Serious Halimah Yacob, the perfect example of why S’pore is doomed

[ckmpd]

People die every day. Do you blame God for not saving them from death's door? What more a mere mortal. Things are the way they are because they are the way they are. Count your blessings! Don't listen to these opposition supporters, full of hot air when exposed smell like warm fart.

The three criteria needed to be Elected President are:
1. Obedient dog
2. Obedient dog
3. Obedient dog.

SR Nathan and Tony Tan excelled in the three criteria

 

[Papsmearer]

" Her father was a Muslim Indian working as a jagar (watchman) and her Malay mother was a food seller."

I refer to the above sentence which caught my eye.

If this is true, doesn't the fact that her father is an Indian make her an Indian rather than a Malay.

I thought that the next elected President is reserved for the Malay race.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

You raised a very good point. U should start a thread on it. Her father's name has been assidously missing in the press. No one knows who he is. On the other hand, everyone knows her mother, who was malay muslim. Most telling in that National Newspapers in India identify Halimah Yacob as Indian. Yet another example of dishonesty on the part of the PAP and Halimah Yacob.

Indian-origin politician Halimah Yacob (58) is set to become the first woman Speaker of Singapore’s Parliament next week replacing Michael Palmer, who was forced to quit over his extra-marital affair.

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Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on Tuesday said he would nominate Ms. Halimah as the next Speaker when the House sits on January 14, 2014.
Ms. Halimah, a former labour lawyer, is a Member of Parliament from the ruling People’s Action Party (PAP) and has extensive experience in the labour movement, social work and pre-school education. She would be resigning as Minister of State (MOS) at the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports on January 13 as office holders cannot be elected Speaker, said Mr. Lee in a statement.
The Speaker’s post fell vacant when Mr. Palmer, also a PAP MP, resigned last month for his involvement in an extra-marital affair. Ms. Halimah would be confirmed as Speaker as PAP has an absolute majority in the 99-member house. Mr. Lee said he has briefed PAP MPs and received their full support on his intention to nominate Ms. Halimah to the position.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...apores-first-woman-speaker/article4287674.ece

 

[Papsmearer]

The three criteria needed to be Elected President are:
1. Obedient dog
2. Obedient dog
3. Obedient dog.

SR Nathan and Tony Tan excelled in the three criteria

Tony Tan is not an obedient dog lah. he is better then that. He is a relative.

 

[ckmpd]

You raised a very good point. U should start a thread on it. Her father's name has been assidously missing in the press. No one knows who he is. On the other hand, everyone knows her mother, who was malay muslim. Most telling in that National Newspapers in India identify Halimah Yacob as Indian. Yet another example of dishonesty on the part of the PAP and Halimah Yacob.

Indian-origin politician Halimah Yacob (58) is set to become the first woman Speaker of Singapore’s Parliament next week replacing Michael Palmer, who was forced to quit over his extra-marital affair.

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Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on Tuesday said he would nominate Ms. Halimah as the next Speaker when the House sits on January 14, 2014.
Ms. Halimah, a former labour lawyer, is a Member of Parliament from the ruling People’s Action Party (PAP) and has extensive experience in the labour movement, social work and pre-school education. She would be resigning as Minister of State (MOS) at the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports on January 13 as office holders cannot be elected Speaker, said Mr. Lee in a statement.
The Speaker’s post fell vacant when Mr. Palmer, also a PAP MP, resigned last month for his involvement in an extra-marital affair. Ms. Halimah would be confirmed as Speaker as PAP has an absolute majority in the 99-member house. Mr. Lee said he has briefed PAP MPs and received their full support on his intention to nominate Ms. Halimah to the position.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...apores-first-woman-speaker/article4287674.ece

If her father is Indian Muslim, then Halimah is Indian and not Malay.

Let pap nominate and endorse her. That will call for a challenge to her eligibility.

If she is an Indian Muslim, then PAP will have problems finding a pure candidate. Tarmuggi and Yaacob are not truly pure too

 

[ckmpd]

Tony Tan is not an obedient dog lah. he is better then that. He is a relative.

Good point. Tony Tan is doubly qualified as he is a related obedient dog

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

" Her father was a Muslim Indian working as a jagar (watchman) and her Malay mother was a food seller."

I refer to the above sentence which caught my eye.

If this is true, doesn't the fact that her father is an Indian make her an Indian rather than a Malay.

I thought that the next elected President is reserved for the Malay race.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Just In = K C is embaressed now. Just call urgent meeting

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/201...an-slip-of-mdm-president-is-not-funny-at-all/

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

[video=youtube_share;4h5f6llSwn8]https://youtu.be/4h5f6llSwn8[/video]

 

[zhihau]

Just In = K C is embaressed now. Just call urgent meeting

Bwahahahahahahaaa... it's an honest mistake... let's move on :p:p:p

 

[Satyr]

Bwahahahahahahaaa... it's an honest mistake... let's move on :p:p:p

HY is the perfect example of how to be successful in Singapore if you are not a natural aristocrat.
In truth how many of us here fight for our beliefs ? We usually compromise right ? Then we rubbish the likes of CSJ and question their motives. What we want is money and comfort. HY is neither lazy nor stupid. She is canny enough to know how to be liked by the right people. I put SRN in that category.
It really does not matter who is President. Might as well be her.

 

[zhihau]

Might as well be her.

I wouldn't go with a rubber stamp. I'm keeping my fingers crossed to see if there are any minority candidates willing to stand up against the tyranny. Fuck! I would have voted for TCB again if there isn't this stupid ruling that the next President must be from the minority race.

 

[gatehousethetinkertailor]

You raised a very good point. U should start a thread on it. Her father's name has been assidously missing in the press. No one knows who he is. On the other hand, everyone knows her mother, who was malay muslim. Most telling in that National Newspapers in India identify Halimah Yacob as Indian. Yet another example of dishonesty on the part of the PAP and Halimah Yacob.

Indian-origin politician Halimah Yacob (58) is set to become the first woman Speaker of Singapore’s Parliament next week replacing Michael Palmer, who was forced to quit over his extra-marital affair.

×​

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on Tuesday said he would nominate Ms. Halimah as the next Speaker when the House sits on January 14, 2014.
Ms. Halimah, a former labour lawyer, is a Member of Parliament from the ruling People’s Action Party (PAP) and has extensive experience in the labour movement, social work and pre-school education. She would be resigning as Minister of State (MOS) at the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports on January 13 as office holders cannot be elected Speaker, said Mr. Lee in a statement.
The Speaker’s post fell vacant when Mr. Palmer, also a PAP MP, resigned last month for his involvement in an extra-marital affair. Ms. Halimah would be confirmed as Speaker as PAP has an absolute majority in the 99-member house. Mr. Lee said he has briefed PAP MPs and received their full support on his intention to nominate Ms. Halimah to the position.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...apores-first-woman-speaker/article4287674.ece

One of the other forums has already mentioned this: https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/a...im-what-if-pe-committee-decides-she-not-malay

"I just found out that Madam Halimah had an Indian-Muslim father. But everyone knows her as Malay, she's been active in the Malay community, speaks Malay, is a Muslim. Imagine the uproar if she were to run for President and this "Community Committee" declares that she ISN'T Malay. But imagine the confusion if they declare she IS (since she is by parentage Indian-Muslim). And why should it even matter? She has served Singapore so well. Debates on racial purity and categorisation are both pointless and dangerous. This is the kind of racial politics that we are headed for."


As some of you may be aware, the local singkies with mixed Indian/Malay heritage are also pejoratively referred to as DKK (used to refer to those of Indian descent that have adapted and integrated wholly into Malay culture, food, customs, language).

Interestingly also her husband is an Alhabshee so he could be of Arab Yemeni descent making her kids of Arab descent rather than Malay - depending on his Race identifier - would not be surprised if they have 'Arab" as race on their IDs (if indeed her husband is the same as the local Hadramuti Arabs). The Yemeni Arabs from Hadramut tend to be of classic Arab features or darker features because of the proximity to Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia across the Gulf of Aden. There was some discussion in Malaysia a while back:

http://malaysianunplug.blogspot.sg/2008/01/who-is-senator-datuk-syed-ali-alhabshee.html

https://malaysianunplug.blogspot.sg/2010/05/ethiopian-arab-umno-datuk-syed-ali.html

 

[scroobal]

DKK influence has been dominant across the Malay community for decades. She will be given the nod. Zainul Abideen is also one. The PAP will always gets what it wants. If she was from SDP, the whole things changes.

ps. I have seen NRICs where the father is Indian Muslim married to a Malay but the kids' race is shown as Javanese, Boyanese etc

One of the other forums already mentioned this: https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/a...im-what-if-pe-committee-decides-she-not-malay

"I just found out that Madam Halimah had an Indian-Muslim father. But everyone knows her as Malay, she's been active in the Malay community, speaks Malay, is a Muslim. Imagine the uproar if she were to run for President and this "Community Committee" declares that she ISN'T Malay. But imagine the confusion if they declare she IS (since she is by parentage Indian-Muslim). And why should it even matter? She has served Singapore so well. Debates on racial purity and categorisation are both pointless and dangerous. This is the kind of racial politics that we are headed for."


As some of you may be aware, these types are also known as DKK (a derogatory term used by the Malay to refer to those of Indian descent that have adapted and integrated wholly into Malay culture, food, customs, language). Her husband is an Alhabshee so he could be of Arab Yemeni descent making her kids of Arab descent rather than Malay - would not be surprised if they have 'Arab" as race on their IDs (if indeed it is the same as the local Hadramuti Arabs).

 

[scroobal]

Yes, the fear element.

If he did not turn up for the "interview", he would have been arrested, right? So what is the difference? U either walk yourself in or get dragged in handcuffs, end of the day, its still feels like an arrest. Its like saying there is no censorship in singapore because Shit Times watch what they say and write and don't step on any toes. Self censorship is still censorship. Same in this case with Tharm.

 

[shiokalingam]

DKK influence has been dominant across the Malay community for decades. She will be given the nod. Zainul Abideen is also one. The PAP will always gets what it wants. If she was from SDP, the whole things changes.

ps. I have seen NRICs where the father is Indian Muslim married to a Malay but the kids' race is shown as Javanese, Boyanese etc

By same logic is minister Vivien Bala a Tamil indian or chinese ?

 

[scroobal]

If PAP wants to nominate him, he can be anything they chose him to be. For argument sake, if they could not find a single Malay that suits their needs, they will change the rules to state the Majority Chinese candidate after 2 or 3 rounds must be filled by a minority candidate of any race.

Look at Abdullah Tarmugi, former cabinet Minister who had responsibility for Malays and was also speaker of Parliament. His mother is a full blooded Chinese and his wife is also a full blooded Chinese and his kids are therefore more Chinese than Malays.

By same logic is minister Vivien Bala a Tamil indian or chinese ?

 

[johnny333]

If LHL wants to nominate a monkey as the next president what can anyone do, after all he is the son of LKY

A monkey would be cheaper because it will work for peanuts

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

If PAP wants to nominate him, he can be anything they chose him to be. For argument sake, if they could not find a single Malay that suits their needs, they will change the rules to state the Majority Chinese candidate after 2 or 3 rounds must be filled by a minority candidate of any race.

Look at Abdullah Tarmugi, former cabinet Minister who had responsibility for Malays and was also speaker of Parliament. His mother is a full blooded Chinese and his wife is also a full blooded Chinese and his kids are therefore more Chinese than Malays.

ICA - registry of birth should clarify these. asap. highly confuseing

 

[scroobal]

They are forming PE committees just on this for the very reason that ICA cannot do it based on what they have been doing in the past. ICA also relaxed the rules in recent years after some mothers married to Ang Mos, foreigners made some noise.

ICA - registry of birth should clarify these. asap. highly confuseing

 

[scroobal]

As you can see in the past, the choice of putting mother's or father's ethnicity was allowed. Most people chose father was it was the common practice then. But when it came to Malays and Indian Muslims it became obvious which race they preferred. Free education, access to scholarships etc was a driving factor.


https://www.ica.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?nid=12443

Greater Flexibility with Implementation of Double-Barrelled Race Option from 1 January 2011

29-Dec-2010 filed under Public Advisory
With effect from 1 January 2011, the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) will implement the registration of double-barrelled race options for Singaporean children born to parents of different races.

2. This change, first announced in Parliament on 12 January 2010, gives parents who are of different races further flexibility and choice to decide how their child’s race should be recorded. Couples of inter-ethnic marriages now have the additional option to reflect both their races for their child as a double-barrelled race. This is on top of the existing options of choosing only one of the two different races – either that of the father or the mother – for their child. For example, if one parent is “Chinese” and the other is “Indian”, the child’s race may be recorded as “Chinese”, “Indian”, “Chinese-Indian”, or “Indian-Chinese”. The registration of the double-barrelled race will be limited to only two components, i.e. one hyphenation.

3. For relevant Government policies, such as the initial assignment to a mother-tongue language class in schools and the HDB’s Ethnic Integration Policy, the first component of a double-barrelled race will be used. There will not be any advantage in terms of policy considerations for those who register either a double-barrelled or a singular race. For the presentation of statistics, the current way of presenting the published race statistics will be maintained and will be based on the first component of the double-barrelled race.

4. Details on the policy and registration procedures can be found on ICA’s website at www.ica.gov.sg.

5. This added flexibility of registering a double-barrelled race is in line with the Government’s continual review of its policies in recognition of evolving societal changes. In this instance, we recognise that with the increasing number of inter-ethnic marriages in Singapore; the diversity of Singapore’s racial demographics has accordingly also increased.