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Jabs and potshots on Obama

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Alu862

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Voters are never rational. American voters especially. But after eight years, I'm sure some of them can see that the pareto optimal choice may just have to be Obama.

Unless of course, they want someone to create a law that their daughters must give birth, even if the girl was raped.
 

char_jig_kar

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You know, there's something more important than poll numbers. Poll numbers don't help you govern in a proper way, the rightful way, and it clearly doesn't give you a lot of wisdom. I mean, look at Bush. He won 2 elections, and had Karl Rove at the bean counter- but did it help Bush become a good President?

The same goes here: so what if Palin and McCain has the poll numbers now? It doesn't mean they will be good if they are elected- if most of us have to come to terms with such a consequence. That doesn't mean they are right on the environment. That doesn't mean that they are right in any assertion about any war with Iran. That doesn't mean they are right in extending the Bush tax cuts. That doesn't mean they are right in appointing more conservative judges so that society can be managed by government and special interests. That doesn't mean that they are right to isolate Russia and China just because both countries aren't democratic.

In the end, the Obama-Biden team is right about many things, and do the things that are required to repair the damage done by the Bush administration. The only question is that many heartland Americans are leery about change, and the world outside of their world, and they have many qualms about candidates talking about change and globalisation, let alone a candidate who happens to be black. But if the question is about economical security, financial security, and social security and social safety, the democrats have it right. Now their challenge is to make it palatable for all Americans.

Because in the end, McCain and Palin is more of the same, and not a change team. Why is it so? That's because their records say so.

Look. Suppose there are two football team, A and B. Team A is very good in their skill, but many of their players love to play pussies, love to get young teenagers pregnant and get away with it. Team B love to help the world, go Rwanda and help the poor there.

If I am a sports bettor, I will only care about football skills, and I will bet Team A although I hear lots of negative story on the personal lifestyle of Team A. I don't agree with their lifestyles, but I will bet for Team A.

Same with Obama vs McCain. I don't care much about their ideals. I will bet on the candidate which I think will have a high chance of winning. Which I think its McCain/ Palin ticket.

You see where I am coming now? Thats my main POV on this election. The skillful will win this election.
 
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The_Latest_H

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Look. Suppose there are two football team, A and B. Team A is very good in their skill, but many of their players love to play pussies, love to get young teenagers pregnant and get away with it. Team B love to help the world, go Rwanda and help the poor there.

If I am a sports bettor, I will only care about football skills, and I will bet Team A although I hear lots of negative story on the personal lifestyle of Team A. I don't agree with their lifestyles, but I will bet for Team A.

Same with Obama vs McCain. I don't care much about their ideals. I will bet on the candidate which I think will have a high chance of winning. Which I think its McCain/ Palin ticket.

You see where I am coming now? Thats my main POV on this election.

Winning is not the end thing, silly. Your short-termism really encapsulate your views about most things- and its the worst type, even if you've the right to believe in.

But because I believe the world deserves better, Obama has gotta to win. When you're wrong about policy, even if you are a bit more folksy, its of no point. My pocketbook is just as important as my values.

In short, if I have a wife and kids, and I have no money to feed my wife and my kids, then what's the point of just teaching values when all are starving, and my future is bleak?

Besides if you say that the best football team should win, then Real Madrid would have won every Primeria Liga title since time incarnate, and yet there are times when David defeated Goliath, and when Real Madrid was embarrassed by smaller, less glamourous teams. In short, politics is not like being in a casino. I don't gamble with people's lives with failed policies that have already put them into enough problems. When it has failed, it's time to change tack. There is not much of a choice here.

Just ask Jack Welch or any famous CEO or even any NGO boss about failed initiatives, and whether do they continue with it, when it doesn't even show positive results even after 8 years. After all, these initiatives is not R&D. They are business initiatives that can produce results after a few years, let alone 8 years and nothing.
 
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char_jig_kar

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Winning is not the end thing, silly. Your short-termism really encapsulate your views about most things- and its the worst type, even if you've the right to believe in.

But because I believe the world deserves better, Obama has gotta to win. When you're wrong about policy, even if you are a bit more folksy, its of no point. My pocketbook is just as important as my values.

In short, if I have a wife and kids, and I have no money to feed my wife and my kids, then what's the point of just teaching values when all are starving, and my future is bleak?

Besides if you say that the best football team should win, then Real Madrid would have won every Primeria Liga title since time incarnate, and yet there are times when David defeated Goliath, and when Real Madrid was embarrassed by smaller, less glamourous teams.

Yes, I agree winning is not everything. Just like Bush vs Gore, I think the world will be a better place with Gore as president then, instead of Bush.

But if I am gonna bet Bush will win, because of his skillful campaign, not because I like his ideals, don't go personal with me on issue with Bush ideals. I disagree with Bush.

Likewise, I bet on McCain/ Palin ticket, don't go personal with me because u disagree with McCain/ Palin ideals and policies. I bet on McCain/ Palin not because I looooove all of his ideals and policies. I bet on McCain/ Palin because I have a hunch, they will win this one.
 

The_Latest_H

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Yes, I agree winning is not everything. Just like Bush vs Gore, I think the world will be a better place with Gore as president then, instead of Bush.

But if I am gonna bet Bush will win, because of his skillful campaign, not because I like his ideals, don't go personal with me on issue with Bush ideals. I disagree with Bush.

Likewise, I bet on McCain/ Palin ticket, don't go personal with me because u disagree with McCain/ Palin ideals and policies. I bet on McCain/ Palin not because I looooove all of his ideals and policies. I bet on McCain/ Palin because I have a hunch, they will win this one.

Well sadly for you, I'm not in a casino, and I don't believe politics should be treated as a roulette game.
 
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Alu862

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Voters are only swayed by emotions that's it. Some are swayed by policies. those who are win make the right choice--McCain or Obama. Those who are the back yard of America, who shoot animals and have women who give birth like rabits will follow McCain and Palin.
 

char_jig_kar

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Voters are only swayed by emotions that's it. Some are swayed by policies. those who are win make the right choice--McCain or Obama. Those who are the back yard of America, who shoot animals and have women who give birth like rabits will follow McCain and Palin.

A message with sexist overtone in it.
 

char_jig_kar

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Then you prefer to have babies with no real fathers and girls having the trauma of carrying a child which she isn't ready for?

Yes. But I would not wanna impose my belief or decision on other people. Different people has different backgrounds and belief system.
 
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