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LeeLaoPeh

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Report: Kim Jong Il Grooming Middle Son as Successor

Wednesday, May 20, 2009

SEOUL, South Korea —
North Korean leader Kim Jong Il is grooming his middle son as successor, not the youngest son as has been widely speculated, a news report said Wednesday quoting a former political aide who defected.

Kim Jong Chol is holding a secret high-level post in the North's ruling Workers' Party as part of his successor training and reports directly to the leader, Seoul's Dong-a Ilbo newspaper quoted defector Kim Duk Hong as saying.
The 29-year-old "is highly likely to take over the father's post," Kim said.
Who will eventually rule the nuclear-armed North has been the focus of intense media speculation since leader Kim, 67, reportedly suffered a stroke last summer.
Kim succeeded his father, who died in 1994, in communism's first hereditary power succession. He rules the country with absolute authority and has allowed no opposition, raising concerns about a power struggle if he dies suddenly without naming a successor.
Wednesday's report contrasts with widespread media speculation that leader Kim considers the middle son too "girlish" to become leader, and is grooming the third and youngest son, Jong Un, 26, as his successor.
Media reports have said the Swiss-educated middle son is suffering from an excess of female hormones.
Kim's eldest son, Jong Nam, 38, had long been considered the favorite to succeed his father — until he was caught trying to enter Japan on a fake passport in 2001, reportedly telling Japanese officials he wanted to visit Tokyo Disneyland.
The paper said the defector declined to reveal where he obtained the information. He was an aide to former North Korean parliamentary speaker Hwang Jang Yop, and the two defected to the South in 1997. Hwang is the highest-level Pyongyang official ever to defect to Seoul.
Seoul's Unification Ministry and the spy agency National Intelligence Service said they cannot confirm the report.
 

LeeLaoPeh

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a father works hard his wholes lifes to builds a empire for his family
then realise he sons is a girlly gay
 

huahero

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We can change or clean bad Karma. It is assumed that all beings simply desire happiness and would want to cleanse bad karma into neutral or good karma instead of vice versa.

We will use the example of Karma as a seed, which eventually comes to fruition. Depending on the seed sometimes sooner rather than later, or in some circumstances could take a long while. After the seed has been planted it needs other factors to grow; water, sunlight etc. You can think of karma in a sense; like unset Jell-O or energy soup. Good deeds, actions or intents, sometimes can influence or cleanse negative or bad Karma or possibly influence an event or outcome to become less severe, because of the positive intents or actions, which you have engaged. Actions are not necessary, sending positive energy or mediating for the benefit of all sentient beings will produce positive intent and bring good karma, which will ripen sometime in the future.

Or bad karma can be created in which a karmic debt is owed and can be closed off or cleansed immediately. A simple example in everyday living is you walk into a coffee shop with the love of your life and order 2 coffee's, you are enjoying yourselves so much, the cashier gets caught up in the energy and gives you the incorrect change. You receive extra money, as soon as you become aware of the extra money, a karmic debt has been created; now many people in our society would smile and put the free money in their pockets... this action or Karma will come back or eventually come to fruition. However, if when you realize or shortly thereafter, you simply make your way back to the cashier and explain the mistake, the Karma is cleansed and closed off, the karmic debt has been paid in full. Who knows they may even let you keep the money and give you a gift certificate! Now that's good karma!!

In Buddhist Philosophy, negative karma can be cleansed by way of meditation, repeating mantras or various ceremonies. Washing away negative karma which has been accumulating for many years or perhaps many lifetimes as well, dedicating the merit of good deeds, meditations, intentions, to the benefit of all sentient beings, creates good Karma or possibly a cleansing effect of some undesirable actions or intents.

So basically, yes bad or negative Karma can be changed or cleansed.

Can the 'Law of Karma", be avoided altogether? In Buddhism the only way to not be subject to the undeniable law of Karma is to attain enlightenment or in other words to be fully awake. Because Karma is "action", we look toward the future for the seed to germinate the plant. However, the case with an enlightened being, they do not plan for the future because they have no desire to provide security for themselves. They are fully in the now, fully in the moment; therefore, they are free from sowing further seeds of karma. Not only are they living in the present or the now, they are also fully awake in the now. When the future comes they do not see it as a result of their good deeds in the past; they see it as present all the time. And in turn do not create any further Karmic chain reactions.

Listen to Buddhist chantings it helps too, http://www.buddhanet.net/audio-chant.htm
 

leetahbar

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Report: Kim Jong Il Grooming Middle Son as Successor

Wednesday, May 20, 2009

SEOUL, South Korea —
North Korean leader Kim Jong Il is grooming his middle son as successor, not the youngest son as has been widely speculated, a news report said Wednesday quoting a former political aide who defected.

Kim Jong Chol is holding a secret high-level post in the North's ruling Workers' Party as part of his successor training and reports directly to the leader, Seoul's Dong-a Ilbo newspaper quoted defector Kim Duk Hong as saying.
The 29-year-old "is highly likely to take over the father's post," Kim said.
Who will eventually rule the nuclear-armed North has been the focus of intense media speculation since leader Kim, 67, reportedly suffered a stroke last summer.
Kim succeeded his father, who died in 1994, in communism's first hereditary power succession. He rules the country with absolute authority and has allowed no opposition, raising concerns about a power struggle if he dies suddenly without naming a successor.
Wednesday's report contrasts with widespread media speculation that leader Kim considers the middle son too "girlish" to become leader, and is grooming the third and youngest son, Jong Un, 26, as his successor.
Media reports have said the Swiss-educated middle son is suffering from an excess of female hormones.
Kim's eldest son, Jong Nam, 38, had long been considered the favorite to succeed his father — until he was caught trying to enter Japan on a fake passport in 2001, reportedly telling Japanese officials he wanted to visit Tokyo Disneyland.
The paper said the defector declined to reveal where he obtained the information. He was an aide to former North Korean parliamentary speaker Hwang Jang Yop, and the two defected to the South in 1997. Hwang is the highest-level Pyongyang official ever to defect to Seoul.
Seoul's Unification Ministry and the spy agency National Intelligence Service said they cannot confirm the report.

what about kim jong il's look alike? what would be his karma?
 

leetahbar

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answer to that question about kim jong il's lookalike's karma: strip red t-shirt, plead guilty and self-glorify in his warped URL.:biggrin:
 

commoner

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when one believes in karma, it should not befall onto others,,,,, karma belongs to oneself,,,

with regards of the 2nd son being having born with high female hormones, it is the karma of the second son, who what he did in his previous life to be born into this family and this state.... it is Kim's karma to have such a son,,,,,

2 different karmas intertwined into a single event
 

LeeLaoPeh

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mr Hua , your reply is very long so I only replys back in parts becuase my eyesights not very good now

We can change or clean bad Karma. It is assumed that all beings simply desire happiness and would want to cleanse bad karma into neutral or good karma instead of vice versa.

I thinks there is a different schools of thinking. while it can be only assumes that we all want to seeks happiness and avoids pain in life .
In hinduism , a person can attains enlightment using 2 paths mantra (meditation , do goods things , dont eats life animal) . or tantra (smokes drugs , drinks alcohols, fucks backside , eat human fleshs)


We will use the example of Karma as a seed, which eventually comes to fruition. Depending on the seed sometimes sooner rather than later, or in some circumstances could take a long while. After the seed has been planted it needs other factors to grow; water, sunlight etc. You can think of karma in a sense; like unset Jell-O or energy soup. Good deeds, actions or intents, sometimes can influence or cleanse negative or bad Karma or possibly influence an event or outcome to become less severe, because of the positive intents or actions, which you have engaged. Actions are not necessary, sending positive energy or mediating for the benefit of all sentient beings will produce positive intent and bring good karma, which will ripen sometime in the future.
Or bad karma can be created in which a karmic debt is owed and can be closed off or cleansed immediately. A simple example in everyday living is you walk into a coffee shop with the love of your life and order 2 coffee's, you are enjoying yourselves so much, the cashier gets caught up in the energy and gives you the incorrect change. You receive extra money, as soon as you become aware of the extra money, a karmic debt has been created; now many people in our society would smile and put the free money in their pockets... this action or Karma will come back or eventually come to fruition. However, if when you realize or shortly thereafter, you simply make your way back to the cashier and explain the mistake, the Karma is cleansed and closed off, the karmic debt has been paid in full. Who knows they may even let you keep the money and give you a gift certificate! Now that's good karma!!

i agrees with you here . karma is a a debts with interest like account debits and credits , prepayment and accruals in our lives
 

LeeLaoPeh

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In Buddhist Philosophy, negative karma can be cleansed by way of meditation, repeating mantras or various ceremonies. Washing away negative karma which has been accumulating for many years or perhaps many lifetimes as well, dedicating the merit of good deeds, meditations, intentions, to the benefit of all sentient beings, creates good Karma or possibly a cleansing effect of some undesirable actions or intents.

So basically, yes bad or negative Karma can be changed or cleansed.

karma is forever changing . everythings that you doing or not doing now is affects your karma. karma is a accumulated effects of what you have do to the outside world and other peoples

when you kills a fly , you take his right of lifes away . if you dont kills the fly , it may spreads diseases to your family. so the only way to wash bad karmas is to stop doing bad things and start doing good things . becuase do nothing dont mean you not build bad karna

Can the 'Law of Karma", be avoided altogether? In Buddhism the only way to not be subject to the undeniable law of Karma is to attain enlightenment or in other words to be fully awake. Because Karma is "action", we look toward the future for the seed to germinate the plant. However, the case with an enlightened being, they do not plan for the future because they have no desire to provide security for themselves. They are fully in the now, fully in the moment; therefore, they are free from sowing further seeds of karma. Not only are they living in the present or the now, they are also fully awake in the now. When the future comes they do not see it as a result of their good deeds in the past; they see it as present all the time. And in turn do not create any further Karmic chain reactions.

i says before. more than one ways to attains enlightment

Listen to Buddhist chantings it helps too, http://www.buddhanet.net/audio-chant.htm

thank you mr Hua
 

LeeLaoPeh

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when one believes in karma, it should not befall onto others,,,,, karma belongs to oneself,,,

with regards of the 2nd son being having born with high female hormones, it is the karma of the second son, who what he did in his previous life to be born into this family and this state.... it is Kim's karma to have such a son,,,,,

2 different karmas intertwined into a single event

sir , thank you very much . what you says is very truth .
hell and enlightment is relative to the person . peoples might envys a rich person but he is not happy becuase he gots no freedoms . just like kim jung il biggest son who cannot even go to tokyo disneylands
 

Sideswipe

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Buddhist is Indian God. Chinese should worship Chinese Gods, especially not that Middle-Eastern God

read 道德經, Dao De Jing too.
 

LeeLaoPeh

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whether chinese or india or ang mor all believe in kama or retributions or cuase and effects
ang mor like to externalise their gods
chinese and india like to internalise our gods
 

tonychat

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mr Hua , your reply is very long so I only replys back in parts becuase my eyesights not very good now



I thinks there is a different schools of thinking. while it can be only assumes that we all want to seeks happiness and avoids pain in life .
In hinduism , a person can attains enlightment using 2 paths mantra (meditation , do goods things , dont eats life animal) . or tantra (smokes drugs , drinks alcohols, fucks backside , eat human fleshs)

AH ha.... See?...


i agrees with you here . karma is a a debts with interest like account debits and credits , prepayment and accruals in our lives

What is the karma of the person with sinkie behavior. Isn't this person gonna accumulate tons of negative karma?
 

tonychat

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We can change or clean bad Karma. It is assumed that all beings simply desire happiness and would want to cleanse bad karma into neutral or good karma instead of vice versa.

We will use the example of Karma as a seed, which eventually comes to fruition. Depending on the seed sometimes sooner rather than later, or in some circumstances could take a long while. After the seed has been planted it needs other factors to grow; water, sunlight etc. You can think of karma in a sense; like unset Jell-O or energy soup. Good deeds, actions or intents, sometimes can influence or cleanse negative or bad Karma or possibly influence an event or outcome to become less severe, because of the positive intents or actions, which you have engaged. Actions are not necessary, sending positive energy or mediating for the benefit of all sentient beings will produce positive intent and bring good karma, which will ripen sometime in the future.

Or bad karma can be created in which a karmic debt is owed and can be closed off or cleansed immediately. A simple example in everyday living is you walk into a coffee shop with the love of your life and order 2 coffee's, you are enjoying yourselves so much, the cashier gets caught up in the energy and gives you the incorrect change. You receive extra money, as soon as you become aware of the extra money, a karmic debt has been created; now many people in our society would smile and put the free money in their pockets... this action or Karma will come back or eventually come to fruition. However, if when you realize or shortly thereafter, you simply make your way back to the cashier and explain the mistake, the Karma is cleansed and closed off, the karmic debt has been paid in full. Who knows they may even let you keep the money and give you a gift certificate! Now that's good karma!!

In Buddhist Philosophy, negative karma can be cleansed by way of meditation, repeating mantras or various ceremonies. Washing away negative karma which has been accumulating for many years or perhaps many lifetimes as well, dedicating the merit of good deeds, meditations, intentions, to the benefit of all sentient beings, creates good Karma or possibly a cleansing effect of some undesirable actions or intents.

So basically, yes bad or negative Karma can be changed or cleansed.

Can the 'Law of Karma", be avoided altogether? In Buddhism the only way to not be subject to the undeniable law of Karma is to attain enlightenment or in other words to be fully awake. Because Karma is "action", we look toward the future for the seed to germinate the plant. However, the case with an enlightened being, they do not plan for the future because they have no desire to provide security for themselves. They are fully in the now, fully in the moment; therefore, they are free from sowing further seeds of karma. Not only are they living in the present or the now, they are also fully awake in the now. When the future comes they do not see it as a result of their good deeds in the past; they see it as present all the time. And in turn do not create any further Karmic chain reactions.

Listen to Buddhist chantings it helps too, http://www.buddhanet.net/audio-chant.htm

what is the horrendous karma of a person with sinkie behavior?
 

Sideswipe

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karma, retributions or cause and effects

When you do bad things to someone, you have already sow/plant the seeds of retributions by that person to you in the future. This is cause and efforts. not really karma.
 

tonychat

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not only behaviour , you can also accumulates negative karma from the bad thing you says

Mine is the motive of reminding others of what sinkie behavior is and they will refrain of behaving like this. It is actually a meritorious deed.

I am preventing a future of sinkieland to be polluted by sinkie behavior. The daily screwing by the PAP govt is the effect of the sinkie behavior by the whole sinkie population.

I was just wondering what is the karmic effect or the causes of a person who behave in a sinkie manner.
 

LeeLaoPeh

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whether good deeds or not , up to other peoples to judges , not you says one
important parts of a living righteously is to listens to surrounding and learns from it
 

LeeLaoPeh

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Tahsar , you reads what mr Pak says or not ?
mr Pak say you SI PEH SUEH
if i si leow you will be very sueh becuase no one will takes care of you and advicing you
 
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