowed their secrecy rules to be weakened in the belief that this was in the interest of freedom of information, but Singapore did not subscribe to such a belief, he said.

'We do not intend to encourage cat and mouse games. Public interest in free flow of information cannot justify the abuse of confidential government information,' he said.

In fact, he argued that it would be impossible to conduct diplomacy or bilateral negotiations if what was said or written in the process ran the risk of being made public.

'Officials will no longer commit their true thoughts and reasons in writing for fear of leaks. The end result, ironically, will be less transparency and less accountability,' he said.

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wikiphile

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would this come across as a suprise to anyone in Singapore? We're all guilty until proven innocent anyway, this is how this country works :biggrin:
 

annexa

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If Gahmen or some scholar director did wrong, then how? Cannot whistle blow and wait for the shit to hit the ceiling and country declare bankrupt?

Backward thinking!
 

drifter

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north korea and singapore and can become good friends ...
 
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myfoot123

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All these are done to protect PAP crimes. Remember the abolishment of estate duty when someone is expected to die soon? That save pap families millions from paying taxes. Making evading tax legal by abolishing estate duty is appalling. What if one of the PAP members installed a golden tap in their office toilet, will the contractor be sued for being whistle blower? The whole parliament and Singapore Systems are beyond hope. I can't wait for drastic and complete overhaul of the whole PAP by bringing in any tom dick and harry to show PAP some colors.
 

streetsmart73

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wah reminds me of ancient times...where u commit an offence, the whole clan is wiped out.


hi there

1. erh red!
2. it also reminds me of something leh.
3. ms case.
4. why only some handful kena something and yet the short sheep is still standing tall.
 

Dreamer1

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Tharman Shanmugaratnam,While serving as economics director of the Monetary Authority of Singapore in 1993, Tharman was charged under the Official Secrets Act (OSA) in a case involving the release of Singapore's 1992 second-quarter flash projections to a research director, Mr Raymond Foo, and economist Manu Bhaskaran, of Crosby Securities, and to journalists Kenneth James and Patrick Daniel of the Business Times.[4]

The OSA case, which stretched over more than a year, was reported extensively in the Singapore press. Tharman contested and was eventually acquitted of the charge of communicating the GDP growth flash projections. Senior District Judge Richard Magnus then introduced a lesser charge of negligence, because the prosecution's case was that the figures were seen on a document that he had with him at a meeting with the private economists which he had attended with one of his colleagues. Tharman contested this lesser charge too, and took to the witness stand for a few days.

The court nevertheless convicted him together with all the others in the case, including the editor of Business Times newspaper which published the figures. Tharman was fined S$1,500, and the others S$2,000. As there was no finding that he knowingly communicated any classified information, the case did not pose any hurdle to his subsequent appointment as the Managing Director of the Monetary Authority of Singapore.
 

annexa

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This ministar just gave us the best reasons to vote in oppos. Now civil servant can no longer act as watchdogs or challenge their bosses on bad decisions. Ministar is telling us that more oppos, hopefully 50% is needed in parliament to check on gahmen as he has effectively removed internal checks.

Thank you ministar.
 

Leongsam

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IF SINGAPORE had its own version of the WikiLeaks disclosures, it would not be just the direct culprits taken to task; recipients of the information and anyone else involved in its publication would also be in the soup.


If you want to get all your ministers locked up, just email them some state secrets.:rolleyes:
 

jw5

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Guilt by association? Hahahaha.
Senator McCarthy must be grinning somewhere.
Hey, how about prosecuting the parents of young killers? Aren't they responsible for their kids being killers?
 

peterpan777

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wah reminds me of ancient times...where u commit an offence, the whole clan is wiped out.

It does not apply to Singapore football team. when the team underperform. the whole is sack but not the coach.

Who choose the player? -> the coach.

Whole team sack? => No player perform to expectation. Otherwise, even you perform also kanna sack.

If a coach can't even coach a single player in a football team to perform upto expectation, can't imagine what the coach can do.

But the coach still there.

No wonder, no hope for sport in Singapore.
 

neddy

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In the wake of the leaks, the so-called Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination (Shield) Bill was introduced in both houses of Congress last month to tighten control over official information.

Critics of the Bill argue that it should apply only to government employees; media outlets and others should still be free to publish the information leaked.

Mr Shanmugam used opponents of the Shield Bill to illustrate his point.

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Some countries had allowed their secrecy rules to be weakened in the belief that this was in the interest of freedom of information, but Singapore did not subscribe to such a belief, he said.

The case for FOI is to make the govt account for its actions.

secrecy rules need not be weakened in FOI laws, because there are other laws that govern the released of such information.

Remember the US Watergate scandal that destroyed Pres. Nixon.
This is a remember of the time when a government did the wrong thing and whistleblowers ensure that the guilty were punished.


If you want to get all your ministers locked up, just email them some state secrets.:rolleyes:

The line is drawn between Us and Them. Those working in Singapore's Forbidden Palace are immuned from prosecution.
Example. No one outside the Forbidden Palace should know what the dwellers are up to.
 
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tonychat

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The line is drawn between Us and Them. Those working in Singapore's Forbidden Palace are immuned from prosecution.
Example. No one outside the Forbidden Palace should know what the dwellers are up to.

Please remember that it is you sinkies that causes this to happen. blame no one for that.
 
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