I do not know what he is whining about... a big "sour grapes"..like he would have been. should have been & would be a MP...oh gourd!
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Dengue Epidemic Out of Control As NEA Focusses on Fixing WP!
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I do not know what he is whining about... a big "sour grapes"..like he would have been. should have been & would be a MP...oh gourd!
Goh Meng Seng made a huge tactical error in GE2011.
He should have concentrated all his efforts on one GRC, probably Tampines, which had Mah Bow Tan as the lead minister there. He was hugely unpopular due to his HDB policies. If NSP had won Tampines, the PAP would not have had the chance to sideline Mah Bow Tan, which effectively puts the whole of Tampines outside the line of fire.
Goh Meng Seng chose to spread his resources thinly and focus on CCK, Tampines and Marine Parade. If he had just focused on Tampines and fielded a team which included himself, Nicole Seah, Hazel Poa and her husband (or Jeannette Chong/Steve Chia)+ one minority candidate, they would have had a good chance of winning. Goh's team that comprised no one worthy of note managed to get more than 40% of the votes, so if he had fielded a strong team there, they could have won.
WP on the other hand went for broke in Aljunied and it paid off. George Yeo was a far more difficult opponent than Mah Bow Tan, as he was popular and wasn't seen to have screwed up big time. This was NSP's huge mistake and that was why Goh Meng Seng had no choice but to resign. His career as a politician is now in tatters.
we pay our ministers millions and yet they cannot solve this pandemic problem..
There are far more serious reason behind this pandemic problems. The influx of foreigners and huge populations. It will be more obvious if SARs kick in again. Singapore just do not have the resources to contain many problems if our population kept increasing blindly. Singapore used to be a cohesive country where every Singaporeans know how to co-operate and unit together like the SARs day. However, I can't say the same will happen with 40% foreigners bringing in with bad culture and habbits and thinking this place is phillipine, india or china's slum village. The same problems has already occurred by SMRT, unable to cope with load and constant tracks and cable problems. Nobody can be certain SMRT will be as efficient as before. Everyone just have to watch how all these can be contained or may even force govt to come up with another unconstitutional laws to solve the problems - as if Singaporeans are the cause of it.
And who brought in all these foreigners in the first place??
More Obfuscation from NEA
Latest from the NEA website
- no date
- not attribution to an individual ( scared to be named in case want to buy $10 million property at soft launch)
- long winded, confusing
- no indication what the AHPETC did wrong or breached
- keeping harping on what the hawker association and the PAP MP wants
- NEA can stick with the hawkers but it does mean they are right.
Petty politicking. A TC has to be responsible for its residents. It cannot hand over the purse strings to a few clowns and a PAP MP just because they want to have mangoes to go with their chicken rice.
News Releases
NEA Releases Documents in AHPETC Case
1 In response to calls by the public for more information, the National Environment Agency (NEA) is releasing the following three documents:
• 19 February 2013: Quotation by Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC) contractor, ATL Maintenance Pte Ltd for market stalls high rise cleaning at Block 538 Bedok North Street 3. The quotation was addressed to the Hawkers Association representative.
• 08 May 2013: Letters from Secretary of Block 511 Hawkers Association Mr Chan Kheng Heng to MP Mr Muhd Faisal Abd Manap, and from MP Faisal to the AHPETC, both appealing for AHPETC to assist with the proper and complete cleaning of the hawker centre in the interest of the public and the hawkers. Letters provided to NEA by Mr Chan.
• 03 June 2013: Petition letters by the hawkers of both Blocks 511 and 538 informing the media of their plight.
2 Taken together, the documents show that the hawkers of Block 538 of Bedok North Street 3 had expected the hawker centre to be cleaned as per normal during the spring cleaning exercise in March 2013. This was why they had made arrangements for the period including putting up canvas as indicated in the email our officer sent on 7 February 2013 to AHPETC.
3 According to AHPETC, their contract with ATL Maintenance Pte Ltd (ATL), included cleaning of the entire premises. However, contrary to this, the quotation that ATL submitted to the hawkers of Block 538 shows that the contractor wanted the hawkers to separately pay them for both the scaffolding and cleaning of the high areas. This is work which clearly falls within the responsibility of the town council itself. AHPETC says that the hawkers must have asked for this quotation themselves but the hawkers have said that this is not the case.
4 The appeal letter written by MP Md Faisal Abd Manap on behalf of the hawkers of Block 511 and addressed to AHPETC, confirms the seriousness and validity with which the MP treated the hawkers’ appeal against the AHPETC’s requirement for extra charges to be borne by the hawkers if the high areas are to be cleaned. Md Faisal is not just the local MP, he is an elected member of the AHPETC.
5 Petition letters submitted to the media on 3 June 2013 by the hawkers of Blocks 511 and 538 reflect the consistent position taken by the hawkers throughout this incident. Consequently, NEA stands by the hawkers’ accounts of what actually transpired.
6 NEA and its officers are civil servants who are duty bound to protect the safety of the public through ensuring high standards of hygiene. It therefore rejects allegations that any of its actions have been politically motivated.
Latest from the NEA website
- no date
- not attribution to an individual ( scared to be named in case want to buy $10 million property at soft launch)
- long winded, confusing
- no indication what the AHPETC did wrong or breached
- keeping harping on what the hawker association and the PAP MP wants
- NEA can stick with the hawkers but it does mean they are right.
Petty politicking. A TC has to be responsible for its residents. It cannot hand over the purse strings to a few clowns and a PAP MP just because they want to have mangoes to go with their chicken rice.
News Releases
NEA Releases Documents in AHPETC Case
1 In response to calls by the public for more information, the National Environment Agency (NEA) is releasing the following three documents:
• 19 February 2013: Quotation by Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC) contractor, ATL Maintenance Pte Ltd for market stalls high rise cleaning at Block 538 Bedok North Street 3. The quotation was addressed to the Hawkers Association representative.
• 08 May 2013: Letters from Secretary of Block 511 Hawkers Association Mr Chan Kheng Heng to MP Mr Muhd Faisal Abd Manap, and from MP Faisal to the AHPETC, both appealing for AHPETC to assist with the proper and complete cleaning of the hawker centre in the interest of the public and the hawkers. Letters provided to NEA by Mr Chan.
• 03 June 2013: Petition letters by the hawkers of both Blocks 511 and 538 informing the media of their plight.
2 Taken together, the documents show that the hawkers of Block 538 of Bedok North Street 3 had expected the hawker centre to be cleaned as per normal during the spring cleaning exercise in March 2013. This was why they had made arrangements for the period including putting up canvas as indicated in the email our officer sent on 7 February 2013 to AHPETC.
3 According to AHPETC, their contract with ATL Maintenance Pte Ltd (ATL), included cleaning of the entire premises. However, contrary to this, the quotation that ATL submitted to the hawkers of Block 538 shows that the contractor wanted the hawkers to separately pay them for both the scaffolding and cleaning of the high areas. This is work which clearly falls within the responsibility of the town council itself. AHPETC says that the hawkers must have asked for this quotation themselves but the hawkers have said that this is not the case.
4 The appeal letter written by MP Md Faisal Abd Manap on behalf of the hawkers of Block 511 and addressed to AHPETC, confirms the seriousness and validity with which the MP treated the hawkers’ appeal against the AHPETC’s requirement for extra charges to be borne by the hawkers if the high areas are to be cleaned. Md Faisal is not just the local MP, he is an elected member of the AHPETC.
5 Petition letters submitted to the media on 3 June 2013 by the hawkers of Blocks 511 and 538 reflect the consistent position taken by the hawkers throughout this incident. Consequently, NEA stands by the hawkers’ accounts of what actually transpired.
6 NEA and its officers are civil servants who are duty bound to protect the safety of the public through ensuring high standards of hygiene. It therefore rejects allegations that any of its actions have been politically motivated.
Re: More Obfuscation from NEA
Even this is wrong.
- firstly they are a stat board and not part of the civil service. They are however a public body and are public servants but not civil servants. They are not bound by the IM like civil servants. This is a material error. Shows how incompetent and ignorant they are
- so far since this episode erupted, they have shown to be parochial, bias, never showed any ability to facilitate, mediate or act as an impartial referee between 2 parties.
- they have avoided answering materials questions and only respond when WP releases or addresses a material point
- they kept quiet about the email that they themselves sent to AHPETC for a week until Pritam revealed its existence
- the fact that they do not want to put their names down shows how insecure they are.
They can suck my dick if they think they are helping the public.
Even this is wrong.
- firstly they are a stat board and not part of the civil service. They are however a public body and are public servants but not civil servants. They are not bound by the IM like civil servants. This is a material error. Shows how incompetent and ignorant they are
- so far since this episode erupted, they have shown to be parochial, bias, never showed any ability to facilitate, mediate or act as an impartial referee between 2 parties.
- they have avoided answering materials questions and only respond when WP releases or addresses a material point
- they kept quiet about the email that they themselves sent to AHPETC for a week until Pritam revealed its existence
- the fact that they do not want to put their names down shows how insecure they are.
They can suck my dick if they think they are helping the public.
[h=2]Dengue cases hit 9,000![/h]
June 8th, 2013 |
Author: Editorial
More than 400 new cases of dengue were reported in
Singapore this week, bringing the total number to over 9,000 for this year. So
far, 1 person has died.
3 weeks ago (May 17), the total number of dengue cases was just 7,000.
For the whole year in 2011 and 2012, the number of cases were 5,330 and 4,632
respectively.
Five new dengue clusters have also been identified in Geylang, where more
than 30 people have fallen ill. Over the past four days, seven dengue cases were
reported at Lorong 9 to Lorong 21 in Geylang.
Shopowners in the area have been busy cleaning up drains and ditches to
prevent mosquito breeding.
According to NEA [Link], a dengue cluster is
formed when 2 or more dengue cases occur within 14 days and the homes of the
dengue victims are within the distance of 150m.
There are 3 alert levels. It indicates the severity of a dengue cluster. Each
alert level is associated with a list of preventive actions that the public can take to protect
against dengue:
Definition Alert Level High-risk area with 10 or more cases Red High-risk area with less than 10 cases Yellow No new cases, under surveillance for the next 21
daysGreen
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As at yesterday (7 Jun), there are 52 dengue clusters in Red and Yellow Alert
Levels:
2nd death Liao!! No 3 coming soon. NEA still wasting time fighting with WPS over cleaning!!
Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
The ongoing dispute over hawker centre cleaning is a "completely unnecessary distraction" caused by a Workers' Party-run town council and its managing agent, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Vivian Balakrishnan said on Sunday.
"All town councils have always done routine spring-cleaning of hawker centres. There is no excuse for the Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council to delay the current cleaning programme," he said in a strongly-worded media statement.
"The safety of the public must remain our paramount concern."
The National Environment Agency's (NEA) civil servants, he added, are "duty bound to protect public hygiene and to ensure that hawkers are treated fairly".
"It is arrogant and wrong of (AHPETC chairman) Ms Sylvia Lim to make a political attack on NEA officers for simply doing their duty and for protecting the hawkers. I ask AHPETC to cooperate with NEA, consult closely with the hawkers and fulfill its obligations."
On Friday, Ms Lim had said the NEA was "politically motivated" to tarnish her town council's image.
The dispute centres around hawkers at two Bedok markets claiming that the AHPETC told them they would have to pay extra for scaffolding to be erected for scheduled clean-ups, though they never had to previously.
In his statement, Dr Balakrishnan also called the hawkers "honest, hardworking people just trying to make a living".
There was no reason to charge them more for cleaning the ceiling, he said, and no reason to disrupt their business.
He added: "The hawkers have been consistent and truthful throughout this entire episode. Either (AHPETC vice-chairman) Mr Pritam Singh or the hawkers are telling the truth. It is obvious that the hawkers are speaking the truth."
The ongoing dispute over hawker centre cleaning is a "completely unnecessary distraction" caused by a Workers' Party-run town council and its managing agent, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Vivian Balakrishnan said on Sunday.
"All town councils have always done routine spring-cleaning of hawker centres. There is no excuse for the Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council to delay the current cleaning programme," he said in a strongly-worded media statement.
"The safety of the public must remain our paramount concern."
The National Environment Agency's (NEA) civil servants, he added, are "duty bound to protect public hygiene and to ensure that hawkers are treated fairly".
"It is arrogant and wrong of (AHPETC chairman) Ms Sylvia Lim to make a political attack on NEA officers for simply doing their duty and for protecting the hawkers. I ask AHPETC to cooperate with NEA, consult closely with the hawkers and fulfill its obligations."
On Friday, Ms Lim had said the NEA was "politically motivated" to tarnish her town council's image.
The dispute centres around hawkers at two Bedok markets claiming that the AHPETC told them they would have to pay extra for scaffolding to be erected for scheduled clean-ups, though they never had to previously.
In his statement, Dr Balakrishnan also called the hawkers "honest, hardworking people just trying to make a living".
There was no reason to charge them more for cleaning the ceiling, he said, and no reason to disrupt their business.
He added: "The hawkers have been consistent and truthful throughout this entire episode. Either (AHPETC vice-chairman) Mr Pritam Singh or the hawkers are telling the truth. It is obvious that the hawkers are speaking the truth."
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Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
Who is Vivian to describe the Hawkers? Who knows best? Pffff....
Who is Vivian to describe the Hawkers? Who knows best? Pffff....
GMS, must be secretly paid a perm sec salary to attack WP
Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
Wonder what sort of data/info he has, to make such sweeping statements. Quite dumb, really - vouching for all and sundry with sweeping statements like the ones he is making. Or he thinks he is being smart.
Wonder what sort of data/info he has, to make such sweeping statements. Quite dumb, really - vouching for all and sundry with sweeping statements like the ones he is making. Or he thinks he is being smart.
Come to think of it,,,its good that GMS lost the election. If he got in,,,,I think Tampines will be in the dumps and even worse, he will use all his time to attack WP. This insect has a misplaced ego and has shit for brains hence Mr Got More Shit. I do hope NSP do not accept him back,,right now NSP is towing the middle ground..they might do well if they win a GRC.
Also one reason he lost in Tampines, was NSP was no sight and no sound in Tampines. They never do the rounds etc..NS in Marine Parade did more there than GMS in Tampines. Good to get rid of shit.
Also one reason he lost in Tampines, was NSP was no sight and no sound in Tampines. They never do the rounds etc..NS in Marine Parade did more there than GMS in Tampines. Good to get rid of shit.
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Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
So Vivian is trying to say that AHPE Town Council staff who are only working in a job and not WP members:
1. are not doing their duty or fulfilling their obligations
2. do not care about the public or hawkers
3. do not deserve cooperation
4. are not honest or hardworking
If the TC is unprofessional because they tend to score political points, what he said should apply to all PAP town councils and he should close down all PAP TCs.
Vivian clearly owes an apology to all staff of AHPE TC, including the coffee ladies and cleaners.
So Vivian is trying to say that AHPE Town Council staff who are only working in a job and not WP members:
1. are not doing their duty or fulfilling their obligations
2. do not care about the public or hawkers
3. do not deserve cooperation
4. are not honest or hardworking
If the TC is unprofessional because they tend to score political points, what he said should apply to all PAP town councils and he should close down all PAP TCs.
Vivian clearly owes an apology to all staff of AHPE TC, including the coffee ladies and cleaners.
Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
Town Councils in Singapore are a joke. Only large countries like the UK need town councils.
Town Councils in Singapore are a joke. Only large countries like the UK need town councils.
Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
Somebody said before that they will be busy "fixing" Opposition MPs right?
Somebody said before that they will be busy "fixing" Opposition MPs right?
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Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
spot on! the hawkers are just ordinary folks earning a honest living.
spot on! the hawkers are just ordinary folks earning a honest living.
This is irrefutable proof that singapore should stay the one-party rule.
Two innocent lives have ended prematurely because of all this bickering with WP.
Two innocent lives have ended prematurely because of all this bickering with WP.
Re: Now, Vivian attacks Sylvia
I be fair in this case I agree with the Amphibian that is outburst on 'Area cleaning' to be paid by whom and who is responsible to do i is totally necessary.
WP obviously thought that this incident could be used to score political points but it back fired..
WP is totally incompetent, childish and definitely petty of the type of pattern shown by those typical chow kuan Sinkie.
Loh need to slap himself on hi face and kick the asses of those in his charge that messed up this incident.
I be fair in this case I agree with the Amphibian that is outburst on 'Area cleaning' to be paid by whom and who is responsible to do i is totally necessary.
WP obviously thought that this incident could be used to score political points but it back fired..
WP is totally incompetent, childish and definitely petty of the type of pattern shown by those typical chow kuan Sinkie.
Loh need to slap himself on hi face and kick the asses of those in his charge that messed up this incident.
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