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Frodo

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You see your neighborhood mother dog pregnant, you believe it is God's punishment for disobedient. The mother dog has to bear the sin of a distant ancestor, oh really? You really so delusional to co-belief the ancestor of the mother dog eaten some kind of forbidden fruit in a fairytale garden:wink: You are blind, dude...

Please can you just answer the question? According to the Bible, is suffering part of God's original creation? Why do you keep dancing around the question and beating about the bush and sidetracking?
 

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How is this a church BBQ?


Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites

"They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings - Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba - died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho."

"Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31:7-18 NLT
 

drifteri

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Why should I try to discredit the Scripture? Nothing wrong with the text at all. It was a letter written by Paul to address problems faced by the church in Corinth. You discredited yourself already by failing to understand the context and to avail yourself of Bible aids.

Please tell us what are the problems by the church in Corinth. The readers here are waiting for your reply.
 

beensetfree

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Patience

Patience is not sitting still. Rather, it’s mastering your time by applying the right principles in the right way to attain a long-term desired result.
It’s moving forward steadily for as long as it takes to get where you want to go. Enduring the time between your departure and arrival requires a great deal of will.
But no matter how tedious these moments of waiting are, you have to get used to the feeling, knowing that what you’re working toward is coming your way, even though it’s not with you at the moment.

Ultimately the two hardest tests on the road to personal growth are the patience to wait for what you want and the courage not to be disappointed when it doesn’t arrive as soon as you had expected. Patience can be bitter, but the seeds you plant now will bear sweet fruit. These fruits are worth waiting for. There’s no advantage to hurrying through life and never tasting their sweetness.

Winnie-the-Pooh once said, “Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there some day.” This is the power of patience.
 

drifteri

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Freddie
Please tell us what are the problems by the church in Corinth. And why the kind of family values in Paul's letter help to solve the problems. I hope you are not another Christian coming here to make empty claims without supporting them. The readers here are waiting for your reply.
 

Frodo

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Please tell us what are the problems by the church in Corinth. The readers here are waiting for your reply.

You don't know? I'm so disappointed. Seems you really do not know much about the Bible except to cut and paste verse you don't like and don't understand. Like they said, empty vessels make the most noise.
 

drifteri

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You don't know? I'm so disappointed. Seems you really do not know much about the Bible except to cut and paste verse you don't like and don't understand. Like they said, empty vessels make the most noise.

Kenneth Freddie,
Whahahaha, even pastors don't know every thing about the bible. Non believers should feel honor you have higher expectation and standard for us...I am disappoint you dare not put forwards what you earlier said about the corin church problems for readers to scrutinize...whahhahahhaha.


There are no fewer than three versions of the story of Paul's conversion. In one, Paul's companions see a heavenly light but hear nothing (Acts 22:9). In the second, they hear a voice but see no one (Acts 9:7). In the third (Acts 26:12-14), there is no specific mention of what his companions hear or see, only that they fall to the ground along with Paul. And did Paul take Trophimus with him when he left Miletus for Jerusalem? Acts says he did (Acts 21:29), but this flatly contradicts one of the last few verses of Paul's second Epistle to Timothy, which claims that Paul had left Trophimus at Miletus because he was ill.

Paul's letters (if they are his) also contradict each other. In 1 Corinthians 3:11 Paul says the Church has no foundation other than Christ himself, but in another purported letter (Ephesians 2:20) the apostles and prophets provide the foundation, and Jesus is the cornerstone. Another example concerns the end of the world. According to different accounts, will this come soon, during a period of peace and security "like a thief in the night" (1 Thessalonians 5:2) or will it come at some later time after, following a rebellion and revelation, and other spectacular signs and wonders (2 Thessalonians 2) ?
 

drifteri

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Paul, the admitted thief

II Corinthians 11:8 Paul said: I robbed other churches in order to minister to you.
 

Frodo

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Kenneth Freddie,
Whahahaha, even pastors don't know every thing about the bible. Non believers should feel honor you have higher expectation and standard for us...I am disappoint you dare not put forwards what you earlier said about the corin church problems for readers to scrutinize...whahhahahhaha.


There are no fewer than three versions of the story of Paul's conversion. In one, Paul's companions see a heavenly light but hear nothing (Acts 22:9). In the second, they hear a voice but see no one (Acts 9:7). In the third (Acts 26:12-14), there is no specific mention of what his companions hear or see, only that they fall to the ground along with Paul. And did Paul take Trophimus with him when he left Miletus for Jerusalem? Acts says he did (Acts 21:29), but this flatly contradicts one of the last few verses of Paul's second Epistle to Timothy, which claims that Paul had left Trophimus at Miletus because he was ill.

Paul's letters (if they are his) also contradict each other. In 1 Corinthians 3:11 Paul says the Church has no foundation other than Christ himself, but in another purported letter (Ephesians 2:20) the apostles and prophets provide the foundation, and Jesus is the cornerstone. Another example concerns the end of the world. According to different accounts, will this come soon, during a period of peace and security "like a thief in the night" (1 Thessalonians 5:2) or will it come at some later time after, following a rebellion and revelation, and other spectacular signs and wonders (2 Thessalonians 2) ?

Define contradiction please.
 

drifteri

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FYI, God is NOT a tribal God. He chose Israel as the means to eventually bless all the nations of the world. God is the God of the universe. He is not confined to anyone or any nation. I'm surprised that you didn't know that.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

You are fooling people here again, my very delusional friend. Let readers judge for himself what you said contradicted Leviticus 25:44. Is a tribal God lah.
 
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beensetfree

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Where's The Beef
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Recently while making my semi-weekly purchases at my local area
Wal-Mart store, in the chaos and confusion of checking out, I
missed (and the cashier missed) a box of burgers on the bottom
of my cart.

In traveling to my car with my two overly rambunctious and hyper
children, I noticed the burgers on the bottom of the cart as I
loaded my packages wearily into the family van.

Ugh, I looked at my receipt. He didn't get the box of 32 frozen
100% beef burgers that were ten dollars.

My great summer standby for a quick meal. I was tired and I
didn't want to have to go back into the store. I could have
driven off unnoticed with a windfall of free tasty burgers that
mistakenly were missed by myself, the cashier, and the Wal-Mart
elderly person taking a break sitting at the exit, telling me to
have a nice evening.

Darn it, I couldn't do it. So yelling to my ten-year-old and my
eight-year-old who were now rough housing in the back seats to
stay put, I walked back into Wal-Mart to the cashier who had
serviced my order and said, "I don't think you got these when I
checked out." The cool dude mannerism of the clerk laughed at
me and said, "Man you came all the way back here for this, I
would have just taken off."

I explained that I really didn't want to rot in hell over a few
100% tasty beef burgers and would he kindly ring me up so I
could get back to my children in the car. The elderly Wal-Mart
senior was still at the front door and thanked me for coming
back in. She looked as tired as I was.

As I drove home, I realized that it's not likely that the mega
giant retailer Wal-Mart would have even noticed the lost
inventory of those 32 100% beef burgers. However, on that day
the transaction reflected on at least a few people a positive
light that could make a difference in perhaps the way they think
out future transactions for themselves or for others.

The young cashier behind the counter who said he would have
never come back into the store and would have just kept on
going, the senior who looked at me with a restored confidence
that maybe America wasn't going to hell this week, and the five
men in line waiting patiently as the cashier quickly rang up my
box of burgers, all of them probably muttering something about
women drivers not even getting it right at Wal-Mart with their
carts.

That day, God asked me where the beef was.

A small challenge that seemed a little bigger at the end of a
hectic, tiring day. I showed Him and returned His trial,
knowing it wasn't just about an act of honesty.

It was about a commitment to restore faith in the human element,
knowing that if we all raise the bar just a little higher for
ourselves and others with actions that are of good deeds, we'll
all live in a much better place.

That old commercial adage where the little old lady is saying,
"Where's the beef?" I paused and thought, well, for most of us,
it's right here, still in our hearts and souls, and it's what
makes this country a really great place to live. Despite all of
the reminded evil in this world, we still have opportunities to
make life really good again and again.

Those thirty-two, 100% beef burgers will taste a little better
this summer.
 

drifteri

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See! There you go again...no proof just empty claim.
Still unable to write the problems faced by corin church.
 

drifteri

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Kill Homosexuals

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
 

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