[Sg video] - Paralympic swimmer Sophie Soon in stand-off over guide dog at Rocky Master outlet in Hougang

[dredd]

From an economic point of view, if I own a restaurant, I'll probably have a special place for people with guide dogs to sit and dine. Having them dine anywhere within the premises will only pose a risk to health as well as the comfort of other diners.

By doing so, everyone is happy.

 

[orh mee suah]

OMFG yes open your bloody eyes and LEARN HOW TO READ you blooming moron, it is NOT "if the conditions...have not been met" - it is MAY PERMIT (the guide dog) if the conditions ARE MET!! Here, I shall paste AGAIN and also give you a free English comprehension lesson just out of pity for your retarded parents who had no brains for you to inherit:

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Extract of the Environmental Public Health (Food Hygiene) Regulations, Chapter 95, Section 113, Regulation 29(3), (4), (13)
(3) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), the licensee of a food establishment or private market may permit any Guide Dog accompanying a blind or visually impaired person to be brought into the dining or refreshment area or any toilet of the licensed premises if the Guide Dog is:

• Kept under proper control.
• Restrained from straying or causing annoyance or nuisance to any person or animal, or damage to any property.
• Held in a leash.

[translation for morons like you: IF the 3 conditions are met, THEN the f&b establishment MAY PERMIT/ CAN ALLOW guide dogs]
(4) Where the licensee of a food establishment or private market permits guide dogs accompanying blind or visually impaired persons to be brought into his licensed premises under paragraph (3), the notice referred to in paragraph (2) shall specify that guide dogs are permitted within the licensed premises.

[translation for morons like you: IF the f&b establishment PERMITS/ ALLOWS guide dogs, THEN their notice SHALL/ MUST say so.]

(13) In this regulation “Guide Dog” means a Dog that is specially trained to aid a particular blind or visually impaired person.
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Get it? Or still confused?? Indeed (and again), "permit" means "allow", so "may permit" means "may allow". And as already mentioned, you are the idiot, not me. So the only bigger idiot would be your mother for giving birth to a piece of shit like you. You can make a fool of yourself by asking the authorities and MUIS instead and show me. I will even make the question easier for you, go ask them "MUST F&B establishments allow guide dogs? Are they REQUIRED to do so?" and come back with their answer.e meaning of may and shall in plain language.

Haiz......why do you explain away may and shall in plain language? I've already suggested that you read the regulation in context. If a word is in a law or regulation, look it up in a legal dictionary.

may
1. To be permitted; to be at liberty; to have the power. 2. Whenever a statute directs the doing of a thing for the sake of justice or the public good, the word may is the same as shall.

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[gutpunch]

Haiz......why do you explain away may and shall in plain language? I've already suggested that you read the regulation in context. If a word is in a law or regulation, look it up in a legal dictionary.

may
1. To be permitted; to be at liberty; to have the power. 2. Whenever a statute directs the doing of a thing for the sake of justice or the public good, the word may is the same as shall.

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For the umpteenth time, yes you moron, learn how to read and indeed I mean including the context! Again, look at the following:

(4) Where the licensee of a food establishment or private market permits guide dogs accompanying blind or visually impaired persons to be brought into his licensed premises under paragraph (3), the notice referred to in paragraph (2) shall specify that guide dogs are permitted within the licensed premises.

AS ALREADY MENTIONED EARLIER, this means that IF the f&b establishment PERMITS/ ALLOWS guide dogs, THEN their notice SHALL/ MUST say so. Firstly, this is precisely why there is even a "where" which means "if" or "in the event that". Secondly, otherwise this whole green part would be omitted as unnecessary, while the earlier section (3) would have also used the same "shall" instead of "may". Before pretending to understand any legal dictionary, you need to possess adequate common sense first which you clearly do not.

To prove my point further, if F&B establishments are REQUIRED TO (meaning they MUST) allow guide dogs as you insist, then obviously this would be reflected in the news(paper) IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW. But NOWHERE does it ever say so and in fact, it keeps saying "are allowed". You are the only idiot making this retarded claim which is not evidenced anywhere.

No need to ask me to argue in court or with MUIS cos Straits Times already reported that guide dog users here face rejection about 50 to 70 per cent of the time when patronising a new place - if your retarded claim is true then there would be at least one F&B establishment having to explain themselves in court already. Like I said, YOU go ask the authorities/ MUIS and come back with their answer.

 

[eatshitndie]

the most pet-friendly and guidedog-friendly cafe is the toast box at simei. majority outdoor seating and under shade. can kiau kar there and see chiobus walk by from mrt to mall. can also have small talk with aunties who bring their small dogs there. sumtimes get lucky get invited to small hdb flat at simei and squeeze small tits and grab small pussies in small spaces.

 

[orh mee suah]

For the umpteenth time, yes you moron, learn how to read and indeed I mean including the context! Again, look at the following:

(4) Where the licensee of a food establishment or private market permits guide dogs accompanying blind or visually impaired persons to be brought into his licensed premises under paragraph (3), the notice referred to in paragraph (2) shall specify that guide dogs are permitted within the licensed premises.

AS ALREADY MENTIONED EARLIER, this means that IF the f&b establishment PERMITS/ ALLOWS guide dogs, THEN their notice SHALL/ MUST say so. Firstly, this is precisely why there is even a "where" which means "if" or "in the event that". Secondly, otherwise this whole green part would be omitted as unnecessary, while the earlier section (3) would have also used the same "shall" instead of "may". Before pretending to understand any legal dictionary, you need to possess adequate common sense first which you clearly do not.

To prove my point further, if F&B establishments are REQUIRED TO (meaning they MUST) allow guide dogs as you insist, then obviously this would be reflected in the news(paper) IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW. But NOWHERE does it ever say so and in fact, it keeps saying "are allowed". You are the only idiot making this retarded claim which is not evidenced anywhere.

No need to ask me to argue in court or with MUIS cos Straits Times already reported that guide dog users here face rejection about 50 to 70 per cent of the time when patronising a new place - if your retarded claim is true then there would be at least one F&B establishment having to explain themselves in court already. Like I said, YOU go ask the authorities/ MUIS and come back with their answer.

Aright, smart alec, you've ridiculed yourself yet again by quoting paragraph 4!
You did not insert the words from paragraph 2 “if so directed by the Director-General or any authorised officer,” to your interpretation of paragraph 4!

 

[Loofydralb]

From an economic point of view, if I own a restaurant, I'll probably have a special place for people with guide dogs to sit and dine. Having them dine anywhere within the premises will only pose a risk to health as well as the comfort of other diners.

By doing so, everyone is happy.

What? You wouldn't want to jab them first?

 

[dredd]

What? You wouldn't want to jab them first?

You are an imbecile and a first class moron whose aim is to pick fights online but an absolute coward when challenged to meet.

Please do not reply my post anymore as I have no wish to engage a loser like you.

 

[LexLuthor]

 

[Loofydralb]

You are an imbecile and a first class moron whose aim is to pick fights online but an absolute coward when challenged to meet.

Please do not reply my post anymore as I have no wish to engage a loser like you.

Running away after to advocated for people to take the mRNA and now you want to wash your bloody hands off all the dead and dying?
You mudderfucker.

 

[gutpunch]

Aright, smart alec, you've ridiculed yourself yet again by quoting paragraph 4!
You did not insert the words from paragraph 2 “if so directed by the Director-General or any authorised officer,” to your interpretation of paragraph 4!

You poor bastard you, remember what you yourself said? CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!

(2) Subject to paragraphs (4) and (6), where any premises are licensed as a food establishment or private market, the licensee shall, if so directed by the Director-General or any authorised officer, cause to be displayed in a conspicuous place at the licensed premises a sufficient number of suitable notices to the effect that live animals are prohibited within the licensed premises.

(4) Where the licensee of a food establishment or private market permits guide dogs accompanying blind or visually impaired persons to be brought into his licensed premises under paragraph (3), the notice referred to in paragraph (2) shall specify that guide dogs are permitted within the licensed premises.

Translation for morons like you: IF authority directs F&B establishments to display notice that live animals are prohibited, then they SHALL/ MUST display (meaning if not directed then don't even need to display). This is subject to IF the f&b establishment PERMITS/ ALLOWS guide dogs, THEN in this case this notice (which says that live animals are prohibited) SHALL/ MUST however also say that but guide dogs CAN.

Now I am really curious as to whether you are indeed the only one here who is so retarded as to think that F&B establishments are REQUIRED TO (meaning they MUST) allow guide dogs, so I will actually start a new thread on this about you.

 

[orh mee suah]

You poor bastard you, remember what you yourself said? CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!

(2) Subject to paragraphs (4) and (6), where any premises are licensed as a food establishment or private market, the licensee shall, if so directed by the Director-General or any authorised officer, cause to be displayed in a conspicuous place at the licensed premises a sufficient number of suitable notices to the effect that live animals are prohibited within the licensed premises.

(4) Where the licensee of a food establishment or private market permits guide dogs accompanying blind or visually impaired persons to be brought into his licensed premises under paragraph (3), the notice referred to in paragraph (2) shall specify that guide dogs are permitted within the licensed premises.

Translation for morons like you: IF authority directs F&B establishments to display notice that live animals are prohibited, then they SHALL/ MUST display (meaning if not directed then don't even need to display). This is subject to IF the f&b establishment PERMITS/ ALLOWS guide dogs, THEN in this case this notice (which says that live animals are prohibited) SHALL/ MUST however also say that but guide dogs CAN.

Now I am really curious as to whether you are indeed the only one here who is so retarded as to think that F&B establishments are REQUIRED TO (meaning they MUST) allow guide dogs, so I will actually start a new thread on this about you.

Wow!
You can't be serious.
SFA is a statutory Board.
The regulations are made available to the public.
The guide dog regulation cannot be at odds with the rights of a disabled person to have access to places used by the public.
There's no point arguing til the cows come home.
Keep your opinions to yourself.

 

[gutpunch]

Wow!
You can't be serious.
SFA is a statutory Board.
The regulations are made available to the public.
The guide dog regulation cannot be at odds with the rights of a disabled person to have access to places used by the public.
There's no point arguing til the cows come home.
Keep your opinions to yourself.

Firstly, yes indeed SFA's advisory is available to the public and is (therefore) IN LAYMAN TERMS:

1. Are guide dogs allowed into food retail establishments?
Yes, guide dogs are allowed into food retail establishments. Under Regulation 29(3) of Environmental Public Health (Food Hygiene) Regulations, a food establishment may permit any guide dog...

And secondly, precisely because F&B establishments (just like shops/ pubs/ clubs) are private businesses which therefore reserve the right to refuse service or to turn away customers, SFA's circular even says IN A WEAK COAXING (not strong authoritative) MANNER:

5 As operators of food retail establishments, we seek your understanding and encourage you to show your care towards persons with disabilities by allowing guide dogs in your establishment

There is nothing to argue because you are undeniably wrong.
Are you so desperate to save face that you have to resort to insisting on your ridiculous claim despite knowing that you have absolutely nothing to back it up?
Or do you seriously have genuine difficulty grasping the meaning of the above two quoted sentences, which even a primary school kid would have no problems understanding?
If so, then kindly seek professional help for your mental disability.