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Committee of Inquiry: 100 armed police ran away when faced with 25 rioters

laksaboy

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I agree with the COI. The 100 police should just gunned down the 25 rioters and the remaining 20,000 workers will run back to their dormitories and hide under their beds, shaking in fears.

Killing a few drunkard Indian workers trying to burn police cars and ambulances is definitely justifiable.

You cannot suka suka kill the Ah Nehs... Indian embassy not happy and cut the supply of highly talented Ah Neh PMETs to Singapore, then how? :wink:
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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The elite PTU of the Singapore Police Force was formed with two main roles: to keep public order, and maintain public security.

Perhaps the most visible and recognisable ambassador of the PTU is the Anti-Riot vehicle, or more colloquially known as the ‘Ang Qia’ (Hokkien for Red car).

Along with the Water Cannon, the two huge Ang Qias are impossible to miss, and they signal that the elite PTU officers are around, somewhere.

In contrast to the other elusive elite units of the Singapore Police Force, the PTU is highly visible, and with a cause too.

The 1950 Maria Hertogh riots took the lives of 18 people with more than 170 others injured.

It was quickly realised that a contingent tactical force was sorely needed to tackle dangerous and volatile situations, prompting the birth of the Singapore Riot Squad in 1953.

By 1980, the Singapore Riot Squad was renamed the Police Tactical Force.

In 2003, the Police Tactical Force underwent an enhancement of capabilities to become the Police Tactical Unit (PTU), Singapore’s sentries of public order and public security in response to the growing terror threat.

This was in preparation of Singapore hosting major world events such as the World Bank meetings in 2006, ASEAN Summit in 2007 and 2009 Singapore Grand Prix.

As such, one can often see PTU officers in dark-coloured gear equipped with their MP5, patrolling crowded areas.

“Quite a few times, tourists will be very alarmed and ask if something is going to happen. In other countries, only when something happens, then they will see the police officers on the ground patrolling,” said Deputy Superintendent (Dy Supt) Lim, 33.

“But we take a more pro-active stance; we want to be there before anything happens… hence we are always on standby so that we are ready to respond immediately.”

During major festive seasons, one can also catch the PTU officers in action.

“Our job is to disperse crowds, and most importantly, ensure that everyone gets home safely,” said Dy Supt Lim.

“Whatever we do to protestors, for example the use of smoke grenades, we have tried it on ourselves… so that after we’ve used it, we know that they are still safe. It also helps us to gauge their reaction, and react better.”

While the officers’ sophisticated gear and weaponry play their roles in deterring security threats, the PTU’s greatest weapons are the officers themselves.

Donning gear that weighs at least 10 kg, it takes more just than strength to perform their duties to their best.

True to their commitment to being more than physically fit to carry out all their duties, their training schedule includes serious fitness trainings, orderly drills to instil public order, and fire-arms practise.

Serious fitness trainings include marathon and interval training, and running up and down 10 flights of stairs multiple times, in their full combat gear which can weigh beyond 10 kg.

“We cannot discount the possibility of say, running up the stairs of Pan Pacific hotel for example, to do our work… so we have to run up (for trainings)! Sometimes, using the lift isn’t an option for us,” said Dy Supt Lim.

“But physical trainings can be too serious… so sometimes we also do sports such as basketball and badminton, which also gels the team together atop our fitness goals.”

“While there is no public order incident reported in the media, we don’t take it for granted. We train very hard… We are ready once anything happens,” said Dy Supt Lim.


lol lol lol lol :rolleyes:



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@rmadill0

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You cannot suka suka kill the Ah Nehs... Indian embassy not happy and cut the supply of highly talented Ah Neh PMETs to Singapore, then how? :wink:

Better right? Most of them are frauds. Certs also buy from where.

Anyway, isn't this what the COI is saying? Police going soft. Should just shoot on a few of them that night. 100 vs 25 = 4-to-1 certainly can engage if based on army's rule of thumb.
 

BuiKia

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Army rule of engagement is to kill. 1 on 1 also can go.

Police is to ease the violence, technically it is much harder to do if you do not want to harm the rioters.

Better right? Most of them are frauds. Certs also buy from where.

Anyway, isn't this what the COI is saying? Police going soft. Should just shoot on a few of them that night. 100 vs 25 = 4-to-1 certainly can engage if based on army's rule of thumb.
 

ZorrorroZ

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Army rule of engagement is to kill. 1 on 1 also can go.

Police is to ease the violence, technically it is much harder to do if you do not want to harm the rioters.


not really all that difficult...
a couple of smoke bombs, and a flash bang or two.. sure the rioters stunned for a while, and then move in with tasers and handcuffs.

If crowd unruly - water cannon.

What's so difficult for "low crime does not mean no crime" Force?
 

tanwahtiu

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All the ang chia training goes to nothing, jiak leow bee mata.

They could have done better, a debrief is required from their incompetent PM LHL?


The Straits Times
Monday, Feb 24, 2014

The police were accused of "poor judgment" yesterday, with the Committee of Inquiry (COI) saying the Little India rioters "had full freedom to do what they wanted".

Committee chairman G. Pannir Selvam told Deputy Commissioner of Police T. Raja Kumar - the Acting Commissioner on Dec8 - that police strategy, coordination and action that night had been found wanting.

A decision was made by Deputy Assistant Commissioner (DAC) Lu Yeow Lim, commander of Tanglin Police Division, for officers stationed at roads around the scene to "hold the ground" and contain the rioters until Special Operations Command (SOC) troops arrived.
But Mr Selvam said this gave the mob "a good protected area" where they could destroy government property with impunity. The former Supreme Court judge also pointed out that there were over 100 police officers along Race Course Road that night and only about 25 active rioters.

On the night of the riot, it took 12 minutes to approve the ground commander's request for the specialist troops to be activated. The first troop then took another 38 minutes to arrive at the scene due to traffic congestion.
Mr Raja Kumar also noted that officers had difficulty communicating with base using their radios while phone lines were jammed with members of the public calling with information.


Mr Raja Kumar emphasised that the first officers to reach the scene were not trained to deal with large-scale riots. While all officers were armed, they chose not to respond with force - despite being pelted with projectiles - as it was not felt to be a life-threatening situation.

http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/olice-quizzed-about-decision-hold-ground

This is plain amateurish.
 

laksaboy

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Army rule of engagement is to kill. 1 on 1 also can go.

Police is to ease the violence, technically it is much harder to do if you do not want to harm the rioters.

I never knew water cannons or tear gas could be so deadly when used. :rolleyes:


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Jah_rastafar_I

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why sinkie riot police training so garang but faced with real situation so lousy even riot shield also hold upside down.
 

GoldenDragon

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why sinkie riot police training so garang but faced with real situation so lousy even riot shield also hold upside down.

Proves one thing - real thing is so different. All the training and exercises count for nothing. In non-crisis time just to look good and pat each other on the back.
 

oratedar

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Proves one thing - real thing is so different. All the training and exercises count for nothing. In non-crisis time just to look good and pat each other on the back.

not to forget the countless rehearsals to get the 100% orchestrated show right before the big day.
 

blindswordsman

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FTFirst Policy

PAP's precious FT's, be careful and act with restraint.

Sinkie, just whack first.

The ah neh rioter was charged and dealt with for refusing police order to disperse when he was caught throwing projectiles at the scene of the rioting. Why was he let off lightly when he was clearly an active rioter? Throwing projectiles at scene of a riot can hardly be deemed as refusing order to disperse. Clearly, the sentence did look funny in this case.
 

blindswordsman

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why sinkie riot police training so garang but faced with real situation so lousy even riot shield also hold upside down.

The top guys in the SPF should be disciplined for their poor command of the SPF. They should be sacked. They were not combat ready on that night of the riot. Luckily, the riot was in one area. If it had occurred simultaneously over all Little India, SG would have been burnt to the ground.
 

melzp

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Excuses:
1. having PEACE for last 50 yrs
2. the experienced ones are in 60s n 70s
3. oversea trainings===they are only in peace loving/keeping forces, n disasters missions

clearly, its bad decisive leaders
 

AhMeng

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At the end of the day....the police will become the scapegoats for the millionaire PAP politicians...the fact remains that IT IS PAP WHO OVERPOPULATED THIS TINY ISLAND WITH SO MANY FOREIGN TRASH.
 

cowbellc

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"Mr Raja Kumar also noted that officers had difficulty communicating with base using their radios while phone lines were jammed with members of the public calling with information."

What the fuck does this means? Their comms were jammed and resort using handphones to relay info and orders?
 

Rogue Trader

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I used to know someone who served in the ang chia unit during NSF. He said that he was usually deployed for foreign worker drunken fights at construction sites. The standing order was usually to wait until the fights finish before moving in to arrest those "rioters".

It seems the situation was handled no differently on 8 Dec Little India riot. Maximum restraint my arse. The controllers used the "template" approach for drunken ah neh trouble makers that night - wait for the trouble to burn out then move in to round people up. Meanwhile police cars and ambulances burnt while the rioters who are truly guilty slipped away.

Real riot control and crowd dispersement (which ang chia unit has been training for) is only reserved for sinkies when Pap loses an election.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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"Mr Raja Kumar also noted that officers had difficulty communicating with base using their radios while phone lines were jammed with members of the public calling with information."

What the fuck does this means? Their comms were jammed and resort using handphones to relay info and orders?

Honestly speaking isn't the radio frequency used by the police different from the ones used by hps? It's common sense right? Otherwise walkie talkies would get jammed by hp signals and vice versa and mind you walkie talkies have different frequencies. So the security guard's walkie talkie doesn't interfere with the police's frequency. It's common sense so what this shit skin is saying right here is plain BS.
 

laksaboy

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"Mr Raja Kumar also noted that officers had difficulty communicating with base using their radios while phone lines were jammed with members of the public calling with information."

What the fuck does this means? Their comms were jammed and resort using handphones to relay info and orders?

Radio comms set and phone lines used the same frequency bandwidth meh?

Want to smoke the public? You gotta try harder than that.

LOL! :rolleyes: :kma:
 
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