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John Tan speaks his mind

cass888

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Why is he fighting for a bunch of cowards ??

It is very narrow minded to call people who don't agree with you cowards. Minibonds brought 600 protesters. The MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan? 20. What is the difference? People care about their money. People don't care about motherhood stuff from the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan.
 

chinkangkor

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It is very narrow minded to call people who don't agree with you cowards. Minibonds brought 600 protesters. The MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan? 20. What is the difference?

So now you see how importance the right to assembly is? The 600 should thank Chee and his activists for bringing about this positive change to S'pore.
 

cleareyes

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So now you see how importance the right to assembly is? The 600 should thank Chee and his activists for bringing about this positive change to S'pore.

20 can be ignored as just plain noise and trouble making. 600 and u try to ignore that?

dun put chee's "achievements' too highly. he has yet to earn the respect of all singaporeans, all he did is earning their wits.
 

chinkangkor

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20 can be ignored as just plain noise and trouble making. 600 and u try to ignore that?

dun put chee's "achievements' too highly. he has yet to earn the respect of all singaporeans, all he did is earning their wits.

Whether it is 20 or 600, it is significant for S'pore because the case will be tested in court.
 

kuntakinte

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If you have to ask what SDP is fighting for, you are either apolitical, draped with too much pappy shit, too entrenched in pappy educational system, mainly travel for leisure, or a combination of these.

Next, if you think SDP members and its supporters are there to overthrow the government, I suggest that you get rid of that pappy shit tainted thoughts. When one has a conviction to achieve an objective, you do what you believe in. In this case and at this point in time, these people are doing what need to be done. To overthrow PAP ? perhaps, not.

Using Ghandi's civil disobedience example as a direct inference is inappropriate given the difference in time and space. But, his spirit is laudable. SDP members and their supporters have such strong conviction that they are fighting for their belief and for the betterment of future Singaporeans whether the majority or even, you, see it or not, it is not important. The importance is to bring change to the current NATO (No Action, Talk Only) PAP, what economic help package ? While they give pittance assistance, they ripped more for themselves with justifications. These ministers are winning snowballed TOTO draw prizes yearly while we have to contend with price hikes immediately after every erection..... er...oops,, election.




I know SDP members and supporters personally too. Frankly, I know them as acquaintenances but I don't understand them. When you fighting something, there must be that something to fight for. Now, what's that something?

Overthrowing government by means of protests and so-called civil disobedience? Mohandas Ghandi's civil disobedience campaign worked because he got millions in majority behind him and his campaign.

He didn't invent the cause. The people breathed the cause, and he led the fight for them, not trying to convince people to fight for him.
 

Avantas

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The PAP can't rule through fear alone. It is also smart to co-opt "credible" opposition like WP to be their subsidiary so that those who dislike them can find an outlet to vent their frustration.

When even the opposition in Parilament is controlled by PAP, what hope do we still have ?


Agree bro. This is how the PAP govt maintains the climate of fear on the populace.
 

leetahbar

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the FEAR mentality is actually conjured up by people such as sddpies.

if there were really FEAR, would u think people would still be posting here? c'mon people, look at the new age we are in now. u think it's still caveman period when "the survivor of the fittest" still applies?

just look at the brainacs whose cowardice still can rule over the cyberworld, you should know that we are now entering a different kind of mindgame.
 

cass888

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The government knows what matters and what doesn't.

Singaporeans will let the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDAILER chee soon juan and his reCHEEme and all they represent rot in jail.

When it comes to their own money, Singaporeans will not relent in getting their money back. That is why the reCHEEme gets charged again and again and again while the MAS is quick to demand that the banks make amends for any misselling of the minibonds.

PAP knows what people (hard core - usually 60% with another 15% swing vote). WP is going for the hard core 25% opposition voters, the 15% swing and trying to bite into at least 10% more of the hardcore PAP supporters. The reCHEEme can't even get any of the 15% swing voters and sometimes even lose the hardcore opposition voters.


The PAP can't rule through fear alone. It is also smart to co-opt "credible" opposition like WP to be their subsidiary so that those who dislike them can find an outlet to vent their frustration.

When even the opposition in Parilament is controlled by PAP, what hope do we still have ?
 

leetahbar

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if there were FEAR, the SDPPIES won't be protesting in the first place.

the FEAR only arises, when they realise they gotta answer to the LAW. as a last ditch, they still would wanna distort and exploit peasants' sentiments to sway to their support.

sadly and fortunately, they anticipated wrongly and always think peasants were a bunch of low mentality who could be easily manipulated like their circus of clowns.
 

leetahbar

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The government knows what matters and what doesn't.

Singaporeans will let the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDAILER chee soon juan and his reCHEEme and all they represent rot in jail.

When it comes to their own money, Singaporeans will not relent in getting their money back. That is why the reCHEEme gets charged again and again and again while the MAS is quick to demand that the banks make amends for any misselling of the minibonds.

PAP knows what people (hard core - usually 60% with another 15% swing vote). WP is going for the hard core 25% opposition voters, the 15% swing and trying to bite into at least 10% more of the hardcore PAP supporters. The reCHEEme can't even get any of the 15% swing voters and sometimes even lose the hardcore opposition voters.

let me put it into zippy one-liner:

CHEEroes are definitely not HEELOS but only ZEEROES.:p
 

methink

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if there were FEAR, the SDPPIES won't be protesting in the first place.

the FEAR only arises, when they realise they gotta answer to the LAW. as a last ditch, they still would wanna distort and exploit peasants' sentiments to sway to their support.

If there is NO fear, people will be protesting in the first place!
 

chinkangkor

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with the present method used, the present situation at hand and the lack of anyone who could break the stone, i dun see changes to take place...not for the next 5 yrs at least.

It is a long hard slog not suitable for the weak minded and faint hearted political wannabes. I salute them for their strong political beliefs and convictions.
 

leetahbar

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this is SINGAPORE not hong kong, not taiwan and definitely not malaysia or thailand.

this is our SINGAPORE. we live in peace and security. how come many choose to be ignorant about it and take it for granted?

we must really ask ourselves:

WHAT'S THE REAL MOTIVE AND HIDDEN AGENDA OF CHEE??
 

leetahbar

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is it fair that one unhappiness from a very vengeful chap be allowed to spread through the land? does that make an unhappy person happier if many are unhappy along with him??
 

chinkangkor

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this is SINGAPORE not hong kong, not taiwan and definitely not malaysia or thailand.

this is our SINGAPORE. we live in peace and security. how come many choose to be ignorant about it and take it for granted?

we must really ask ourselves:

WHAT'S THE REAL MOTIVE AND HIDDEN AGENDA OF CHEE??

Singaporeans have their own set of rights confer by the constitution. PAP should amend the constitution if it believes that civil and political rights should not be given to S'poreans.

We should ask what is your real motive and hidden agenda for smearing Chee and his activists.
 

chinkangkor

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is it fair that one unhappiness from a very vengeful chap be allowed to spread through the land? does that make an unhappy person happier if many are unhappy along with him??

Chee and his activists are happily fighting for their political beliefs and convictions. It seems that only you and your coterie are unhappy that Chee and his activists are making progress in pushing for a more open society.
 
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