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PAP wants George Yeo to lose

serenditpity

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Heard this from a reliable source amongst the highest echelons of the PAP.

The PAP was well aware that Aljunied is a risky proposition for them. This was clear even in 2006 and GY just scraped through.

The PAP also knew that this time LTK is going to contest the Aljunied GRC, especially after the electoral boundaries were redrawn. They had factored that in and they knew that Aljunied is a goner in that case.

There was apparently considerable thinking to move GY to East coast GRC so that his success is guaranteed. This was mooted by GCT. It carried through the day and apparently GY was also sure that he would be moved to East Coast.

Suddenly for no apparent reason, Lim Swee Say was moved to East Coast and GY was retained at Aljunied. Apparently the decision was taken by LHL, TCH and WKS. No one knows the rationale for that decision.

There are 2 theories going around:

One, they didn't want to sacrifice Lim Swee Say and wanted a safe seat for him.
Second, some sections in the PAP believed that GY was gaining international stature (much more than the PM himself) and wanted to cut down his size. He was also considered to be GCT's man and LHL wanted him out respectably.

One should also note that it is only GCT who is making statements supporting GY. LHL is conspicuous by his silence on GCT. LKY's threat to Aljunied residents (leaving residents confused as per GY) is actually sounding the death knell for GY.

So, PAP wants GY to lose.

If this has even some truth to it, one can easily speculate that there's enough dissent even within PAP ranks and one just has to wait for Mentor Lee to exit for the dissent to come out in the open.

Based on last night's appraisal at PAP's HQ, they have given up on Aljunied and Hougang.

Everyone is keenly watching the Bishan - Toa Payoh GRC as that seems to be at risk now.
 

HTOLAS

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Asset
So if we have a ruling party that is about to implode, isn't it time we have enough opposition who have legislative experience to take over when that happens?
 

Unrepented

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Loyal
Just vote opposition, dont care about all their internal mother fucking stories.

Heard this from a reliable source amongst the highest echelons of the PAP.

The PAP was well aware that Aljunied is a risky proposition for them. This was clear even in 2006 and GY just scraped through.

The PAP also knew that this time LTK is going to contest the Aljunied GRC, especially after the electoral boundaries were redrawn. They had factored that in and they knew that Aljunied is a goner in that case.

There was apparently considerable thinking to move GY to East coast GRC so that his success is guaranteed. This was mooted by GCT. It carried through the day and apparently GY was also sure that he would be moved to East Coast.

Suddenly for no apparent reason, Lim Swee Say was moved to East Coast and GY was retained at Aljunied. Apparently the decision was taken by LHL, TCH and WKS. No one knows the rationale for that decision.

There are 2 theories going around:

One, they didn't want to sacrifice Lim Swee Say and wanted a safe seat for him.
Second, some sections in the PAP believed that GY was gaining international stature (much more than the PM himself) and wanted to cut down his size. He was also considered to be GCT's man and LHL wanted him out respectably.

One should also note that it is only GCT who is making statements supporting GY. LHL is conspicuous by his silence on GCT. LKY's threat to Aljunied residents (leaving residents confused as per GY) is actually sounding the death knell for GY.

So, PAP wants GY to lose.

If this has even some truth to it, one can easily speculate that there's enough dissent even within PAP ranks and one just has to wait for Mentor Lee to exit for the dissent to come out in the open.

Based on last night's appraisal at PAP's HQ, they have given up on Aljunied and Hougang.

Everyone is keenly watching the Bishan - Toa Payoh GRC as that seems to be at risk now.
 

SIFU

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Loyal
pls not another this type of thread again.

stop making wp think aljunied has been won already. u want complacency to creep in at this very vital few days?? wp must make the final push.

cooling day pap sure will come out with new tricks tru the states media.
 

scroobal

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Loyal
Welcome back bro.

The third theory is that GY was planning to ride off into the sunset in view of his son's condition. He has also undertaken some personal endeavors relating to religion and charity especially resurrecting the ancient university in India.

You however right that it is only GCT that is sending supporting signals to GY and not the Lees. Your comment about TCH, LHL and WKS is spot on and with the tea master being Lim Swee Say, we are looking at the 4 people who run the selection process for the candidates and where they stand.
 

lockeliberal

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Loyal
dear Seren

The ground observers on nomination day spoke of dismay and surprise written on GYs face when LTK turned up. Someone was feeding GY some very bad info if they really believed ltk was not coming out.

I definitely do not have high level access but I can see based on ground reading and observations from the m&d in the fields is that LHL might have thought of scarificing George hence his fathers statements that they would regret and repent. However his change came from his lunch time rally yesterday and he realized to late in the game the following.

The network effect of the differing parties hitting hard and harder on the bread and butter issues. Whethe they know it or not the reality is without any written rules of coorperation they have helped reinforced each other and hastened the PAP rot and panic.

People are carrying the message from Aljunied to TP and vice versa without intending to without the political parties intending to via fb via twitter LHL thought the loss would be stemmed to GY but unfortunately more and more is at risk and hence his attempt to save everyone now including gy


Locke


echelons of the PA
The PAP was well aware that Aljunied is a risky proposition for them. This was clear even in 2006 and GY just scraped through.

The PAP also knew that this time LTK is going to contest the Aljunied GRC, especially after the electoral boundaries were redrawn. They had factored that in and they knew that Aljunied is a goner in that case.

There was apparently considerable thinking to move GY to East coast GRC so that his success is guaranteed. This was mooted by GCT. It carried through the day and apparently GY was also sure that he would be moved to East Coast.

Suddenly for no apparent reason, Lim Swee Say was moved to East Coast and GY was retained at Aljunied. Apparently the decision was taken by LHL, TCH and WKS. No one knows the rationale for that decision.

There are 2 theories going around:

One, they didn't want to sacrifice Lim Swee Say and wanted a safe seat for him.
Second, some sections in the PAP believed that GY was gaining international stature (much more than the PM himself) and wanted to cut down his size. He was also considered to be GCT's man and LHL wanted him out respectably.

One should also note that it is only GCT who is making statements supporting GY. LHL is conspicuous by his silence on GCT. LKY's threat to Aljunied residents (leaving residents confused as per GY) is actually sounding the death knell for GY.

So, PAP wants GY to lose.

If this has even some truth to it, one can easily speculate that there's enough dissent even within PAP ranks and one just has to wait for Mentor Lee to exit for the dissent to come out in the open.

Based on last night's appraisal at PAP's HQ, they have given up on Aljunied and Hougang.

Everyone is keenly watching the Bishan - Toa Payoh GRC as that seems to be at risk now.[/QUOTE]
 

BuiKia

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Generous Asset
With the huge supporters for the WP, whoever that is going there sure die one.

PAP should start looking for a new guy to take over MFA.

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QXD

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Bro Serendipity,

Welcome back. Your appraisals from the deepest reaches of PAP central, though far and between, is very much appreciated. I remember you in 2006 when you mentioned the emergency meeting PAP had with regards to their backfiring tactics on the JG issue. Thank you and hope you can do your part in helping the opposition/Singaporean cause.
 

scroobal

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Loyal
In this forum nearly a month ago I revealed that LTK was leaving Hougang to contest the GRC. No one had revealed that or even hinted that before. That info did not come from WP members. It came from a govt source. Rest assured that GY and the rest of the establishment were well aware. This is the govt of Singapore that we are talking about. This is the same govt that bugged Ryan Goh's house in Perth and interviewed the shopkeeper near his daughter's place of abode about her demeanor. This is the same govt that entered Francis Seow's hotel room in the US and emptied his trash can in his room. The only people that seemed surprised are his party faithful except for an inner circle. Only the full slate was not finalised.

If this Govt wanted to save GY, they would have done it. All it takes is GY to move as they did with LSS.


dear Seren

The ground observers on nomination day spoke of dismay and surprise written on GYs face when LTK turned up. Someone was feeding GY some very bad info if they really believed ltk was not coming out.
 

aurvandil

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Loyal
Someone was feeding GY some very bad info if they really believed ltk was not coming out.

Surprised that you don't know.

This was the result of a disinformation campaign that took forever to implement. LTK was supposed to lead a "sneak" attack in Moulmein Kallang. Also, it was not supposed to be concentrated effort. Rather Sylvia and Chen was supposed to take Aljunied while LTK went to Moulmein Kallang with his "surprise" commando team.

This was fed to the moles who brought the poison back to their master.

On Nomination Day, LTK took the wrong bus and ended up in the wrong nomination centre. The rest is history.
 

hairylee

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Loyal
Just vote opposition, dont care about all their internal mother fucking stories.

Yes, and fuck care which Minister lose.
They have made their millions and will be will taken care of even if they lose.
So what are these poor peasants worrying for a million dollars Minister.
 

dankos

Guest
With the huge supporters for the WP, whoever that is going there sure die one.

PAP should start looking for a new guy to take over MFA.

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no wonder the wp flags sold out. so many ppl buy.

i couldn't get it at the kallang ave rally. my brother couldn't get it at the ubi rally today.:( but at least i got 2 wp umbrellas. :biggrin:
 

Bigfuck

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Asset
If George repents, he is always welcomed to join the overwhelming majority of Singaporeans aiming for a first world parliament and civil society for Singapore.
 

Forvendet

Alfrescian
Loyal
My reinterpretation of what LKY said: GY and team have 5 years to repent and try to win Aljunied back (or fuck off and I'll find some others).
 

Seee3

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Asset
I must be becoming too imaginative. Somehow, I feel that collectively, this GE is a 3-corner fight. The groupings are :

1. LHL & Co
2. GTC & co + SDP + NSP
3. Other Opp parties
 

serenditpity

Alfrescian
Loyal
Thanks bro :smile: I am not sure whether GY was planning to ride off into the sunset. But during the last couple of years, his contribution to cabinet meetings/discussions were marginal. He still has great aspirations for Singapore. He has been wanting to get out of Foreign affairs.

Welcome back bro.

The third theory is that GY was planning to ride off into the sunset in view of his son's condition. He has also undertaken some personal endeavors relating to religion and charity especially resurrecting the ancient university in India.

You however right that it is only GCT that is sending supporting signals to GY and not the Lees. Your comment about TCH, LHL and WKS is spot on and with the tea master being Lim Swee Say, we are looking at the 4 people who run the selection process for the candidates and where they stand.
 

serenditpity

Alfrescian
Loyal
hi Locke:

My view and that of the view of PAP is the only other GRC at risk is the TP-Bishan. In other GRCs the PAP will lose share of the vote, but there seems to be no risk. Well, if everyone knew that LTK is going to be in aljunied (including the PAP and several people in civil service), I wonder how come GY didn't know. I think he knew as well, but probably was complacent as he was given to understand that he would be moved to east coast GRC.

What actually transpired at the last moment to move LSS to east coast and keep GY in Aljunied is a big mystery.

dear Seren

The ground observers on nomination day spoke of dismay and surprise written on GYs face when LTK turned up. Someone was feeding GY some very bad info if they really believed ltk was not coming out.

I definitely do not have high level access but I can see based on ground reading and observations from the m&d in the fields is that LHL might have thought of scarificing George hence his fathers statements that they would regret and repent. However his change came from his lunch time rally yesterday and he realized to late in the game the following.

The network effect of the differing parties hitting hard and harder on the bread and butter issues. Whethe they know it or not the reality is without any written rules of coorperation they have helped reinforced each other and hastened the PAP rot and panic.

People are carrying the message from Aljunied to TP and vice versa without intending to without the political parties intending to via fb via twitter LHL thought the loss would be stemmed to GY but unfortunately more and more is at risk and hence his attempt to save everyone now including gy


Locke


echelons of the PA
The PAP was well aware that Aljunied is a risky proposition for them. This was clear even in 2006 and GY just scraped through.

The PAP also knew that this time LTK is going to contest the Aljunied GRC, especially after the electoral boundaries were redrawn. They had factored that in and they knew that Aljunied is a goner in that case.

There was apparently considerable thinking to move GY to East coast GRC so that his success is guaranteed. This was mooted by GCT. It carried through the day and apparently GY was also sure that he would be moved to East Coast.

Suddenly for no apparent reason, Lim Swee Say was moved to East Coast and GY was retained at Aljunied. Apparently the decision was taken by LHL, TCH and WKS. No one knows the rationale for that decision.

There are 2 theories going around:

One, they didn't want to sacrifice Lim Swee Say and wanted a safe seat for him.
Second, some sections in the PAP believed that GY was gaining international stature (much more than the PM himself) and wanted to cut down his size. He was also considered to be GCT's man and LHL wanted him out respectably.

One should also note that it is only GCT who is making statements supporting GY. LHL is conspicuous by his silence on GCT. LKY's threat to Aljunied residents (leaving residents confused as per GY) is actually sounding the death knell for GY.

So, PAP wants GY to lose.

If this has even some truth to it, one can easily speculate that there's enough dissent even within PAP ranks and one just has to wait for Mentor Lee to exit for the dissent to come out in the open.

Based on last night's appraisal at PAP's HQ, they have given up on Aljunied and Hougang.

Everyone is keenly watching the Bishan - Toa Payoh GRC as that seems to be at risk now.
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