Failure of PAP's posr GE Engagement Strategy

[aurvandil]

I was waiting for a Minister to make a candid comment on the state of the National CONverstation before making a post to sum up my assessment of PAP's post GE Engagement Strategy.

By now, the empirical evidence appears overwhelming.

Immediately after GE 2011, there appeared to be an urgency on the part of the PAP to remake their image and win back lost votes. Expectations were high that after the apology and the tears, the PAP had learnt their lesson and would make a determined attempt to turn things around.

These expectations started to sag as the days turned to weeks and the weeks turned to months.

The PAP launched a number of initiatives which, if properly carried out, could have turned things around. Unfortunately the execution of the initiatives can only be described as an abject failure.

For example, they kicked off the reforms with a big bang in the form of salary reform. Hundreds of thousands of consulting dollars later, we are left with a situation where the Ministers are still paid 4 to 5 times more than other world leaders of developed, largely corruption free countries.

We were told the housing problem would be fixed. Half a billion dollars in new collected levies later, the problem is as big as ever with housing prices scaling new heights.

Transport, healthcare and even education ... they tried it all. The policy initiatives they introduced can best be described as half-hearted, piecemeal policies of plucking whatever low lying easy fruit they could find. While in the past this might have worked, the PAP have found in the internet a fierce and relentless watchdog. The short cuts, cheap tricks and other stunts were exposed for all to see.

The final straw has to be the National CONversation.Unveiled with great fanfare, it soon started to sink when it was revealed with video/photographic evidence that it was more of a PAP CONversation than a National CONversation. We now have a PAP Minister explaining to us that the National CONversation is not to talk about bread-and-butter issues. What pray tell should we then talk about?

If anybody reading this can, please post a reply on a PAP initative which was well received and can be called an unqualified success.

The wheels of time turn inevitably on and 2016 draws closer day by day ...

http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapor...-to-be-extended-meet—the—people-session-grace

SINGAPORE: The Singapore Conversation is not meant to be an extended Meet—the—People Session. Ms Grace Fu, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office, said this to reporters on the sidelines of a community event, in response to a question on whether the national dialogue has turned out the way she had expected.

She said: "I hope there’s a platform where we can hear a variety of views. There may be a minority who are treating it as a platform to air bread—and—butter issues, but I believe this platform is necessary.

"I believe once Singaporeans have participated in it multiple times, they would understand its aim better and set their sights further to talk about what they hope for Singapore to become 20 years from now."

Ms Fu said many Singaporeans recognise that economic growth and jobs are important. But they also want attention paid to non—economic areas like quality of life, housing and national identity.

On those allowed to work in Singapore, they hope the government can monitor the quality and the numbers.

Some 1,000 Yuhua residents participated in a charity walk on Sunday morning, and donated 4,000 bags of rice to the needy. The rice will be distributed to senior citizens and low—income families from January.

 

[wMulew]

Fucking retard doesn't understand the meaning of national conversation. It is not suppose to be well recieved, it's an exercise to get feedback. If all they listen to are the good stuff, than there is no point to it.

This is an example
http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/10/12/first-hand-acccount-population-dialogue-session-with-ministers/

The complain in the article is about this being a PR exercise. The fact this is a conversation. The government have a duty to explain why policies are the way they are to people who are unhappy. The fact that so many unhappy voices appeared in some of these conversation proves the government is doing what they set out to do and not an exercise in self praise.

As for the opposition.

They were invited, didn't attend. No one can fault the government for trying to engage.

 

[mojito]

The complain in the article is about this being a PR exercise. The fact this is a conversation. The government have a duty to explain why policies are the way they are to people who are unhappy. The fact that so many unhappy voices appeared in some of these conversation proves the government is doing what they set out to do and not an exercise in self praise.

Well said! The lords descend upon the hovels to explain why peasants need to be whipped. Peasants can moan and groan as much as they want on live television, but whipped they must be. Indeed, naive peasants should not confuse consultation for democracy.

 

[SgParent]

As for the opposition.

They were invited, didn't attend. No one can fault the government for trying to engage.

Disagree. If you know it's a wayang, a circus, a scam, would you still participate even if the invitation comes with red carpet?

 

[JesseVENTURA]

Engagement initiatives?

It will be better off for PAP to see how inflation is to be lowered. Cannot breath now.

 

[bertaka]

It has been more than a year since the GE2011. What has changed?

 

[wMulew]

It has been more than a year since the GE2011. What has changed?

Voters demand less FT
Reduced FT quota

Voter demand reduce ministerial salary
Salary reduced

Voters demand increase healthcare
Health budget doubled

Voters demand government listen to them
Starts National Conversation

The government have change much since GE2011. It's the idiotic mindset of the opposition moron brigade that have not changed

 

[aurvandil]

Disappointed that no one has taken the challenge of posting up a PAP initiative which was well received and can be called an unqualified success.

If anybody reading this can, please post a reply on a PAP initative which was well received and can be called an unqualified success.

 

[cleareyes]

The government have change much since GE2011. It's the idiotic mindset of the opposition moron brigade that have not changed

There is this saying in legal practise: Justice must not only be served, but must be seen to be served.

If there are changes made and yet changes are not felt by the general public, then what charnges are there?

You can roll out all the policies all you want but if the policies are still unable to meet the needs of the general public and the damage seems to be unable to be repaired and yet repair has been made, perhaps its time to make a major overhual and not just mini-steps just for the sake of doing things.

 

[mojito]

There is this saying in legal practise: Justice must not only be served, but must be seen to be served.

If there are changes made and yet changes are not felt by the general public, then what charnges are there?

You can roll out all the policies all you want but if the policies are still unable to meet the needs of the general public and the damage seems to be unable to be repaired and yet repair has been made, perhaps its time to make a major overhual and not just mini-steps just for the sake of doing things.

I think you should examine your assumptions and make feasible plans before deciding to rearrange all the pipes in your home. Of course the cosmetic changes you are welcome to suggest changes, but individual tastes do differ. You've got to have a stable of smart salesmen to move old stock.

 

[watchman8]

Pappies new strategy is not to improve public policies, but to release CSJ the Krakan. That alone will be enough to shift 10% to the pappies.

 

[wMulew]

Disappointed that no one has taken the challenge of posting up a PAP initiative which was well received and can be called an unqualified success.

Budget 2012
Not only does it shut up the critics, opposition WP raise their hand in full support.

 

[oppoibchief]

it has been more than a year since the ge2011. What has changed?

nothing at all. Useless pap!

 

[Cruxx]

Budget 2012
Not only does it shut up the critics, opposition WP raise their hand in full support.

There are opposition MPs in the Singapore parliament?

 

[SgParent]

Voters demand less FT
Reduced FT quota

Are you embarrassingly stupid or what? Voters demand less foreigners, not reduced quota.

White Scums only can or dare to show application rejection increased

Foreign population continues to increase unabatedly after GE 2011
http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/08/2...ntinues-to-increase-unabatedly-after-ge-2011/

Voter demand reduce ministerial salary
Salary reduced

After jacking up the salary several times now only reduced a bit. Sincere or not?

Just like NTUC. Jacked up price by $2 each time for 4, 5 rounds then advertise got offer $1

Voters demand increase healthcare
Health budget doubled

Budget up 10 thousand times but how much ended up in their lackeys' pocket, how much gone into reducing the medical cost for the needy?

Just go and check if your regular medication from Polyclinic is halves or not, because the Budget is doubled

Voters demand government listen to them
Starts National Conversation

OH MAN. Where do I start

You actually quoted NC to show the White Scums are listening?

National conversation: How many PAP/YPAP/PA/RC/NTUC member in the audience?
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread....ny-PAP-YPAP-PA-RC-NTUC-member-in-the-audience

 

[SgParent]

There are opposition MPs in the Singapore parliament?

Hint: Count the number of wayangs from the White Scums post GE2011 and in all the decades before that.

And imagine what could have been if they lost their 2/3 majority

 

[HorGauGan]

if those dogs can listen, u think bto still so expensive and they still draw million dollar salaries??????

 

[winnipegjets]

Fucking retard doesn't understand the meaning of national conversation. It is not suppose to be well recieved, it's an exercise to get feedback. If all they listen to are the good stuff, than there is no point to it.

The government have a duty to explain why policies are the way they are to people who are unhappy. The fact that so many unhappy voices appeared in some of these conversation proves the government is doing what they set out to do and not an exercise in self praise.

The PAP government has been explaining its policies for ages. We don't want to listen to the same old crap. We want them to listen to us and do what we want. If the PAP has no intention to listen to the electorate, then it should save the money instead.