Dead soldier issue - 4th installation of BS

[steffychun]

Only Bullshit is Winnie flogging a dead horse.

 

[borom]

I guess its how many people need to die before things will change -so far 8 in SGH, 2 in Pasir Ris MRT and many many already in SAF and the 70% still voted the way they did.

 

[Leongsam]

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"There is a saying, 'When you don't train and sweat, you will spill blood in real operations'," he said.

He added: "Can you get a level of proficiency if servicemen think they are not protected during training?"

This has been my point exactly since day one of this debate. It's inspiring to see that great minds like Dr Ng agree with my take on the matter.

It gives me reason and strength to keep going when it comes to defending the PAP in this forum.

 

[tanakow]

Security forces need protection from civil suits: Eng Hen

"Do you want to give our security forces the confidence that when they do their job, and when they do it without recklessness or negligence, that the Government Proceedings Act protects them?" he asked.

Are the WP MPs going to take up that challenge?

Why is the GPA protecting them even when they did it recklessly and negligencely?

 

[tanakow]

Security forces need protection from civil suits: Eng Hen


Citing a hypothetical example of servicemen being tasked to patrol Jurong Island and spotting a significant threat, Dr Ng said: "Do they stop the person, or will they hold back, thinking, 'If I make the wrong decision, then I'm on my own?'

Even if the servicemen are trigger happy, they should also be protected? If the Government is worried that the threat of litigation may hold them back from making appropriate decision, the Government can always underwrite the damage as a result of any court case.

 

[Leongsam]

Is Dr Ng implying that even if they servicemen are trigger happy, they should also be protected?

There are already laws to deal with uniformed personnel who do not follow the rules.

Most sinkies seem to forget that at some point in their lives they may have to make a decision regarding whether or not to pull a trigger. The last thing they need is the threat of a civil law suit.

For example, when performing guard duty with live rounds, should a situation arise whereby an intruder who has been challenged according the the SOP has not complied with orders, what is the soldier doing guard duty supposed to do? Pull the trigger to protect the installation from what could be a major sabotage attempt that could cost the lives of hundreds or simply allow the intruder to escape to avoid a possible law suit.

After all the so called saboteur who looks like a muslim terrorist could actually be a poor sinkie Malay chap who escaped from IMH and was trying to find his way home.

 

[steffychun]

There are already laws to deal with uniformed personnel who do not follow the rules.

Most sinkies seem to forget that at some point in their lives they may have to make a decision regarding whether or not to pull a trigger. The last thing they need is the threat of a civil law suit.

For example, when performing guard duty with live rounds, should a situation arise whereby an intruder who has been challenged according the the SOP has not complied with orders, what is the soldier doing guard duty supposed to do? Pull the trigger to protect the installation from what could be a major sabotage attempt that could cost the lives of hundreds or simply allow the intruder to escape to avoid a possible law suit.

After all the so called saboteur who looks like a muslim terrorist could actually be a poor sinkie Malay chap who escaped from IMH and was trying to find his way home.

Boss I believe NZ soldiers, despite the lousy equipment and peacenik stance of their government, don't cry mama if 6 smoke grenades cause them to die.

 

[Leongsam]

Boss I believe NZ soldiers, despite the lousy equipment and peacenik stance of their government, don't cry mama if 6 smoke grenades cause them to die.

NZ soldiers serve in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many have died there. It's goes with the territory.