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Singapore has picked the wrong target in its balance of powers strategy: Global Times commentary

Mr Chen Jiulin (founder of Beijing Joseph Investment Co and former CEO of China Aviation Oil) wrote an opinion piece, "Singapore should support China's South China Sea stand too", in the Global Times recently, hoping that Singapore "will stop using US' power consistently to contain China". Mr Chen has good intentions, but I think it is quite difficult for Singapore to change its stand. A rough recap will provide some understanding on how Singapore's views on security came about.

Singapore was at a loss when it was forced to leave Malaysia in August 1965. Fortunately, the strong leadership of the People's Action Party crafted a survival and development strategy to transform Singapore into a "global city". Simply put, it is to take advantage of Singapore's excellent geographical location and conditions to bring in capital from Western nations led by the United States, thereby giving the West a vested interest in Singapore. That way, not only will they help Singapore in economic development, but they will also provide security against attacks from Singapore's hostile neighbours. According to Lee Kuan Yew, this is called the "balance of powers strategy". If one recalls, in the early 1970s, he once clarified that "balance of powers" did not mean two evenly-matched sides in a confrontation but rather a "state of stability". There was already a so-called claim of "Pax Americana" at the time, and Singapore's security was mainly to take shelter under US wings, and in the eyes of Lee Kuan Yew, "balance of powers" actually meant American hegemony.

For a long time after Singapore's independence, its "balance of powers strategy" was mainly targeted at hostile neighbours. After the opening up of China, Singapore enjoyed good relations with China and took a prominent position among Asean countries in forming economic and trade ties with it. But as we entered the 21st century with the swift rise of China, Singapore partook in the benefits brought about by China's rapid development, but at the same time gradually directed the "balance of powers strategy" towards China. Some say that Singapore's behaviour was a kind of suspicion and apprehension commonly harboured by small nations against big countries, so it is not a surprising move. But I think that, even if small and medium-size neighbours did harbour varying degrees of apprehension towards China, Singapore's position stood out considerably.

Firstly, Singapore leaders and think-tank scholars have hinted on several occasions that China will get aggressive once it becomes powerful. Among them, Lee Kuan Yew once said, the very name "China" meant "Middle Kingdom", and that "many small and medium countries in Asia are concerned. They are uneasy that China may want to resume the imperial status it had in earlier centuries, and have misgivings about being treated as vassal states". As Singapore is a country with a predominantly Chinese population, the international community has mistakenly perceived Singapore to possess a better understanding of China. Therefore, the above-mentioned opinion is rather misleading .

Secondly, Singapore is not an official military ally of the US, but it did not hesitate to allow US littoral combat ships to station at Changi Naval Base, and recently, the deployment of a P-8 spy plane. This has turned Singapore into a platform for the US to contain and deter China, and at times it seems even more anxious to boost hegemony in the Asia-Pacific than the US itself.

Thirdly, not only did Singapore "take sides" on the South China Sea issue, it also leaned towards Japan on the Diaoyu islands dispute. When Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong visited Japan in August 2013, he reminded China that "whether it is the Senkakus (Diaoyu islands), whether it is the South China Sea", if China uses force, it will lose in terms of its broader reputation and standing in the world.

Such "hard-hitting" actions and comments from Singapore have increasingly drawn criticism from Chinese academics and in public opinion. In reality, there have already been voices and opinions from academics and the people which are different from the government's official stance. Singapore should reflect on this: Can it state clearly in what ways China has threatened its safety? Can it sustain the contradictory two-faced approach towards China? If the South China Sea conflict between China and the US deepens, and the US drags Singapore in, will Singapore remain safe?

The writer is a researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) in Beijing. This article was published in the opinion section of the Global Times Chinese edition on June 1, 2016.
 

Pinkieslut

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Sinkapour is wacked by:

1. India Indians FTs;
2. Malaysian Bumiputras;
3. Angmo Multinational Companies Supporting Pinkdot and hiring only FTs;
3. Indonesian Maids;
4. Indonesian Politicians;
5. Pinoy Politicians;
6. ATB Whores;
7. AMDK "Expats";
8. Pinoy FTs;

Who want to add more?
 

frenchbriefs

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Singapore is apprehensive because LKY knows singapore is ruled by a chink dictator and what living under the chinks was like,america was no less evil but as long as u stayed on their good side and did not get invaded by them,things were fine and dandy,

chinks will always be suspicious of chinks,but we can all agree on one thing.....ANG MOH ARE DA BEST!!!!!
 

winnipegjets

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Sinkapour is wacked by:

1. India Indians FTs;
2. Malaysian Bumiputras;
3. Angmo Multinational Companies Supporting Pinkdot and hiring only FTs;
3. Indonesian Maids;
4. Indonesian Politicians;
5. Pinoy Politicians;
6. ATB Whores;
7. AMDK "Expats";
8. Pinoy FTs;

Who want to add more?

And the PAP says that they are doing a good job ...should earn more, maybe $10 million per ministar
 

kryonlight

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Sinkapour is wacked by:

1. India Indians FTs;
2. Malaysian Bumiputras;
3. Angmo Multinational Companies Supporting Pinkdot and hiring only FTs;
3. Indonesian Maids;
4. Indonesian Politicians;
5. Pinoy Politicians;
6. ATB Whores;
7. AMDK "Expats";
8. Pinoy FTs;

Who want to add more?

You missed out the biggest group: Daft & humji sinkies who form 70% of sinkieland's population.
 

myfoot123

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Singapore should reflect on this: Can it state clearly in what ways China has threatened its safety?

Its PRC citizens have wreaked havoc in Sillypore society. Need we state more? Look also at its own rowdy PRC tourists everywhere in the world, such shameful behavior is the result of China's own insecurity and arrogance. I have never like China and I urge China to stop bullying people around the South China Sea.
 

syed putra

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Its PRC citizens have wreaked havoc in Sillypore society. Need we state more? Look also at its own rowdy PRC tourists everywhere in the world, such shameful behavior is the result of China's own insecurity and arrogance. I have never like China and I urge China to stop bullying people around the South China Sea.

We need to support mongolia to hit china from the back, rape its women, kill its men and bring order back to the region. It should be heaven mandated.
 

Papsmearer

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when you are friendly to everyone, you end up being like the girl that gets a reputation as a slut and whore. This is what has happened to PAP's fucked up foreign policy. It makes no sense to anyone.

Here is Old Fart professing to be a friend to the US and to China. But when you allow one friend to base military forces in your country, its natural that the other friend will become envious and say why not let me do it to. Especially when those 2 friends are great rivals of each other.

Singapore's foreign policy straight out of independence should have been one of neutrality. Yes, its ok to sign defence co-operation treaties with some countries, even the Swiss have observer status at NATO. But we should have followed the policy of Sweden and Switzerland and remain a neutral in this part of the world. What's the point of having a strong military and a large capacity to produce your own weapons when they are not used for you to be neutral? Sweden and Switzerland have some military production capablity, and have managed to remain neutral for decades. In fact, I would venture to say that based on Singapore's geography, its much easier to remain neutral. we do not share a long border with many countries like the Swiss do. As an island, its much easier to defend. Now we are faced with many countries wanting this and that. In the South China Sea issue, we could have just said "Leave us out of it, we are neutral country". And we have no stake in it. We could have refused to allow US to use any of the facilities in singapore for its military and keep neutral that way. China would respect us more if they know we are neutral, rather then view us with deep suspicion now due to our relationship with their 4 great enemies, the US, Taiwan, India and Vietnam. Truly Goh Keng Swee and harry were 2 of the most paranoia jackass around.
 

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The writer just accused Singapore of being in an American hegemony. Why is he not sued by PAP?
 

Papsmearer

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Singapore is apprehensive because LKY knows singapore is ruled by a chink dictator and what living under the chinks was like,america was no less evil but as long as u stayed on their good side and did not get invaded by them,things were fine and dandy,

chinks will always be suspicious of chinks,but we can all agree on one thing.....ANG MOH ARE DA BEST!!!!!

U want to be invaded by the US, its the biggest boost to your economy and freedom ever. Look at Germany and Japan.
 

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Pinky and his merry men have always been very concerned about what the rest of the world thinks of them. He learnt that from his father. That is why they have stopped short of bringing out the tanks or executing people who disagree with them, like China and N Korea.
 

mojito

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This affirms Singapore has been doing the right thing all along. Everyone wants Singapore to be their lapdog, and that my friend is how we punch above our own weight.
 

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This affirms Singapore has been doing the right thing all along. Everyone wants Singapore to be their lapdog, and that my friend is how we punch above our own weight.

Wrong. This affirms Singapore has been doing the wrong thing all along. Nobody wants Singapore to be their lapdog, and that you gullible moron, is how you show what a twit you are. :biggrin:
 

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you support angmoh gunboat diplomacy?




Singapore is apprehensive because LKY knows singapore is ruled by a chink dictator and what living under the chinks was like,america was no less evil but as long as u stayed on their good side and did not get invaded by them,things were fine and dandy,

chinks will always be suspicious of chinks,but we can all agree on one thing.....ANG MOH ARE DA BEST!!!!!
 
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