My final solution to all of sg’s problems

[VIBGYOR]

Re: My final solution to all of sg’s problems

1)Overcrowding at public places (actually its everywhere)
2)The demise of the English language (most Singaporeans emigrants are really English language speakers)
3)National Service liability (its so passe)
4)Promoting indigenous Singaporean culture (where every race can feel comfortable with)
5)Cost of living (can't keep up with the Joneses so i will leave and enjoy the greater benefits with much lower cost of living)

Oh Lord, this is the first time i heard of people migrating because of the demise of english language! you must be an english supremacist! i guess you are in UK now?? lol...

promoting indigenous singaporean culture is another first...lol..

as for the rest i share similar sentiments...

 

[VIBGYOR]

Re: My final solution to all of sg’s problems

hello... excess land area would be better utilized when converted into 18 hole golf courses

WTF! more goddam golf courses???

do you know how many goddam golf courses are there now in sinkapore! google map you will be amazed!!

 

[angie II]

good... all the political heros streaming in one by one... anymore? FALL IN !!

BARIS..... SEDIIIII YA!!!

 

[tonychat]

Angry one,

you forgot one thing. CHange the behavior of sinkies. That will solve all problems you mentioned.

Once sinkie starts to wake up , PAP will no longer in power and they are unsinkified to vote the correct pple on top and policies will change as you wish.

All these problems that you stated are derived from the source of sinkie individual with their horrendous sinkie behavior and thinking.

 

[cleareyes]

Mr jacys/darkcloud/Wisely,

Why do you always get jealous at the talents of others ?

Can you even come up with anything half of this ?

Shame on you !

was I jealous? or you simply cant find anything to attack me?

love it when I could make you react the way I have predicted.

Looks like you are owned by your own stupidity.

 

[VIBGYOR]

could both of you focus on the real issue and stop your bickerings?

i dun think we are interested to see...

 

[eeoror88]

The main problem facing Singapore is a rapidly aging population with a low birth replacement rate.

Granting citizenships to PRCs is the only way to solve the problem.

If disagree, please give an alternative solution.

 

[madmansg]

when you forming new politcal party. You should be Sg PM by next General Election.

 

[eeoror88]

OK. You become my running mate. Then at rally you can shout " NS is killing SG" for one million times !!

 

[zhihau]

WTF! more goddam golf courses???

do you know how many goddam golf courses are there now in sinkapore! google map you will be amazed!!

:p:p:p trust you to miss the whole plot in that sentence :p:p:p

 

[zhihau]

Defense
· NS is killing Singapore. NS must be abolished to free our men to compete with their counterparts worldwide in the new economy. They graduate faster, establish themselves faster, and retain their youthful idealism and entrepreneurial spirit this country badly needs.
· Abolishment to be done in phases to allow armed forces to transition into a volunteer army model. Attract a new breed of serviceman who joins for adventure, not to be a deadwood.
· Get heavily involved in UN peacekeeping missions, fight pirates, maintain peace in the region. Promotion to be based on experience and performance in these real hotspots, not paper qualifications.
· Maintain reserve regiments of people who are military nuts but don’t want to serve full-time. Organise camps for young people to teach them the very basics of rifle handling and urban warfare, via NCC etc.
· Shift doctrine emphasis from conventional warfare to counter-terrorist and intelligence training.
· Invest in cutting edge technology with Japan and USA, not buy 2nd hand hardware. Then one S’pore soldier will be as powerful as 10 enemy soldiers.
· Nurture a martial mindset for regulars with regular and practical training, like street survival, street martial arts, all kinds of weapon handling, disaster relief… we need soldiers who don’t flinch from challenges, not paper generals who are even scared of ah bengs.

There are many good points in Angry One's post. I myself wont abolish NS but will like it to be shorten to a year. If the Bundeswehr can do it why SAF cannot.
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Ppl who like the idea of soldiering but had already finish with their 6 years cycle shd be form into militias, something like the National Guards unit. Monetary benefits should be given to encourage ppl to join.

3)National Service liability (its so passe)

all these defense defense thingie... reminds me of my exchanges with bro thinkall back in the old Delphi forum...

transfer the content over here, and i wonder if bro madmansg would be mad if the NSF are all given full salaries

bro thinkall,

my 2 cents worth on the selective considerations on military policies are as such:

i certainly agree that the current NS period is a tad too lengthy, and i certainly agree that instead of constitutional conscription, men between 18~20 years of age should be allowed to choose their entry time into the armed forces, paid a full salary instead of the current allowances.

i reckoned that 12 months sounds a plausible frame for revised BMT (4 months), vocational training (4 months) and active NS (4 months) should be enough to equip a layperson with basic military skills to survive as a fairly trained infantry man and/or pioneer.

specialists and officers with real leadership qualities are then selected only after the full completion of the 12 month cycle, and these groups of folks would be given to option to be relieved of the full 10 year reservists cycle, provided they fulfill the the following requirements.

all selected personnels upon completion of the specialists' training (6 months) would undergo officers' selection, the unselected folks could then choose to serve active NS as a specialist for 12 months or undergo 6 year reservists cycle as an NCO.

the selected officer-to-be would then undergo officers' training (6 months), upon graduation, the officers can choose to serve as active officer for another 6 months or undergo 3 year reservists as a commissioned officer.

any drop-outs from any of the courses would render the specialists an infantry man/pioneer; and likewise, the officer to an NCO level. reservists training and call-ups for normal infantry men should be cut down to the age of between 29~31years of age, which still coincides with the current 10 year cycle, but with no more than 2 weeks of service per call up, and no more than 1 call up per year.

any voluntary service exceeding a certain criteria would be credited and can be used to offset the number of reservists cycles; and to end off this point, real soldiers are war-trained, peace time training is merely theory afterall.

soldiers need to learn to shoot straight, NCOs need to learn to lead and to shoot straight, officers need to learn to plan, to lead and to shoot straight... and most important of all, the regulars need to motivate, to plan, to lead and to shoot straight.

the above is a suggestion, and improvements can definitely be made...

zh

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Bro, I think you got it all wrong on this one. Obviously what the TS appears to have done is to start the ball rolling on various critical policy issues, get people thinking, raise awareness, start putting flesh on the bones, sort of a WIP.

iF YOU WANT TO SEE IT AS A GREAT EFFORT, GOOD FOR YOU.

but I m not going to waste time to write a full 15 page reply on every point he made as if you had bother to read carefully between the lines, the amount of preparation needed to actually achive just 5 out of so many points.

angry is one thing, logic and rationality is another.

looks like he is not logical at all

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Aiyah just look at the geopolitical difference between NZ and S'pore.

However I am not saying that the NS policy should not be reviewed periodically. Due to change of circumstances etc.

Speaking of your 3rd point National Slavery.... errr.. or is it ...service...or is ...whatever. Sinkeeland has got a population of about 4.5m. New Zealand is much bigger than Sinkeeland but the population is about the same as Sinkeeland. Why is it that NZ does not have compulsory National Slavery but Sinkeeland has? So is NS at all necessary???? Food for thoughts.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Look at TNP 19/12, picture of Lions' Ridhuan Muhamad being welcomed back from Hanoi @ Changi by his SIX children and I must say attractive MILF wife (can't imagine she has given birth to 6 kids, and from the photo the last is an infant)

The main problem facing Singapore is a rapidly aging population with a low birth replacement rate.

Granting citizenships to PRCs is the only way to solve the problem.

If disagree, please give an alternative solution.

 

[angry_one]

Bro Zhihau,

Your comments remind me about what I used to think of the army leadership here. It's something similar to what you say.

The military should not select officers before BMT or based on their family backgrounds. Everyone goes through BMT first. The best of these go to SISPEC. And then the golden/silver bayonet winners go to OCS. You'll get officers worthy of respect this way - they are the PROVEN best.

Israel uses a system similar to this, and their officers are highly respected. It's also because their officers lead men into battle, even in LTCs. In sg, only the commandos practise this system, and they don't question their officers.

my 2 cents worth on the selective considerations on military policies are as such:

i certainly agree that the current NS period is a tad too lengthy, and i certainly agree that instead of constitutional conscription, men between 18~20 years of age should be allowed to choose their entry time into the armed forces, paid a full salary instead of the current allowances.

i reckoned that 12 months sounds a plausible frame for revised BMT (4 months), vocational training (4 months) and active NS (4 months) should be enough to equip a layperson with basic military skills to survive as a fairly trained infantry man and/or pioneer.

specialists and officers with real leadership qualities are then selected only after the full completion of the 12 month cycle, and these groups of folks would be given to option to be relieved of the full 10 year reservists cycle, provided they fulfill the the following requirements.

all selected personnels upon completion of the specialists' training (6 months) would undergo officers' selection, the unselected folks could then choose to serve active NS as a specialist for 12 months or undergo 6 year reservists cycle as an NCO.

the selected officer-to-be would then undergo officers' training (6 months), upon graduation, the officers can choose to serve as active officer for another 6 months or undergo 3 year reservists as a commissioned officer.

any drop-outs from any of the courses would render the specialists an infantry man/pioneer; and likewise, the officer to an NCO level. reservists training and call-ups for normal infantry men should be cut down to the age of between 29~31years of age, which still coincides with the current 10 year cycle, but with no more than 2 weeks of service per call up, and no more than 1 call up per year.

any voluntary service exceeding a certain criteria would be credited and can be used to offset the number of reservists cycles; and to end off this point, real soldiers are war-trained, peace time training is merely theory afterall.

soldiers need to learn to shoot straight, NCOs need to learn to lead and to shoot straight, officers need to learn to plan, to lead and to shoot straight... and most important of all, the regulars need to motivate, to plan, to lead and to shoot straight.

the above is a suggestion, and improvements can definitely be made...

zh[/I]

 

[angry_one]

You're right about that.....i believe in the old saying "each cuntry gets the govt it deserves". I got a feeling that a good proportion of sinkees won't want these changes....

"Use a robot? I want my cheap china labourer. If it's a woman better still - got extra service"

"Make army regulars go on UN missions?? I don't want to die!"

"Drive small electric cars? I want my fuel-gulping BMW!"

Angry one,

you forgot one thing. CHange the behavior of sinkies. That will solve all problems you mentioned.

Once sinkie starts to wake up , PAP will no longer in power and they are unsinkified to vote the correct pple on top and policies will change as you wish.

All these problems that you stated are derived from the source of sinkie individual with their horrendous sinkie behavior and thinking.

 

[Zeitgeist]

Israel uses a system similar to this, and their officers are highly respected. It's also because their officers lead men into battle, even in LTCs. In sg, only the commandos practise this system, and they don't question their officers.

A bit of a contradiction here. A soldier who never question at all but follow with blind obedience is not an effective soldier in this day and age, especially so for an elite unit.
What was your vocation in the SAF?

 

[angry_one]

No my ideas do not target just the mega churches - it targets all extremist religious groups. There is at least one extremist Buddhist group, and there might be extremist islamic groups teaching 'jihad'. There's a big conundrum here - if the members don't want to be helped, should you leave them alone? I say we should step in anyway. Sometimes people don't even know that they are being robbed and brainwashed, but they must be helped anyway.

I know plenty of people from the 'mega churches' and their methods, and mainstream churches regard mega churches as perversions of Jesus' teachings. One example - pastors from these churches paying themselves 5-figure salaries. Their excuse? They were doctors and lawyers, and have families to feed. So this compensates for their loss of income. SOUNDS FAMILIAR??

Widening bike paths- not feasible on many footpaths when you take a closer look. There isn't enough space left for a new path in many cases, or they're blocked by trees/drains.

from the above, you are now mixing Islam with Christianity. please don't link them together when you are quoting examples. you are confusing people.

as for the mega churches, i have no problem with them if they want to build mega buildings for worshippers to use, to worship God. it's a testimony of their success in expanding God's kingdom. as long as they abide by the teaching in bible and spread God's word, they should not be prejudiced. it's just a building. how can you accomodate 10,000 in a church with 1,000 capacity? if they use it for selfish purposes, then i welcome the authorities to do something about it. if we don't have evidence for now, maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt?

how about widening the walkways to accomodate for bikes and pesdestrains? like in the parks and many europeans countries do provide bike lanes even on the streets? helps to work off that excessive char kuay teow lards?

 

[VIBGYOR]

Re: My final solution to all of sg’s problems

"Drive small electric cars? I want my fuel-gulping BMW!"

don't be biased towards electric cars...doesn't this Volt looked great??

and this green car from Opel??

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Change is inevitable as life is dynamic Bro. What is of more importance is that there is relative peace and stability with any Change and that the whole country comes out the better for it after each Change process. At the end of the day Singapore and Singaporeans need to find their own political redemption that they are reasonably comfortable with. Oh and I believe we shall see real Change after LKY finally passes on, perhaps not straight away but possibly in the next 5-10 years after that. Till then, it is all up in air really, but with this financial tsunami, internet and globalisation, well who knows?

You're right about that.....i believe in the old saying "each cuntry gets the govt it deserves". I got a feeling that a good proportion of sinkees won't want these changes....

"Use a robot? I want my cheap china labourer. If it's a woman better still - got extra service"

"Make army regulars go on UN missions?? I don't want to die!"

"Drive small electric cars? I want my fuel-gulping BMW!"